criterion-sm dice-lg ea-starwars-lg instagram lucasfilm-lg motive-lg twitch you-tube
August Community Calendar
Battle Point Event Heroes Unleashed

Heroes are no longer the priority. Add content for troopers.

1356734

Replies

  • Relmets
    2222 posts Member
    T21, EE3, DL44, DT12- SE-14C, DL18, T21-B, Dioxis, Bacta, Cycler rifle, more options DICE

    The powerful T21 in Battlefront II, the dream

    Witness the untapped potential of the starblasters arsenal

    Dual pistols ? Just throwing it in to the void

    I'm all for dual wielding friend
    [+3748 posts]
  • TheElGuapo007
    16 posts Member
    edited January 9
    1- new weapons.
    - smoke bombs
    - guns on a swivel with shields that can be placed anywhere
    - 50-75% off rocket troops permanently
    2 - port in Endor, or both Endor levels from BF1. Both were a ton of fun and have fighting in the trees.
    - add them to GA/Ewok hunt/Blast.
    - add the current Endor level to Ewok hunt. Turn off all lights and power in the bases.
    - The Ewoks can power down the lights as an objective.
    3 - after 30-60 days replace the port in’s with another level from BF1

  • Can't speak for others (though I've seen many people saying similar to my own opinion), but as much as GA, extraction and more is fun and all, I keep coming back day to day for heroes, to play grievous and kenobi, two of my favorite characters. Maps definitely need to come faster than last year, but don't stop making heroes.
    Top favorite heroes and villains missing:
    Ahsoka, Rex, Padme, Cody, Mace
    Bane, Thrawn, Ventress, Jango, Savage
    0np8u7zs8tne.gif
  • MagicalMuffinDruide
    1456 posts Member
    edited January 9
    Billkwando wrote: »
    Billkwando wrote: »
    I do not play this game for heroes and I never watched the movies for the heroes, its all about the Infantry for me.

    As an aside, I did find this to be a strange statement. So you really watched the movies for the stormtroopers and the guys with bedpans on their heads? ;) :p

    I’ve always been much more intrigued by the random dude that looks like the Devil in the back of the cantina than any main character. Star Wars isn’t just Luke, Han, Obi, Maul or Rey. Every single fringe character has a backstory just as interesting as the mains. Broken record here, but to me, that’s why Star Wars is so amazing. How did this droid end up as a server in Jabba’s Palace? Guarantee you there’s a story behind it.

    Certainly good MMO material, but of course the real answer is "Cos George Lucas wanted it". ;)

    Momaw Nadon > Luke Skywalker

    46i9phnwvb9w.gif

    y2slcqek1vcp.gif
    Top favorite heroes and villains missing:
    Ahsoka, Rex, Padme, Cody, Mace
    Bane, Thrawn, Ventress, Jango, Savage
    0np8u7zs8tne.gif
  • MagicalMuffinDruide
    1456 posts Member
    edited January 9
    ^ RAWR RAWR!

    Toxicity at its finest. Nothing to see here.


    qt4hxs7bkr3s.gif

    Weeeeee
    Top favorite heroes and villains missing:
    Ahsoka, Rex, Padme, Cody, Mace
    Bane, Thrawn, Ventress, Jango, Savage
    0np8u7zs8tne.gif
  • AbyssWatch3r
    4974 posts Member
    edited January 10
    Devlin21 wrote: »
    @AbyssWatch3r my friend @Relmets would absquatulate you to the quintessential regions with his PS kwattro rogenbusters.

    lol, I've wen't up against you as well 'devastator', your nothing special either pal, and if your even half as good as your buddy here I don't think I'd have much trouble with him as well. Let's not start with the jokes tonight and the googled fancy words.

    This is how you teach scrubs:
    xnvLDB.gif
  • Relmets wrote: »
    lol what aspect about playing a hero is even remotely interesting compared to playing a trooper? Lame. More trash broken abilities and a couple more sloppy overpriced hero skins over the T-21? DT-12? Yeah, sorry but on paper that's a total joke.

    You probably think troopers are boring because you get rekt all the time while playing as them and blame the gameplay instead of your own skill, trust me I see this complex all the time. Hero gameplay would need a MASSIVE overhaul, and I'm talking something like a redesign where heroes have specific skillsets beyond CC, and gameplay involved more complex tactics than playing "GOTCHA!" with stuns, or mashing buttons. In short, hero gameplay isn't worth it.


    When I can take your "argument," rearrange a few words, and turn it completely against you, it means your "argument" carries absolutely no weight at all.

    "uhm herores are more fun than troopers to me" is not an argument
    "haha i bet you get rekt all the time" is not an argument

    if you want to delete your post and save a little face, feel free to message me and I'll remove this

    lmao, your honesty just embarrassing yourself with this. A ported over weapon from the last game is suddenly on the same level as getting Jango Fett? Yeah, you may wan't to think that one through. They rest of that delusion isn't even worth addressing. As if all Heroes do is just cast CC, lmao. I don't play that trash scrub mode HvV. I can actually get a hero in the first 3 mins of a GA. Nothing but CC? lmao, give me a break. If your caught mind tricking as rey or trying to get off a stun on troopers your losing massive HP 9/10s it's the reason you rarely see a good maul choking because he's most vulnerable at that point, anybody with skill knows that. Most of the CC cast is in HvV. irrelevant.

    Turn my argument against me? Ha. Don't make me laugh.

    What makes HvV scrub mode?

    Because the hot shot is probably terrible at it.

