The game is better thanks to Eras, and more balanced thanks to less heroes
January 26, 2019 1:10PM
edited January 26
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Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
HU Really? Gets tired very quickly for me especially lagwise when all heros in one spot
It was here first and requested first.
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
^ this event has done nothing to GA balance wise outside of making things worse.
Yeah, I’ve found it really just makes some heroes rule without contest.
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
Anecdotal claim, obviously. This is not my experience at all.
Cool. My experience was killing troopers without real contest as a hero. Go figure.
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
What, one on one? Three on one? Ten on one? Eighteen on one?
I mean, as Palps/ Bossk/Iden yeah, that’s pretty Manageable. As Yoda or Obi, that would be a bit harder, and as Kylo it would be pretty much impossible, but rarely is it 18 on one lol. Even if it was, heroes like Palps and Bossk and Iden have many tools to destroy Infantry with relative ease.
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
Please, show and tell. Because my experience is that it's worse, especially on ST maps (always won by Resistance even if the exact same team just lost horribly as the First Order).
In general, final phases now massively favour defense on all maps, while first phases more often end in spawntraps for whomever gets beaten to the first two heroes, as many counterpicks that are useful to break out of a trap (e.g. Rey, Finn, Bossk, Palp, Iden) are unavailable on many maps.
all but DICE's data (which I suspect points one way) will be anecdotes. Personally, mine are that games go like this.
Note the the clone wars Kenobi that topped the Rebel team 4 years after Kenobi's in universe death. Immersion.
I had 1 competitive GA game out of maybe a dozen played yesterday (both solo and in a 2-3 person group), and that one was because of a very impressive Iden player opposing me that literally carried their whole team on DSII to the tune of like 3x the score of the next player on that team. After I fragged her with my own hero on P3 their team quickly fell apart and lost, showing they had no business challenging us for the win and it wasn't really a "competitive" game, just one where defense being heavily favoured held up a bad team for awhile.
Note DSII is probably the most balanced GA map in the game. All others my experience has been even more negative.
But there are some downsides. The game plays better in its "natural" state.
Eras should be in a rotation with Heroes Unleashed. One weekend per month each, or one weekend alternating monthly between the two. Neither should be permanent, IMO.
Crait:
Leia, Chewie, Han, Rey
Kylo, Phasma
Balanced?
YOUNG Leia. VERY YOUNG Han.
Anyways, not to defend this terrible event, but there is a limit of 2 heroes per team at a time during the event.
Oh well that is overpowering reasoning right there; -)
( I tried to make my references to other people as general as possibly since I know there are those rage people who get mad when other people say what their opinion is)
Well ya. What reason do you have for Era accurate weekend?
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
Uh... you playing the same game we are? This is waaay less fun then normal. Even excludinng that, the balance is terrible for two of the three GA eras. It's clsoe to what it was before in the OT. No way this gets kept. The only response I've seen in the in-game chats is annoyance or shrugging, no one seems excited by this
Yeah dude, but it's been like that for a few weeks. The balancing changes have caused this, not the weekend change in gameplay rules
The issue is not Era accuracy but limiting Heroes and Lag as said previously. ...I think the Hero less GA request was around long before HU even saw the light of day
I am on Xbox one and this is what I came to.
Kashyyyk. - Largely the same.
Hoth - Harder for empire in the first phase because more players are using vehicle especially aircriaft.
Crait - First order does better in first and second phase because of vehicles and reinforcements worse in third phase do to lack of ranged heroes.
Geonosis - Largely the same.
Jakku - First order doing better first and second phase worse third/fourth phase.
Takodana - Largely the same. That map is just bad.
Nabboo - Droids seem to have an easier time in the first phase do to AATs but once trying to get inside the palace its harder.
Kamino - Droids do better first and really good second phase but worse third phase.
Yavin 4 - Empire does better first phase, worse second phase.
Endor - Empire seems to do a lot better overall.
Star killer base - First order does worse first and much worse second phase better third phase
Tattooine - Empire does better until final phase.
Death star 2 - Rebels do better all phases
So lack of heroes lets vehicles play a bigger part. Overall seems better to me.
Battlefront 2 , Battlefield and more.
Can ya show me when the hero less GA event was made?
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
He said request not event. But the heroless ga request was around for a long time. https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/81406/request-galactic-assault-mode-without-heroes
request from 2017.
Battlefront 2 , Battlefield and more.
The space between Hero and Less was deliberate to cover both scenarios
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
Shall we turn it around? Shall we ”lol to the people” that need overpowered hero crutches in order to perform in GA? Go play HvV if you want the game to be about heroes.
Or simply get a grip and realize that this game doesn’t revolve solely around you and your ”needs”.
"You release a new hero and now you can’t even use him" - That is a completely seperate thing, it is not related to the event itself
"Lol to the people that want less hero’s because they struggle to defeat them" - Very nice strawman
"The point of the game and the part that makes it fun are the HEROS" - Fun is subjective, my fun comes from not having heroes, I did not buy this game for the heroes
"Go play blast if you can’t figure out how to defeat them" - No you
That’s not true, some people just like Infantry more.
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
Why do we always have to assume that people only play heroes because they are no good at troopers? How do you think they got the bp in the first place? With the exception of the officer, who sometimes gets BP for literally doing nothing, I often see that the people who are REALLY good as the heroes are also really good with the troopers. Otherwise they would be the sort that wants heroes unleashed all the time. For some people, heroes are fun, and it has nothing to do with their performance as a trooper.
You can use him on certain maps and in HVV.
Mostly we just want them to be somewhat era accurate. I mainly want them to be era accurate because seeing the same 2 heroes on both sides for every map is extremely boring.
The point of Battlefront is to be able to play as one of the grunts of the many factions of the game. That's all how 6 previous Battlefront games have been. Yes there have been 6 Battlefronts before this one. All of them era accurate accept in the ones that have HVV. Then this game they changed that.
Battlefront 2 , Battlefield and more.
Why do ”we” always have to hone in on everything, except for the actual point? Loads of people have paid for this game, and many of those people feel that the Battlefront series’ focal point is trooper combat, and that Dice overdid the heroes in BF2. Now we have an event for THREE days where the hero number is lowered, and then back to the ordinary, and you still can’t deal with that... yeah...
I’m sure you are...
Again, missing the point. Even though I’m pro cross era, I can see some prefer Infantry, and don’t want to feel like an insignificant unit at the last phase. Some want to play Infantry with Objectives, and take place in a war, not be fodder for the next hero spammer. I have seen some of these people perform exceptionally, but choose not to be a hero because to them,(and me partially) Battlefront is not about the heroes, it’s about the soldiers that fought to help them, and their stories.
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
Go play blast or strike if you want the game to be about troopers. HvV is strictly heroes. Strike and blast is strictly troopers. GA is a mix.
Yeah, it’s a mix. And today it’s 2 heroes per team. Deal with it.