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I think we have a winner.
So what you're telling me is that HvV is a bit too difficult because the other players are heroes as well, and you prefer to go up against troopers?
I'm not going to toot my own horn about my elite gamer skills, so you can ask my friends whether I was good at 2015front or not.
And I still can't tell what this has to do with my thread. You have yet to make an argument against trooper content for this game.
I never said it was herofront, it IS however called STAR WARS Battlefront II.
Emphasis placed properly on the main title. If there was such an overwhelmingly large amount of “trooper only” fans out there as you falsely claim there is than why isn’t there such a huge uproar about it? I’ll remind you this game didn’t take a nose dive because it had too many heroes. In fact people were asking for MORE from day one. This game failed because people who really probably never even bought the game hopped on a hate bandwagon over “progression”.
So where are all of these people who apparently hate heroes in Star Wars games?
Lol I mean the “remove HvV target system” got WAY more agrees and likes in a short period of time than this post has gotten.
This is where your argument dies. Guy would wipe the floor with you.
It's okay, Abyss. You're a casual player. There's no shame in admitting it. You're one of many in the playerbase. Admittedly, I have no problem with casual players. I loved destroying you guys on BF15 and BF17.
What's annoying is how you're trying to deny players infantry-only options. Every AAA FPS has them. You don't see me advocating for the removal of HvV.
They moved onto better shooters a long time ago. This game is trying to be everything for everyone, so it is mostly failing at everything.
Pirate of the Knights of Gareth
That’s a fun excuse. “They moved on”.
Then why bring it up like there’s a huge support group? That’s a failed argument.
Maybe we aren't as noisy as you lot are. Good thing I spoke up.
And it's not about hating heroes. It's about rounding out the content. You guys got 4 new heroes. Time for something else. Perhaps people aren't so hot about the trooper content because it's getting stale? Sounds like a good time to bring it back to life if you ask me.
Wrong. @Relmets was one of the top players on PS4.
@Relmets uses the powah of the Kwattro to absquatulate any and all members of the other team without mercy.
Pirate of the Knights of Gareth
Sounds to me like there’s not much support behind your claims.
His only Star Busters 2015 video because of people like him
Please do not glorify this psychopath
Officer of The Knights of Gareth
Relmets taking down a game ruiner rogenbuster style?
We need a link.
Pirate of the Knights of Gareth
Why can't infantry fans get infantry-only content? What's the issue with it? Why can't we get some enjoyment? Infantry players don't spam the forums with requests to delete HvV.
lol, you his cheer leader or something? lmao, I'd really like to see that happen. HvV is a joke as well, nobody would ever flawless me on skill alone unless I had numb skulls on my team or you all just ganked 3 on 1. Pathetic, the modes a joke and pretty much dependent on your team. We'd just trade kills over and over again as I lost HP. On Hero showdown it'd be entirely dependent on what Hero I play, it's a joke. Why would I ever bother with that trash.
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
Give me new content. I don't really care what it is. But here's my list:
1. GA maps
2. Heroes Unleashed separate permanent mode
2. Cargo (trooper only)
3. Heroes
4. Skins
5. Weapons
6. Star cards
Some of the finest excuses.
and what would that make you, Banana, a part timer? Something clearly lower because I'm far from casual, lmao. At least I can realize what takes skill and what doesn't, and the trooper play her clearly does not. It doesn't deserve any peripheral attention outside of a major overhaul. The removal of Jetpack, Bacta, traits, builds, the addition of haphazard classes, even the removal of public death counter only served to dumb this game down so casuals could have more fun on it.
You wan't infantry only, go play blast. lol, I'd advocate for the removal of HvV, Ha. That's like you trying to equate the removing cancer as some weak cop-out to the argument. Give me a break.
Don't blame your teammates for being a bad player. One of my friends had to try carrying you on HvV. You didn't even make the top 5.
Anyways
@SAmulticore 's cargo thread. 22 pages of overwhelming support for infantry only cargo. Take that how you will.
And I'm not sure what your suggestion is if you don't like my ideas. Neglect trooper players for another year? In favor of more heroes?
I'm just curious
@Mastahpeece marky boy had it coming
After seeing that screenshot, I'm not surprised you're on-board with removing HvV. You couldn't even make the top 5! Tough scene to say the least.
Nothing else to say, i support OP, we need more content dedicated to troopers.
bahahaha.
Just for comparison's sake I had a 5 K/D in BF2015, and IIRC relmets made me look bad almost every game we played
The illusion of choice might work for a few days, but once you are bored of switching weapons with no real change, you'll feel again that we only have 4 real choices for each class.
If they tweak the stats, that would be a lot faster than them adding 24 weapons from scratch.
Pirate of the Knights of Gareth
Oh but it is... because those of us who actually put in the time and effort to learn the hero modes know better than to take someone seriously who says heroes are simply R2 R2 R2 R2, or "all stuns and CC". That's a simplistic cop-out that says more about the person making the argument than it does about the game.
Yes it has some issues, and saber tracking's current over-enthusiasm is certainly one of them but, other than Greebus, if someone thinks they can consistently beat an experienced player by mashing the attack button hasn't actually encountered one.....and if you die to Greebus mashing, that means you let him get close to you and didn't have an escape plan or reliable teammates to back you up and punish him for overextending.
Granted, we all die sometimes, but mad mashers run out of stamina and die, or get rolled all over on by the likes of Lando, Han, and Iden.
I'm not saying I'm awesome. I lose and get beat up like everybody....but you can see here that someone with a plan and tenacity can take on multiple heroes and make it out alive. Granted ledges help, but I've 1 v 2'd plenty of Kylos, Mauls, and Vaders and lived to tell about it. I have other videos that don't involve ledges, but I'm working on making some compilations because I don't want to flood my channel with little 30 second fight videos.