    Oh, now you're a fan boy?
  • Back to the matter at hand, Heroes are the only thing interesting about this game. They've destroyed the infantry play since beta. The removal of personal builds/customization was probably the single most catastrophic change they did, and it's irrecoverable outside of a major overhaul, which isn't going to happen. Putting new Heroes on the back burner for one of the worse elements of the game is just a bad idea, flat out.
    This is how you teach scrubs:
    xnvLDB.gif
  • I don’t really understand this debate. I love hero gameplay. HU is the best mode to date. That being said, I’d also like some more trooper content, and a no-hero GA. At least a weekend event. Let’s be clear here. The problem isn’t us. It isn’t who’s preferred gameplay choice is better or deserves more attention. Just like a couple have pointed out, this issue is the overall drip feed of content has us now at each other’s throats, afraid that whatever effort the developers might make will be for mode we enjoy less. So we pounce on others who lobby for modes we care less about. The simple truth is as we all know. The grand scope of this game doesn’t have nearly enough technical support to go with it. Like I said, I love Heroes, but some quality trooper content added to this game would be welcomed. It really hasn’t had much of any. Nothing really has. I say this while there’s still been no mention of Mace Windu from Dice.
  • Raices
    1200 posts Member
    edited January 10
    Is there another game out there for PS4(Lego doesn't count) where i can play as Vader, Mace, Yoda, Jango?......yeah, that's why people are requesting more heroes. There are plenty of games atm to satisfy infantry players. However, this game needs to be fixed first.
    Post edited by Raices on
  • Nothing is more synonymous with Star Wars to me than the Rebel Heavy. The First Order Specialist does give it a run for its money. Then there are the Jet Troopers... Playing them is like being in the movie.
    21 years in the making... the wait is over. Buy RESIDENT EVIL 2 now!
    headerjpgt1547513853
  • AbyssWatch3r
    4974 posts Member
    edited January 10

    Just take the L, dude. You aren't getting out of this by pretending it wasn't you.

    I'm afraid not, Banana. First of all, I seldom if ever play HvV, and if I do I'm always top 5 and the same can generally be said in GA, I don't get wrekt unless I'm playing solo against a full team and I'm stuck with the scrubs, and even then I'll still take MVP, so it's a win in my book.
    2nd, you can even ask @Rivershark56 and even, dare I say it, @dash. That's not my account, nice try though on getting your little zinger in. It was a valiant effort, but a failed attempt. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    Battlefront II is not a competitive title, an infantry focus isn't going to magically change that or make the game better, again, outside of fundamental overhaul. Which is not happening in a remotely timely manner.
    This is how you teach scrubs:
    xnvLDB.gif
  • I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer

    And you call what we have now any better? everybody still running the exact same build except now it's near universal with nearly 0 diversity. Yes, knock the jet pack bacta guard combat all you wan't. It still took more skill to pull off than anything this games trooper play has to offer. All that's changed is the ttk has dramatically increased and a lot of counterplay has been removed. I'm sorry, but 2015 had better trooper play than this game hands down without a doubt. If that was like using a printer then BF2017 is like hammering a nail, and many scrubs here fail at even that.
    This is how you teach scrubs:
    xnvLDB.gif
  • Relmets wrote: »
    Empire_TW wrote: »
    Relmets wrote: »
    WodiQuix wrote: »
    lerodemmy wrote: »
    No, please don't do this. Heroes are Star Wars. Heroes should ALWAYS be the priority.

    Not always. There are other things in this game, too, and in Star Wars. I understand that Hero combat and other things are broken, but Troopers deserve some love, too! Don't get me wrong, I love our hero characters in the movies and books, but this game isn't meant to be entirely about them.

    And specifically with battlefront. Battlefront has always been about taking the spotlight and putting it on the unsung heroes: side characters, troopers, pilots, all the little things apart from the most popular and famous icons.
    Our beloved franchise has been hijacked by the herolords.

    Heroes have been a significant part of Battlefront since BF2 2005, it was a major selling point of that game and Heroes have been a significant part of battlefront since.

    It is not hero players who have hijacked this game, it is the Clone Wars fans who need every single character from that show to be in this game in the form of hero.

    Heroes in 2005 were not the same if you ask me. Short lived units that blitzed the enemy to make a sudden shift in the battle. They were never the focus of gameplay, troopers were much more in depth.
    lol what aspect about playing a trooper is even remotely interesting compared to playing a hero? Lame. More trash weapons and a couple more sloppy overpriced trooper skins over Jango Fett? Yeah, sorry but on paper that's a total joke.

    You probably think Heroes ruin the game because you get wrekt by them all the time and blame them instead of your own skill, trust me I see this complex all the time. Trooper gameplay would need a MASSIVE overhaul, and I'm talking something like a BF3/BF4 overlay redesign where it's first person and playing a role actually mattered instead of death matching or just rushing the objective. In short, not going to happen.

    Quiet down, casual. You're terrible at infantry modes. We get it. I'm sorry you're such a bad player. That doesn't mean other players shouldn't have true infantry-only options. It's a staple in FPS games. I don't see infantry players calling to remove HvV.

    You have plenty of game modes for casual button-mashing lightsaber play. There's no reason we can't have a legitimate infantry-only option as all AAA FPS games do.

    Your probably couldn't even hold a candle to me, banana. Lmao. Your trooper play in this game is trash and takes no skill. Going 73-0 in this game as a mere trooper is pretty much impossible compared to the last game, and gee I wonder why. Oh yeah, that's the dumbing down of nearly everything into a predesigned package where even the worst scrub can get a multi-kill simply by throwing a grenade at his feet.

    The only real skill here is who get's the Hero first and goes on the longest kill streak to carry the rest of the team before dying to a shotgun or some other bull. Give me a break.

