The game is better thanks to Eras, and more balanced thanks to less heroes
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Judging from feedback it’s much less popular than heroes unleashed
Truthfully, there is no TRUE SW "immersion." There are anachronistic things ALL over GA. That lack of cross-era heroes isn't what's impacted "YOUR" immersion. It's the game!
And... GA is WORSE off without cross-eras heroes. That's how it started. That's how it shall continue. If you want in-era game, then let DICE create it. Should be fun to play against the other boo-hoo "ME" players who number in the 10s.
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Funnily enough you let ”YOUR” idea of immersion and YOUR understanding of the term dictate your little speech there, patronizing those who have been asking for era-accurate heroes by not paying attention to what they have been saying. If that doesn’t scream ”MY”, ”ME”, ”I”, I don’t know what does.
The word ”immersion” is used waaaay more often by the pro-cross-era posters than by the ones pushing for era-accurate-heroes somewhere in BF2 btw...
clone wars still has Yoda, Bossk, Palps and Maul. Yoda being god tier in GA can carry a team by him self and the DS still has its top 3 villains on these maps basically its the same old thing here. Prequel trilogy has Yoda, Palps and Bossk. once again Yoda can carry a team by him self and DS has Palps and Bossk and thats all they need its the same old thing yet again. sequel trilogy has Rey, Finn, Kylo and Phasma and this is were the unbalance comes in as Rey and Finn are both Top 3 LS heroes while Kylo and Phasma are both low tier DS heroes even with how good Kylo can be at disrupting the enemy and killing heroes he simply isn't on the same tier as Rey and Finn and Phasma is to situational being good maybe on only like 1 phase on a few maps. I will say the only saving grace the first order has is the flame trooper who is more powerful then wookie warriors from my experience but I have not played this event enough to see if they actually make a difference.
And this why we don't have good games.
Less heroes avaliable in GA = a more balanced mode, yes.
Stop trying to silence who don't think like you. You are not able to argue. It's here to stay? OK then I'll remember them how bad it is not have a immersive mode until this game will exist.
How many times are you gonna make me use this?
I agree. But then I'd always rather stay as infantry.
Using it on yourself would be a good start...
In every battlefront game heroes were max 1 per side in the main mode. Never ever someone complain about this in the past, on contrary they were some of the best games of their period. Even in Battlefront 2015 only one hero per side, and when the multi hero glitch affected it for a period, have several heroes on the field was a lot hated by players. And now here we are... With people that defend cross era, Indiana Jones skins for Han Solo, hero unleashed that broke the balance etc etc.. Bah....
DarthCapa2 says we don't have good games. I can think of hundreds.
It's my opinion that I can think of hundreds of games worth playing?
Personally, I liked both events for different reasons. I liked HU for its excitement and chaos, and the cheap hero prices meant I didn’t have to play as conservatively with my hero as I normally would. I liked the Eras GA mainly because of the change to only two heroes in the third phase, which improved trooper gameplay in that phase. I also sincerely enjoyed seeing only mostly era-appropriate heroes on maps of that era (yet this event also stressed why we needed old Luke, Leia, Han, and Obi-Wan skins).
What the ROADMAP should look like for 2019/2020:
“Season” 4: Rogue One
“Season” 5: Clone Wars Revival
“Season” 6: Episode IX
Ahah you win
Yes, because I may disagree on the ones you pick, as it is subjective, therefore an opinion
Actually, I disagree. You see, there are games that are subjectively good, and then there are those that are factually, or objectively good, even if I don't like them. Like the band Queen for instance. It is a fact that they are a great band, even though I personally don't like them at all. It is a fact that the Witcher 3 is a great game, even though I think it's just okay. Final Fantasy XIII is a factually terrible game, even though I love it. General consensus is what makes something objectively good and not simply opinion.
Finn and Rey would like a word with you. Darth Tantrum and Chrome trashcan can't do anything for their team against these two.
...Unless the former suck to the point of having no business in multiplayer. (Or their teams are just that defective. That's always a possibility too.)
Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
"General consensus" is just lots of opinions, subjective statements cannot make objective ones
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just because a million people think something is good doesn’t necessarily mean it is.
What the ROADMAP should look like for 2019/2020:
“Season” 4: Rogue One
“Season” 5: Clone Wars Revival
“Season” 6: Episode IX
Am i trying to silence you? Who cares ? Devs stated that things won't change, no matter how you change the title of your threads, things won't change.
Comprehension is important. Reading rainbow-time! Never did I say MY immersion. I said it's the game's immersion. I just play the game, I don't cry about it. Difference.
