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The game is better thanks to Eras, and more balanced thanks to less heroes

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DarthCapa2
2883 posts Member
edited January 26
As the title, the game is a lot more enjoyable! More immersion, more balance thanks a right number of heroes avaliable (4 are too many in GA)! Make it permanent, this is how battlefront should be! @F8RGE @EA_Tom

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  • I think lose heros completely or have more heros per era. Matches this week have been awful. Teams and team mates terrible.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    If this becomes permanent, HU needs to become permanent first.

    HU Really? Gets tired very quickly for me especially lagwise when all heros in one spot

    It was here first and requested first.
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  • unit900000 wrote: »
    If by balanced you mean its impossible to take certain choke points then yes its "balanced"

    ^ this event has done nothing to GA balance wise outside of making things worse.

    Anecdotal claim, obviously. This is not my experience at all.

    Cool. My experience was killing troopers without real contest as a hero. Go figure.
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    If by balanced you mean its impossible to take certain choke points then yes its "balanced"

    ^ this event has done nothing to GA balance wise outside of making things worse.

    Anecdotal claim, obviously. This is not my experience at all.

    Cool. My experience was killing troopers without real contest as a hero. Go figure.

    What, one on one? Three on one? Ten on one? Eighteen on one?
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    unit900000 wrote: »
    If by balanced you mean its impossible to take certain choke points then yes its "balanced"

    ^ this event has done nothing to GA balance wise outside of making things worse.

    Anecdotal claim, obviously. This is not my experience at all.

    Cool. My experience was killing troopers without real contest as a hero. Go figure.

    What, one on one? Three on one? Ten on one? Eighteen on one?

    I mean, as Palps/ Bossk/Iden yeah, that’s pretty Manageable. As Yoda or Obi, that would be a bit harder, and as Kylo it would be pretty much impossible, but rarely is it 18 on one lol. Even if it was, heroes like Palps and Bossk and Iden have many tools to destroy Infantry with relative ease.
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  • I'm loving it, particularly the immersion, and the more trooper-centric final phases.

    But there are some downsides. The game plays better in its "natural" state.

    Eras should be in a rotation with Heroes Unleashed. One weekend per month each, or one weekend alternating monthly between the two. Neither should be permanent, IMO.
  • FYI, era locked heores means up to four heroes in a team in some maps.

    Crait:

    Leia, Chewie, Han, Rey

    Kylo, Phasma

    Balanced?



  • Liz4rD wrote: »
    FYI, era locked heores means up to four heroes in a team in some maps.

    Crait:

    Leia, Chewie, Han, Rey

    Kylo, Phasma

    Balanced?



    YOUNG Leia. VERY YOUNG Han.

    Anyways, not to defend this terrible event, but there is a limit of 2 heroes per team at a time during the event.
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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    If this becomes permanent, HU needs to become permanent first.

    HU Really? Gets tired very quickly for me especially lagwise when all heros in one spot

    It was here first and requested first.

    Oh well that is overpowering reasoning right there; -)
  • If some of you guys are having trouble it’s most likely on you, hate to use the kiddie saying of GitGud, but its most likely warrented.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    If this becomes permanent, HU needs to become permanent first.

    HU Really? Gets tired very quickly for me especially lagwise when all heros in one spot

    It was here first and requested first.

    Oh well that is overpowering reasoning right there; -)

    Well ya. What reason do you have for Era accurate weekend?
    You guys are gonna make me rich......
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    That Specialist rework was disappointing.
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  • Yanks28th
    144 posts Member
    edited January 26
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    If this becomes permanent, HU needs to become permanent first.

    Uh... you playing the same game we are? This is waaay less fun then normal. Even excludinng that, the balance is terrible for two of the three GA eras. It's clsoe to what it was before in the OT. No way this gets kept. The only response I've seen in the in-game chats is annoyance or shrugging, no one seems excited by this
  • Event is amazing, it feels like a Battlefront game now, balance is great (would prefer if heroes were a little more expensive as to not have them appear so quickly), every match I have played has been hard fought for both sides usually ending in the 3rd or last phase...on every map.

    Yeah dude, but it's been like that for a few weeks. The balancing changes have caused this, not the weekend change in gameplay rules
  • I agree to a certain extent but I've also had several games where because it's only reduced to 2 heroes that you can have two people just hero camping and not contributing to the objective which just makes it even more frustrating and completely takes the balance away.
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    If this becomes permanent, HU needs to become permanent first.

    HU Really? Gets tired very quickly for me especially lagwise when all heros in one spot

    It was here first and requested first.

    Oh well that is overpowering reasoning right there; -)

    Well ya. What reason do you have for Era accurate weekend?

    The issue is not Era accuracy but limiting Heroes and Lag as said previously. ...I think the Hero less GA request was around long before HU even saw the light of day
  • Troopper_FoFo
    1055 posts Member
    edited January 26
    Well here is my experiance on every map. I feel during this event the balance of the game is very different from Consoles to Pc.

    I am on Xbox one and this is what I came to.

    Kashyyyk. - Largely the same.

    Hoth - Harder for empire in the first phase because more players are using vehicle especially aircriaft.

    Crait - First order does better in first and second phase because of vehicles and reinforcements worse in third phase do to lack of ranged heroes.

    Geonosis - Largely the same.

    Jakku - First order doing better first and second phase worse third/fourth phase.

    Takodana - Largely the same. That map is just bad.

    Nabboo - Droids seem to have an easier time in the first phase do to AATs but once trying to get inside the palace its harder.

    Kamino - Droids do better first and really good second phase but worse third phase.

    Yavin 4 - Empire does better first phase, worse second phase.

    Endor - Empire seems to do a lot better overall.