    Imagine unironically thinking beating up grunts as a hero requires more skill than facing other players on a more level playing field. I'm starting to doubt your sincerity.

    Quite the opposite in my experiance, the only short lived part of them was that they were on a timer however that was easy to refill, I'm willing to go as far as saying Maul's dash attack in old BF2 was better than Maul as a whole in this game. Yeah most of the heroes were carbon copies of each other but that is mostly because old BF2 was made mostly to cash in on Revenge of the Sith. Heroes were one of the only major new features of that game was a significant selling point of it. Like it or not Heroes (not only in the EA era) are a signifcant part of battlefront.
    bfloo wrote: »
    Empire_TW wrote: »
    Relmets wrote: »
    WodiQuix wrote: »
    lerodemmy wrote: »
    No, please don't do this. Heroes are Star Wars. Heroes should ALWAYS be the priority.

    Not always. There are other things in this game, too, and in Star Wars. I understand that Hero combat and other things are broken, but Troopers deserve some love, too! Don't get me wrong, I love our hero characters in the movies and books, but this game isn't meant to be entirely about them.

    And specifically with battlefront. Battlefront has always been about taking the spotlight and putting it on the unsung heroes: side characters, troopers, pilots, all the little things apart from the most popular and famous icons.
    Our beloved franchise has been hijacked by the herolords.

    Heroes have been a significant part of Battlefront since BF2 2005, it was a major selling point of that game and Heroes have been a significant part of battlefront since.

    It is not hero players who have hijacked this game, it is the Clone Wars fans who need every single character from that show to be in this game in the form of hero.

    Heroes were a quick gimmick in the og bf2, at least until the modders took over. They couldn't dictate the outcome of a game with the timer.

    They were gimmicky designed but the Jedi style characters were indeed a god mode, they were agile, had powerful saber throw attacks, and could spam dash attacks. Vader and Palpatine weren't good because they were slow, Boba and Jango were just glorified jet troopers, and Leia and Han just had award pistols.
    Relmets wrote: »
    Billkwando wrote: »
    Relmets wrote: »
    "haha i bet you get rekt all the time" is not an argument

    Oh but it is... because those of us who actually put in the time and effort to learn the hero modes know better than to take someone seriously who says heroes are simply R2 R2 R2 R2, or "all stuns and CC". That's a simplistic cop-out that says more about the person making the argument than it does about the game.



    If you'd actually take a look at the thread instead of jumping on the opportunity to sound condescending you'll see that the point I'm making is that reducing trooper combat to skill-less "rushing" or grenade spam is akin to reducing hero combat to R2 mashing or stun spam.

    X12WoA1.gif

    P.S. Stun based gameplay is still garbage

    Stun based gameplay is garbage and any HvV/dedicated hero player will tell you that.

    It is as if
    The developers are neglecting and ignoring those players too.
    Janina Gavankar/Iden Versio Fan
    First Max Prestige Iden Versio
    hojevrxvarht.png
    PSN: Empire_TW. Twitter: Empire_TW. Youtube: Empire_TW.
  • BucksawBoushh
    5033 posts Member
    edited January 10
    @AbyssWatch3r

    I very much dislike you but I do agree with what you said about BF15 vs. BF2 gunplay.
    PSN: BucksawBoushh

  • After seeing this, I'm not surprised you're on-board with removing HvV. You couldn't even make the top 5! Tough scene to say the least.

    vfx74ut1ioud.png
    bkk6nuvxy5lh.png

    Wow, you sure got me there, except for the fact that isn't my handle nor would I ever be caught dead getting wrekt by the likes of you lmao or your bodyguards. At best you'd break even with me in your lobby, probably go negative. Smart for you to cover your friends account because you'd definitely be on the list of the try hards I make sure to t-bag and emote every time I kill.
    Agree OP, Infantry needs way more focus than it is getting currently. I do not play this game for heroes and I never watched the movies for the heroes, its all about the Infantry for me.
    @AbyssWatch3r who hurt you? Do you need me to call your parents?

    @UrbanGlitch who hurt me? I almost know for a fact you get wrekt by Heroes and that's the prime reason you advocate for this crazed focus on trooper only nonsense. Sorry pal, but trooper play is trash. It's way too casual for there to be any real focus on it over Heroes and new modes. Any scrub can kill anybody now simply because enough in the last game complained that everybody was running Jet pack and bacta and they we're getting lased by the ee-4/3. The class system sucks in comparison, it's dumbed down. How many times to I have to repeat this point? Playing a Hero brings some of that semblance of counter play back simply because you don't immediately die now because some kid throws a grenade at his feet just as you gun him down. That was BF2105 I'd roll with shield up, or Just Jet out and laugh, but now you just die. Lmao, clearly this is just lost on you all. Really watching you all defend it is laughable.

    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer


    xjzy15ft8uco.gif

    I beg to differ sir, you mean the heroes of bf2 I think. And yes, the skill gap was greater by miles in 15 compared to bf2.
  • Ppong_Man12
    2417 posts Member
    edited January 10
    [/quote]AbyssWatch3r wrote: »
    [I'm sorry, but 2015 had better trooper play than this game hands down without a doubt. If that was like using a printer then BF2017 is like hammering a nail, and many scrubs here fail at even that.


    By miles.
  • Yes, now we're getting somewhere. Alas, I must go know, but rest assured I will be watching how this unfolds now that most of are now following my point. The question remains though, does infantry focus really warrant completely throwing Heroes on the back burner, as per the thread title? Why? If it's going to be a half gassed fix that really won't address the core fundamental problems with infantry play then what's the point. Sure add a 20 v 20 infantry mode like turning point or something, but taking a hiatus on Heroes just for that is not warranted.
    This is how you teach scrubs:
    xnvLDB.gif
  • We should be able to have new heroes AND new blasters. I blame DICE for this divide.
    PSN: BucksawBoushh
  • We should be able to have new heroes AND new blasters. I blame DICE for this divide.