In short, git gud.
^Maximum the Hormone - Alien^
(Sorta like an insane Japanese SOAD, but w/ 3 vocalists and slap bass)
Gamertag: Billkwando PSN: Billkwando YouTube: Billkwando
Find me in HvV, pushing people off of stuff and watching them fall, like a cat.
@AbyssWatch3r who hurt you? Do you need me to call your parents?
If you'd actually take a look at the thread instead of jumping on the opportunity to sound condescending you'll see that the point I'm making is that reducing trooper combat to skill-less "rushing" or grenade spam is akin to reducing hero combat to R2 mashing or stun spam.
P.S. Stun based gameplay is still garbage
Just an idea. Instead of literal copies they could just copypasta the stats of some unused blasters from the last game.
For instance all of the Assault defaults are currently the BF2015 E-11. Leave the E-11 as is, but make the 280c similar to the 280c from that game (not burst fire, just a faster firing but lower damage per shot automatic). A180 rifle mode could serve as another template for lets say the clown rifle (DCwhatever) or the not-rebels' standard EL-16. Then make the F-11 an E-11 with different spread/recoil pattern (kind of how they differentiate same ROF guns in Battlefield games) and the robot blaster could be another modified stat variant of a 280c
Same goes for heavy, specialist and officer. Plenty of repeaters, snipers and pistols to use the stats of or tweak a bit.
You guys really are too nice
And @Admiral_Xen too modest
-But just to clarify @TheScape I think adding them as is, without any changes, while maybe a little underwhelming, wouldn't do any harm either. Some people use weapons solely based on aesthetic reasons (I know I do), and being able to use a particular default outside of the corresponding faction seems like a no brainer (it's even depicted heavily in the official game artwork). For instance I love the look and sound of the E-11, and I'd like to use it more often. Even if it's identical to the other defaults in the way it behaves.
And regardless if the benefit is marginal, the cost is negligible. How much effort can it take to rearrange the availability of weapons that are already made and in the game?
Officer of The Knights of Gareth
Good idea... and to add to this, as far as mods go, they could all have different combos of three existing mods to further distinguish them. One assualt weapon might have a dual scope, another might have ion shot.
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That's fine, and I don't have an issue with them adding more trooper content, but being good with troopers and being good with heroes isn't the same thing, and I get tired of people who seemingly don't know what they're talking about slagging off on HvV and heroes in general.
Yeah HvV is no Street Fighter II, but within the context of what it is (weaksauce Soul Caliber, basically) there is a skilled game to be had. That's all I really mean.
^Maximum the Hormone - Alien^
(Sorta like an insane Japanese SOAD, but w/ 3 vocalists and slap bass)
Gamertag: Billkwando PSN: Billkwando YouTube: Billkwando
Find me in HvV, pushing people off of stuff and watching them fall, like a cat.
This thread is all over the place. Sorry if I misunderstood your point.
^Maximum the Hormone - Alien^
(Sorta like an insane Japanese SOAD, but w/ 3 vocalists and slap bass)
Gamertag: Billkwando PSN: Billkwando YouTube: Billkwando
Find me in HvV, pushing people off of stuff and watching them fall, like a cat.
Good man. Troops rise up
@Mastahpeece he was playing on an account called Not_Markiplier69. He is a liar and a deceiver
This is true. I was mainly a GA player pretty good toped the leaderboard & I started playing HvV a lot & got my butt handed to me. It's easy to destroy infantry with heros but do you have the skill to take down another hero? I most certainly didn't.
No apologies required, this is a certain someone's fault for crapping up the thread with all of that nonsense in the first place. I'm personally not a huge fan of heroes but I can understand and appreciate that there are skilled hero players just like there are skilled trooper players. All I'm trying to say is that if the focus of 2019 is another four heroes troops will get shafted again.
And it's like @BucksawBoushh said anyway, none of us should be having this conversation because they should have been able to deliver on all aspects of the game as far as the additional content drops go. But instead we're going back and forth with each other about what scraps of content we'd like to see because we're all expecting another underwhelming year.
As an aside, I did find this to be a strange statement. So you really watched the movies for the stormtroopers and the guys with bedpans on their heads?
^Maximum the Hormone - Alien^
(Sorta like an insane Japanese SOAD, but w/ 3 vocalists and slap bass)
Gamertag: Billkwando PSN: Billkwando YouTube: Billkwando
Find me in HvV, pushing people off of stuff and watching them fall, like a cat.
That is 100% spot on. Either the dev team can't walk and chew gum at the same time, or they just don't have the budget for gum.
^Maximum the Hormone - Alien^
(Sorta like an insane Japanese SOAD, but w/ 3 vocalists and slap bass)
Gamertag: Billkwando PSN: Billkwando YouTube: Billkwando
Find me in HvV, pushing people off of stuff and watching them fall, like a cat.
I’ve always been much more intrigued by the random dude that looks like the Devil in the back of the cantina than any main character. Star Wars isn’t just Luke, Han, Obi, Maul or Rey. Every single fringe character has a backstory just as interesting as the mains. Broken record here, but to me, that’s why Star Wars is so amazing. How did this droid end up as a server in Jabba’s Palace? Guarantee you there’s a story behind it.
Certainly good MMO material, but of course the real answer is "Cos George Lucas wanted it".
^Maximum the Hormone - Alien^
(Sorta like an insane Japanese SOAD, but w/ 3 vocalists and slap bass)
Gamertag: Billkwando PSN: Billkwando YouTube: Billkwando
Find me in HvV, pushing people off of stuff and watching them fall, like a cat.
Momaw Nadon > Luke Skywalker