    Star killer base - First order does worse first and much worse second phase better third phase

    Tattooine - Empire does better until final phase.

    Death star 2 - Rebels do better all phases

    So lack of heroes lets vehicles play a bigger part. Overall seems better to me.

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  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    If this becomes permanent, HU needs to become permanent first.

    HU Really? Gets tired very quickly for me especially lagwise when all heros in one spot

    It was here first and requested first.

    Oh well that is overpowering reasoning right there; -)

    Well ya. What reason do you have for Era accurate weekend?

    The issue is not Era accuracy but limiting Heroes and Lag as said previously. ...I think the Hero less GA request was around long before HU even saw the light of day

    Can ya show me when the hero less GA event was made?
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    That Specialist rework was disappointing.
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  • Feels a lot better for full team not just the few who will always defend their need to club people with Heros by selective play styles. ..However it is still GA with the linearity ( and lag lag ) and this highlights inbalances....ie fundamental weakness of the mode New mode nweds to come to rescue the large mode
  • GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    If this becomes permanent, HU needs to become permanent first.

    HU Really? Gets tired very quickly for me especially lagwise when all heros in one spot

    It was here first and requested first.

    Oh well that is overpowering reasoning right there; -)

    Well ya. What reason do you have for Era accurate weekend?

    The issue is not Era accuracy but limiting Heroes and Lag as said previously. ...I think the Hero less GA request was around long before HU even saw the light of day

    Can ya show me when the hero less GA event was made?

    He said request not event. But the heroless ga request was around for a long time. https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/81406/request-galactic-assault-mode-without-heroes

    request from 2017.

    The space between Hero and Less was deliberate to cover both scenarios
  • I just had a match that I joined on Jakku that says that this isn’t the most balanced Battlefront’s been.
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  • Schwarzy wrote: »
    This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. You release a new hero and now you can’t even use him. Lol to the people that want less hero’s because they struggle to defeat them. The point of the game and the part that makes it fun are the HEROS. Go play blast if you can’t figure out how to defeat them. *hint* flash a hero with a flash gernade and shoot them. It’s really not that hard.

    Shall we turn it around? Shall we ”lol to the people” that need overpowered hero crutches in order to perform in GA? Go play HvV if you want the game to be about heroes.

    Or simply get a grip and realize that this game doesn’t revolve solely around you and your ”needs”.

    Why do we always have to assume that people only play heroes because they are no good at troopers? How do you think they got the bp in the first place? With the exception of the officer, who sometimes gets BP for literally doing nothing, I often see that the people who are REALLY good as the heroes are also really good with the troopers. Otherwise they would be the sort that wants heroes unleashed all the time. For some people, heroes are fun, and it has nothing to do with their performance as a trooper.
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  • Troopper_FoFo
    1055 posts Member
    edited January 26
    Schwarzy wrote: »
    This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. You release a new hero and now you can’t even use him. Lol to the people that want less hero’s because they struggle to defeat them. The point of the game and the part that makes it fun are the HEROS. Go play blast if you can’t figure out how to defeat them. *hint* flash a hero with a flash gernade and shoot them. It’s really not that hard.

    You can use him on certain maps and in HVV.

    Mostly we just want them to be somewhat era accurate. I mainly want them to be era accurate because seeing the same 2 heroes on both sides for every map is extremely boring.

    The point of Battlefront is to be able to play as one of the grunts of the many factions of the game. That's all how 6 previous Battlefront games have been. Yes there have been 6 Battlefronts before this one. All of them era accurate accept in the ones that have HVV. Then this game they changed that.

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  • Honestly you guys can’t be good at this game then. I’ve played this game since the beginning. I play to win the game. I’m not the guy in the back of the map trying to get 3 kill streaks and not contributing to the actual objectives. Just because you struggle at the game doesn’t mean they have to change everything. I don’t just play as a hero. Im very good with officer.
  • Schwarzy wrote: »
    Honestly you guys can’t be good at this game then. I’ve played this game since the beginning. I play to win the game. I’m not the guy in the back of the map trying to get 3 kill streaks and not contributing to the actual objectives. Just because you struggle at the game doesn’t mean they have to change everything. I don’t just play as a hero. Im very good with officer.

    I’m sure you are...
  • I sometimes play as an officer the whole game just to get the win because I rather have the bad players be a hero because I can actually do something as a trooper.
  • Schwarzy wrote: »
    This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. You release a new hero and now you can’t even use him. Lol to the people that want less hero’s because they struggle to defeat them. The point of the game and the part that makes it fun are the HEROS. Go play blast if you can’t figure out how to defeat them. *hint* flash a hero with a flash gernade and shoot them. It’s really not that hard.

    Shall we turn it around? Shall we ”lol to the people” that need overpowered hero crutches in order to perform in GA? Go play HvV if you want the game to be about heroes.

    Or simply get a grip and realize that this game doesn’t revolve solely around you and your ”needs”.

    Why do we always have to assume that people only play heroes because they are no good at troopers? How do you think they got the bp in the first place? With the exception of the officer, who sometimes gets BP for literally doing nothing, I often see that the people who are REALLY good as the heroes are also really good with the troopers. Otherwise they would be the sort that wants heroes unleashed all the time. For some people, heroes are fun, and it has nothing to do with their performance as a trooper.

    Why do ”we” always have to hone in on everything, except for the actual point? Loads of people have paid for this game, and many of those people feel that the Battlefront series’ focal point is trooper combat, and that Dice overdid the heroes in BF2. Now we have an event for THREE days where the hero number is lowered, and then back to the ordinary, and you still can’t deal with that... yeah...
    Go play HvV if you want the game to be about heroes.

    Go play blast or strike if you want the game to be about troopers. HvV is strictly heroes. Strike and blast is strictly troopers. GA is a mix.
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