    Blame the crowd that made so much noise that put us down this path.

    Funny how Clone Wars fans hated the Han Solo season simply for existing yet that was the last time most of the player base got something at the same time.

    Infantry players got Extraction

    Hero players got Hero Showdown (not exactly liked but at least it was something).

    Both Hero and infantry players got 2 new maps to play on

    Starfighter players got a new hero ship (hardly anything but still something)
    Janina Gavankar/Iden Versio Fan
    First Max Prestige Iden Versio
    hojevrxvarht.png
    PSN: Empire_TW. Twitter: Empire_TW. Youtube: Empire_TW.
  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    Honestly, this schism between infantry players and hero players really isn't one that needs to exist.

    I think it's fairly inane, as well.

    And yes, it seems the added content isn't so much troopers vs heroes as one particular era vs everything else.

    Solo season for instance brought back Extraction. It just died out because all the maps they could've ported over to keep it fresh are from the "wrong" era.
    61tgj36mc1n9.png

    Founding member and commissar in chief of the Church of Janina. PSN: HanGerrelShot1st
  • Fun thread. As to the OP’s title, we are getting two new heroes and the long awaited conquest very soon. Seems like both camps are getting something.
  • I don’t really understand this debate. I love hero gameplay. HU is the best mode to date. That being said, I’d also like some more trooper content, and a no-hero GA. At least a weekend event. Let’s be clear here. The problem isn’t us. It isn’t who’s preferred gameplay choice is better or deserves more attention. Just like a couple have pointed out, this issue is the overall drip feed of content has us now at each other’s throats, afraid that whatever effort the developers might make will be for mode we enjoy less. So we pounce on others who lobby for modes we care less about. The simple truth is as we all know. The grand scope of this game doesn’t have nearly enough technical support to go with it. Like I said, I love Heroes, but some quality trooper content added to this game would be welcomed. It really hasn’t had much of any. Nothing really has. I say this while there’s still been no mention of Mace Windu from Dice.

    This.

    I've said more than once that this game is like 3 games in one. You have your trooper game, your hero game (which I think of like a fighting game, shooties aside) and your flying game (though SA is woefully neglected, it's still super fun and well done, for the most part). I enjoy all of them.
    ZI7BNkU.gif
    ^Maximum the Hormone - Alien^
    (Sorta like an insane Japanese SOAD, but w/ 3 vocalists and slap bass)

    Gamertag: Billkwando PSN: Billkwando YouTube: Billkwando
    Find me in HvV, pushing people off of stuff and watching them fall, like a cat.
  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    We should be able to have new heroes AND new blasters. I blame DICE for this divide.

    Blame the crowd that made so much noise that put us down this path.

    Funny how Clone Wars fans hated the Han Solo season simply for existing yet that was the last time most of the player base got something at the same time.

    Infantry players got Extraction

    Hero players got Hero Showdown (not exactly liked but at least it was something).

    Both Hero and infantry players got 2 new maps to play on

    Starfighter players got a new hero ship (hardly anything but still something)

    Doesn't extraction have enforcers though? It's fine if it does, but that doesn't fit the infantry-only mode we've requested.
    My name is Bob

  • Fun thread. As to the OP’s title, we are getting two new heroes and the long awaited conquest very soon. Seems like both camps are getting something.

    We don't know much about the supposed CQ mode. It may include a bunch of heroes
    My name is Bob

  • Fun thread. As to the OP’s title, we are getting two new heroes and the long awaited conquest very soon. Seems like both camps are getting something.

    We don't know much about the supposed CQ mode. It may include a bunch of heroes

    You know what? I think you’re right. That’s pretty much a lock.
  • Dash
    11609 posts Member
    edited January 10
    Fun thread. As to the OP’s title, we are getting two new heroes and the long awaited conquest very soon. Seems like both camps are getting something.

    We don't know much about the supposed CQ mode. It may include a bunch of heroes

    You know what? I think you’re right. That’s pretty much a lock.

    My hope is that is takes the form of the advice given by those testing it. A hybrid mode, with a higher player count preferably, heroes wouldn’t affect/dominate that mode entirely, and more trooper and multiple objectives at once oriented/focused.

    That’s what I would love to play.
    Origin ID: "NWG_Dash"

    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyUQ3FFqM-TQd-3xtZmHOGQ?view_as=subscriber
    Link to all my Guides here in Tips & Tricks: https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/113241/custom-class-hero-loadouts-builds-revisited-pt-2-6-14-2018#latest

    "When you ask for trouble, you should not be surprised when it finds you". - Plo Koon
    rjy4wg9w86wa.gif





  • Dash
    11609 posts Member
    Dash wrote: »
    Dash wrote: »

    Just take the L, dude. You aren't getting out of this by pretending it wasn't you.

    I'm afraid not, Banana. First of all, I seldom if ever play HvV, and if I do I'm always top 5 and the same can generally be said in GA, I don't get wrekt unless I'm playing solo against a full team and I'm stuck with the scrubs, and even then I'll still take MVP, so it's a win in my book.
    2nd, you can even ask @Rivershark56 and even, dare I say it, @dash. That's not my account, nice try though on getting your little zinger in. It was a valiant effort, but a failed attempt. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    Battlefront II is not a competitive title, an infantry focus isn't going to magically change that or make the game better, again, outside of fundamental overhaul. Which is not happening in a remotely timely manner.

    I have been summoned? I didn’t have time to read everything but what’s happening? @Everyone

    This thread gives me indigestion. But it's like that Trainwreck you can't stop staring at.

    Sometimes I get home from work and wonder what’s going on here. Like “Wonder what the family is up to”!? Then I see arguing. :disappointed:

    #WereAStarWarsFamily :neutral:

    True, and yet who argues better than family?

    Truth.
    Origin ID: "NWG_Dash"

    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyUQ3FFqM-TQd-3xtZmHOGQ?view_as=subscriber
    Link to all my Guides here in Tips & Tricks: https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/113241/custom-class-hero-loadouts-builds-revisited-pt-2-6-14-2018#latest

    "When you ask for trouble, you should not be surprised when it finds you". - Plo Koon
    rjy4wg9w86wa.gif





  • Darth_Vapor3
    3914 posts Member
    edited January 10
    Dash wrote: »
    Fun thread. As to the OP’s title, we are getting two new heroes and the long awaited conquest very soon. Seems like both camps are getting something.

    We don't know much about the supposed CQ mode. It may include a bunch of heroes

    You know what? I think you’re right. That’s pretty much a lock.

    My hope is that is takes the form of the advice given by those testing it. A hybrid mode, with a higher player count preferably, heroes wouldn’t affect/dominate that mode entirely, and more trooper and multiple objectives at once oriented/focused.

    That’s what I would love to play.

    Yeah. And I’m expecting an open battleground without choke point spam. That in itself will mitigate hero domination.
  • Weapon files have already been found. Just hope they release soon
  • I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer

    And you call what we have now any better? everybody still running the exact same build except now it's near universal with nearly 0 diversity. Yes, knock the jet pack bacta guard combat all you wan't. It still took more skill to pull off than anything this games trooper play has to offer. All that's changed is the ttk has dramatically increased and a lot of counterplay has been removed. I'm sorry, but 2015 had better trooper play than this game hands down without a doubt. If that was like using a printer then BF2017 is like hammering a nail, and many scrubs here fail at even that.

    After seeing this, I'm not surprised you're on-board with removing HvV. You couldn't even make the top 5! Tough scene to say the least.

    vfx74ut1ioud.png
    bkk6nuvxy5lh.png

    Wow, you sure got me there, except for the fact that isn't my handle nor would I ever be caught dead getting wrekt by the likes of you lmao or your bodyguards. At best you'd break even with me in your lobby, probably go negative. Smart for you to cover your friends account because you'd definitely be on the list of the try hards I make sure to t-bag and emote every time I kill.
    Agree OP, Infantry needs way more focus than it is getting currently. I do not play this game for heroes and I never watched the movies for the heroes, its all about the Infantry for me.
    @AbyssWatch3r who hurt you? Do you need me to call your parents?

    @UrbanGlitch who hurt me? I almost know for a fact you get wrekt by Heroes and that's the prime reason you advocate for this crazed focus on trooper only nonsense. Sorry pal, but trooper play is trash. It's way too casual for there to be any real focus on it over Heroes and new modes. Any scrub can kill anybody now simply because enough in the last game complained that everybody was running Jet pack and bacta and they we're getting lased by the ee-4/3. The class system sucks in comparison, it's dumbed down. How many times to I have to repeat this point? Playing a Hero brings some of that semblance of counter play back simply because you don't immediately die now because some kid throws a grenade at his feet just as you gun him down. That was BF2105 I'd roll with shield up, or Just Jet out and laugh, but now you just die. Lmao, clearly this is just lost on you all. Really watching you all defend it is laughable.

    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer


    xjzy15ft8uco.gif

    I beg to differ sir, you mean the heroes of bf2 I think. And yes, the skill gap was greater by miles in 15 compared to bf2.

    Yeah except the arcade level easy mode which is Blasters. They were so ridiculously easy to shoot it wasn’t even funny.

    You didn’t even need to ADS to slaughter people across the map. Recoils was practically nil. Overall trooper play was more bland than this iteration. So if you think it took skill to shoot compared to BF17 it’s no wonder you guys are haters.

    The only plus I’d say is it was a little less buggy.
  • Billy Dee supports the movement.

    2n1hd1bqdliu.gif
    PSN: BucksawBoushh
  • Relmets
    2222 posts Member
    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer

    And you call what we have now any better? everybody still running the exact same build except now it's near universal with nearly 0 diversity. Yes, knock the jet pack bacta guard combat all you wan't. It still took more skill to pull off than anything this games trooper play has to offer. All that's changed is the ttk has dramatically increased and a lot of counterplay has been removed. I'm sorry, but 2015 had better trooper play than this game hands down without a doubt. If that was like using a printer then BF2017 is like hammering a nail, and many scrubs here fail at even that.

    After seeing this, I'm not surprised you're on-board with removing HvV. You couldn't even make the top 5! Tough scene to say the least.

    vfx74ut1ioud.png
    bkk6nuvxy5lh.png

    Wow, you sure got me there, except for the fact that isn't my handle nor would I ever be caught dead getting wrekt by the likes of you lmao or your bodyguards. At best you'd break even with me in your lobby, probably go negative. Smart for you to cover your friends account because you'd definitely be on the list of the try hards I make sure to t-bag and emote every time I kill.
    Agree OP, Infantry needs way more focus than it is getting currently. I do not play this game for heroes and I never watched the movies for the heroes, its all about the Infantry for me.
    @AbyssWatch3r who hurt you? Do you need me to call your parents?

    @UrbanGlitch who hurt me? I almost know for a fact you get wrekt by Heroes and that's the prime reason you advocate for this crazed focus on trooper only nonsense. Sorry pal, but trooper play is trash. It's way too casual for there to be any real focus on it over Heroes and new modes. Any scrub can kill anybody now simply because enough in the last game complained that everybody was running Jet pack and bacta and they we're getting lased by the ee-4/3. The class system sucks in comparison, it's dumbed down. How many times to I have to repeat this point? Playing a Hero brings some of that semblance of counter play back simply because you don't immediately die now because some kid throws a grenade at his feet just as you gun him down. That was BF2105 I'd roll with shield up, or Just Jet out and laugh, but now you just die. Lmao, clearly this is just lost on you all. Really watching you all defend it is laughable.

    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer


    xjzy15ft8uco.gif

    I beg to differ sir, you mean the heroes of bf2 I think. And yes, the skill gap was greater by miles in 15 compared to bf2.

    Yeah except the arcade level easy mode which is Blasters. They were so ridiculously easy to shoot it wasn’t even funny.

    You didn’t even need to ADS to slaughter people across the map. Recoils was practically nil. Overall trooper play was more bland than this iteration. So if you think it took skill to shoot compared to BF17 it’s no wonder you guys are haters.

    The only plus I’d say is it was a little less buggy.

    I don't understand this ADS = more skilled meme
    All that the things you mentioned do is change the pace of the game. A faster paced game isn't a less skilled game. You still needed to have good aim, and more so than this game you needed to be maneuverable.
    I'm not trying to be mean but all of your 2015front criticisms just seem like generic talking points made by people who don't really know what they're saying.
    [+3748 posts]
  • Relmets wrote: »
    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer

    And you call what we have now any better? everybody still running the exact same build except now it's near universal with nearly 0 diversity. Yes, knock the jet pack bacta guard combat all you wan't. It still took more skill to pull off than anything this games trooper play has to offer. All that's changed is the ttk has dramatically increased and a lot of counterplay has been removed. I'm sorry, but 2015 had better trooper play than this game hands down without a doubt. If that was like using a printer then BF2017 is like hammering a nail, and many scrubs here fail at even that.

    After seeing this, I'm not surprised you're on-board with removing HvV. You couldn't even make the top 5! Tough scene to say the least.

    vfx74ut1ioud.png
    bkk6nuvxy5lh.png

    Wow, you sure got me there, except for the fact that isn't my handle nor would I ever be caught dead getting wrekt by the likes of you lmao or your bodyguards. At best you'd break even with me in your lobby, probably go negative. Smart for you to cover your friends account because you'd definitely be on the list of the try hards I make sure to t-bag and emote every time I kill.
    Agree OP, Infantry needs way more focus than it is getting currently. I do not play this game for heroes and I never watched the movies for the heroes, its all about the Infantry for me.
    @AbyssWatch3r who hurt you? Do you need me to call your parents?

    @UrbanGlitch who hurt me? I almost know for a fact you get wrekt by Heroes and that's the prime reason you advocate for this crazed focus on trooper only nonsense. Sorry pal, but trooper play is trash. It's way too casual for there to be any real focus on it over Heroes and new modes. Any scrub can kill anybody now simply because enough in the last game complained that everybody was running Jet pack and bacta and they we're getting lased by the ee-4/3. The class system sucks in comparison, it's dumbed down. How many times to I have to repeat this point? Playing a Hero brings some of that semblance of counter play back simply because you don't immediately die now because some kid throws a grenade at his feet just as you gun him down. That was BF2105 I'd roll with shield up, or Just Jet out and laugh, but now you just die. Lmao, clearly this is just lost on you all. Really watching you all defend it is laughable.

    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer


    xjzy15ft8uco.gif

    I beg to differ sir, you mean the heroes of bf2 I think. And yes, the skill gap was greater by miles in 15 compared to bf2.

    Yeah except the arcade level easy mode which is Blasters. They were so ridiculously easy to shoot it wasn’t even funny.

    You didn’t even need to ADS to slaughter people across the map. Recoils was practically nil. Overall trooper play was more bland than this iteration. So if you think it took skill to shoot compared to BF17 it’s no wonder you guys are haters.

    The only plus I’d say is it was a little less buggy.

    I don't understand this ADS = more skilled meme
    All that the things you mentioned do is change the pace of the game. A faster paced game isn't a less skilled game. You still needed to have good aim, and more so than this game you needed to be maneuverable.
    I'm not trying to be mean but all of your 2015front criticisms just seem like generic talking points made by people who don't really know what they're saying.

    I found BF2 to require much more precision than the first. Just because you’re a BF15 fanboy doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m talking about.
  • Relmets wrote: »
    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer

    And you call what we have now any better? everybody still running the exact same build except now it's near universal with nearly 0 diversity. Yes, knock the jet pack bacta guard combat all you wan't. It still took more skill to pull off than anything this games trooper play has to offer. All that's changed is the ttk has dramatically increased and a lot of counterplay has been removed. I'm sorry, but 2015 had better trooper play than this game hands down without a doubt. If that was like using a printer then BF2017 is like hammering a nail, and many scrubs here fail at even that.

    After seeing this, I'm not surprised you're on-board with removing HvV. You couldn't even make the top 5! Tough scene to say the least.

    vfx74ut1ioud.png
    bkk6nuvxy5lh.png

    Wow, you sure got me there, except for the fact that isn't my handle nor would I ever be caught dead getting wrekt by the likes of you lmao or your bodyguards. At best you'd break even with me in your lobby, probably go negative. Smart for you to cover your friends account because you'd definitely be on the list of the try hards I make sure to t-bag and emote every time I kill.
    Agree OP, Infantry needs way more focus than it is getting currently. I do not play this game for heroes and I never watched the movies for the heroes, its all about the Infantry for me.
    @AbyssWatch3r who hurt you? Do you need me to call your parents?

    @UrbanGlitch who hurt me? I almost know for a fact you get wrekt by Heroes and that's the prime reason you advocate for this crazed focus on trooper only nonsense. Sorry pal, but trooper play is trash. It's way too casual for there to be any real focus on it over Heroes and new modes. Any scrub can kill anybody now simply because enough in the last game complained that everybody was running Jet pack and bacta and they we're getting lased by the ee-4/3. The class system sucks in comparison, it's dumbed down. How many times to I have to repeat this point? Playing a Hero brings some of that semblance of counter play back simply because you don't immediately die now because some kid throws a grenade at his feet just as you gun him down. That was BF2105 I'd roll with shield up, or Just Jet out and laugh, but now you just die. Lmao, clearly this is just lost on you all. Really watching you all defend it is laughable.

    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer


    xjzy15ft8uco.gif

    I beg to differ sir, you mean the heroes of bf2 I think. And yes, the skill gap was greater by miles in 15 compared to bf2.

    Yeah except the arcade level easy mode which is Blasters. They were so ridiculously easy to shoot it wasn’t even funny.

    You didn’t even need to ADS to slaughter people across the map. Recoils was practically nil. Overall trooper play was more bland than this iteration. So if you think it took skill to shoot compared to BF17 it’s no wonder you guys are haters.

    The only plus I’d say is it was a little less buggy.

    I don't understand this ADS = more skilled meme
    All that the things you mentioned do is change the pace of the game. A faster paced game isn't a less skilled game. You still needed to have good aim, and more so than this game you needed to be maneuverable.
    I'm not trying to be mean but all of your 2015front criticisms just seem like generic talking points made by people who don't really know what they're saying.

    +1

    There's a huge skill gap with hip-firing. Bungie improved hip-firing on Destiny 2 to increase the skill gap.

    Hip-firing is still possible on BF17. In fact, I almost exclusively hip-fire. The A280-CFE is particularly great for hip-firing. Not sure what @Phantom_A320 is going on about.
    My name is Bob

  • I personally found hip firing more difficult than ADSing. That faster paced gameplay along with the quicker TTK made for higher skill (IMO).
    PSN: BucksawBoushh
  • Relmets
    2222 posts Member
    Relmets wrote: »
    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer

    And you call what we have now any better? everybody still running the exact same build except now it's near universal with nearly 0 diversity. Yes, knock the jet pack bacta guard combat all you wan't. It still took more skill to pull off than anything this games trooper play has to offer. All that's changed is the ttk has dramatically increased and a lot of counterplay has been removed. I'm sorry, but 2015 had better trooper play than this game hands down without a doubt. If that was like using a printer then BF2017 is like hammering a nail, and many scrubs here fail at even that.

    After seeing this, I'm not surprised you're on-board with removing HvV. You couldn't even make the top 5! Tough scene to say the least.

    vfx74ut1ioud.png
    bkk6nuvxy5lh.png

    Wow, you sure got me there, except for the fact that isn't my handle nor would I ever be caught dead getting wrekt by the likes of you lmao or your bodyguards. At best you'd break even with me in your lobby, probably go negative. Smart for you to cover your friends account because you'd definitely be on the list of the try hards I make sure to t-bag and emote every time I kill.
    Agree OP, Infantry needs way more focus than it is getting currently. I do not play this game for heroes and I never watched the movies for the heroes, its all about the Infantry for me.
    @AbyssWatch3r who hurt you? Do you need me to call your parents?

    @UrbanGlitch who hurt me? I almost know for a fact you get wrekt by Heroes and that's the prime reason you advocate for this crazed focus on trooper only nonsense. Sorry pal, but trooper play is trash. It's way too casual for there to be any real focus on it over Heroes and new modes. Any scrub can kill anybody now simply because enough in the last game complained that everybody was running Jet pack and bacta and they we're getting lased by the ee-4/3. The class system sucks in comparison, it's dumbed down. How many times to I have to repeat this point? Playing a Hero brings some of that semblance of counter play back simply because you don't immediately die now because some kid throws a grenade at his feet just as you gun him down. That was BF2105 I'd roll with shield up, or Just Jet out and laugh, but now you just die. Lmao, clearly this is just lost on you all. Really watching you all defend it is laughable.

    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer


    xjzy15ft8uco.gif

    I beg to differ sir, you mean the heroes of bf2 I think. And yes, the skill gap was greater by miles in 15 compared to bf2.

    Yeah except the arcade level easy mode which is Blasters. They were so ridiculously easy to shoot it wasn’t even funny.

    You didn’t even need to ADS to slaughter people across the map. Recoils was practically nil. Overall trooper play was more bland than this iteration. So if you think it took skill to shoot compared to BF17 it’s no wonder you guys are haters.

    The only plus I’d say is it was a little less buggy.

    I don't understand this ADS = more skilled meme
    All that the things you mentioned do is change the pace of the game. A faster paced game isn't a less skilled game. You still needed to have good aim, and more so than this game you needed to be maneuverable.
    I'm not trying to be mean but all of your 2015front criticisms just seem like generic talking points made by people who don't really know what they're saying.

    +1

    There's a huge skill gap with hip-firing. Bungie improved hip-firing on Destiny 2 to increase the skill gap.

    Hip-firing is still possible on BF17. In fact, I almost exclusively hip-fire. The A280-CFE is particularly great for hip-firing. Not sure what @Phantom_A320 is going on about.
    I personally found hip firing more difficult than ADSing. That faster paced gameplay along with the quicker TTK made for higher skill (IMO).

    Agreed
    Relmets wrote: »
    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer

    And you call what we have now any better? everybody still running the exact same build except now it's near universal with nearly 0 diversity. Yes, knock the jet pack bacta guard combat all you wan't. It still took more skill to pull off than anything this games trooper play has to offer. All that's changed is the ttk has dramatically increased and a lot of counterplay has been removed. I'm sorry, but 2015 had better trooper play than this game hands down without a doubt. If that was like using a printer then BF2017 is like hammering a nail, and many scrubs here fail at even that.

    After seeing this, I'm not surprised you're on-board with removing HvV. You couldn't even make the top 5! Tough scene to say the least.

    vfx74ut1ioud.png
    bkk6nuvxy5lh.png

    Wow, you sure got me there, except for the fact that isn't my handle nor would I ever be caught dead getting wrekt by the likes of you lmao or your bodyguards. At best you'd break even with me in your lobby, probably go negative. Smart for you to cover your friends account because you'd definitely be on the list of the try hards I make sure to t-bag and emote every time I kill.
    Agree OP, Infantry needs way more focus than it is getting currently. I do not play this game for heroes and I never watched the movies for the heroes, its all about the Infantry for me.
    @AbyssWatch3r who hurt you? Do you need me to call your parents?

    @UrbanGlitch who hurt me? I almost know for a fact you get wrekt by Heroes and that's the prime reason you advocate for this crazed focus on trooper only nonsense. Sorry pal, but trooper play is trash. It's way too casual for there to be any real focus on it over Heroes and new modes. Any scrub can kill anybody now simply because enough in the last game complained that everybody was running Jet pack and bacta and they we're getting lased by the ee-4/3. The class system sucks in comparison, it's dumbed down. How many times to I have to repeat this point? Playing a Hero brings some of that semblance of counter play back simply because you don't immediately die now because some kid throws a grenade at his feet just as you gun him down. That was BF2105 I'd roll with shield up, or Just Jet out and laugh, but now you just die. Lmao, clearly this is just lost on you all. Really watching you all defend it is laughable.

    I hope you’re not saying Battlefront 2015 had better gunplay/mechanics etc... that games gunplay was terrible and skill less. Being good in BF2015 was like saying you were pro at using a printer


    xjzy15ft8uco.gif

    I beg to differ sir, you mean the heroes of bf2 I think. And yes, the skill gap was greater by miles in 15 compared to bf2.

    Yeah except the arcade level easy mode which is Blasters. They were so ridiculously easy to shoot it wasn’t even funny.

    You didn’t even need to ADS to slaughter people across the map. Recoils was practically nil. Overall trooper play was more bland than this iteration. So if you think it took skill to shoot compared to BF17 it’s no wonder you guys are haters.

    The only plus I’d say is it was a little less buggy.

    I don't understand this ADS = more skilled meme
    All that the things you mentioned do is change the pace of the game. A faster paced game isn't a less skilled game. You still needed to have good aim, and more so than this game you needed to be maneuverable.
    I'm not trying to be mean but all of your 2015front criticisms just seem like generic talking points made by people who don't really know what they're saying.

    I found BF2 to require much more precision than the first. Just because you’re a BF15 fanboy doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m talking about.

    Well I can't say I follow but you seem adamant about it so let's agree to disagree
    giphy.gif
    [+3748 posts]
  • I'm gonna use an a screenshot instead of quoting all that
    y3o5loexlt5e.png

    The "herolords" did get 4 heroes

    Finn and Phasma who were probably mostly done before launch, Grievous where there are many signs that he was being worked on prior to launch, and Obi-Wan who is mostly a joke. I'm sure Hero players would have been more than happy to not have the overpowered mess that is Grievous or the pile of worthlessness that is Obi-Wan. Phasma is also a meme of a hero and not a match of HvV goes by where a joke about Finn's inability to fight most heroes isn't said.

    I'm just saying that it's not like the Hero people are getting all the attention or are the reason that infantry play is given the shaft. Yeah, it is dumb that they can't make regular cargo but it is also dumb that the devs disregarded the remove target system threads or for reasons unknown refuse to fix exploit spots on maps. The hero combat in this game is utter trash aswell. In a way, you came across as blaming the hero players for them focusing the game like this
    dnnw3mpvuikh.png
    Heroes aren't the priority, Clone Wars content is.

    qbg7aabwr7jn.png
    I don't know a single hero player I play with that wants either of those two nor care for more heroes at all considering how they seem to have given up on fixing hero glitches. The heroes players I know would gladly a history where Phasma, Finn, Grievous, and Obi-Wan do not happen just for that effort to have gone into the game is better balanced and less buggy.

    My point was that everyone but Clone Wars fans are getting the shaft.



    Janina Gavankar/Iden Versio Fan
    First Max Prestige Iden Versio
    hojevrxvarht.png
    PSN: Empire_TW. Twitter: Empire_TW. Youtube: Empire_TW.
  • Relmets
    2222 posts Member
    @Empire_TW I can accept that the heroes have been sub par, and that hero players haven't been living it up and having a great time while other players got neglected, but it still is content, and it still accounts for the majority of additional content. Now what I WANT is for all players to be appeased, but I think we can agree that isn't very likely. Not because it is too ideal of a wish, but because DICE's delivery has been less than ideal. When I ask them to focus on troopers, it's not because I don't want more hero content in the game, it's because I'm guessing that if they focus on anything hero related troopers will get nothing. Again. No weapons, or new equipment, or skins.

    As I said before I will be happy to be proven wrong by the devs, and see plenty of content rolling out, but as long as I believe it's only one or the other I'm going to advocate for troopers on the grounds that heroes have had some new additions.
    [+3748 posts]
Sign In or Register to comment.

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!