Yeah, you're not a whiner. You hate the others opinion soo much you want to pretend that there are less than 100 people in the entire playerbase who understand that even Star Wars GAMES look sloppy and awful with all the assets jumbled together. But you feel you can put others down, pretend that THEY are crying, are very bad at the game (even though it seems like without a hero to pick then you dont have much to talk about). Because you need to feel like your're part of some "dominating majority" to let your ego feel like it has a safe identity to let you make shallow, self manufactured claims??
Patronization ("reading rainbow time!") shows a complete lack of "comprehension"....which you literally claimed was important. I suggest first learning to "comprehend" talking to people without the need to feel entitled and emotionally defensive about different types of players in this game which invites A VARIETY of players. Get over yourself....or get back to vanilla, cross era GA where you apparently feel so superior picking an OP "tank" in a casual game and one hitting infantry. Remember that version of the mode you have gotten to play nearly EVERY....single....day.....for over an entire year?? Congrats...those extremely difficult and hurtful three days are done now and you can go back to feeling superior.
For reasons including:
- Timing for Dooku
- Cheap hero prices
- Showing of bad map design if certain hero is not available
- Lack of heroes (Young Luke on Starkiller Base is not accurate, where is Poe?)
- Lack of era accurate skins (No old Han and so on)
This event should not return unless done properly or a mode with complete accuracy is made, with all correct guns, skins and heroes for its respective era.
No problem @JackTHorn. Even though we disagree on some issues, I do agree Infantry needs more, and this event put more emphasis on them.
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
You all did plenty of crying this weekend, if you ask me...
The rest of your post makes no sense. ”The game’s immersion”, what does that even mean?
Surely it was not about Eras ( just an easy PR spin ) but the easiest way to add a live test for less Heros and a GA event that was not HU yet again so quickly. Just editing numbers in file live service
"Timing for Dooku" - Unrelated to the event
"Cheap hero prices" - I agree, they should be more expensive
"Showing of bad map design if certain hero is not available " - Can slightly agree, but only because that is more related to the maps than the event itself
"Lack of heroes" - Unrelated to the event
"Lack of era accurate skins" - I agree
The biggest issue still for me was hero campers. With them being that cheap, the first couple who get them most of the time would sit back and refuse to push forward when attacking (PT was the worst for this, as everyone was attempting to get and then camp as Dooku). Essentially this then leaves a team disadvantaged with 18 vs 20, since the only thing the camping heroes would do was to sneak up and get the odd kill before sprinting to the back of the map again. Biggest example on Naboo last night - we were the Seps, 2 guys got Dooku and Maul quickly. didn't push up to stop the ion disruptors. Got to stage 2 and they firmly sat outside the Palace and didn't even attempt to move in. With 2 saber heroes refusing to do anything that literally left our team at 18 vs 20.
If it comes back, I would want to see heroes priced at regular price in their era, others unavailable. Would also like to see respective eras have bigger limits for heroes. I know ST can only have 2 vs 2 for fairness, but PT could have had 3 vs 3 and OT 4 vs 4. Should have done that.
Lack of heroes is not unrelated to the First Order at least, when the Resistance had Rey, Finn, Han, Leia, Luke and Chewbacca and all they got was Kylo and Phasma. That is a serious miss match when so many of the light side are better than those two.
This is quite possibly the worst part of GA in general. It was a little more glaring this weekend due players getting a hero in the first seconds of the match. And never really helping progress the game.
If we don’t win and those heroes didn’t help push the objective, that inflated kill total and points seen on the podium screen, holds zero weight to me. The first night I played a ton and got lucky to have teammates that didn’t do this. After that night it changed to what you basically described above.
There was really no reason at all to cut the cost. It did more harm than good. If anything they should have been more expensive, but then it would have been more of the same just a minute or two later into the match.
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Anyway, thank you DICE, I enjoyed it.
I believe the data they gathered during the event will prove that false. The games are much more ballanced when only 2 heroes are available.
This is one of the most silly resp I ever see. So if things don't change there is no need to have a forum, there is no need of our feedback. Bah..
When you take a bacta bath...
If it's more balanced, it's because of the smaller number of heroes, not because of era-locking. Either way, fewer heroes leads to hero hoarding, which would only cause more problems for many people.
Ah, I misread what you meant with that point, I do agree the ST needs more heroes, however, when you list that the LS heroes has 6 heroes and the DS only has 2, remember that only 2 heroes either side are allowed on at a time, so regardless of selection, it's still only 2v2. But yes, it would be great to have more to choice from than just 2, I blame this on the films rather than the game though.
I blame the game for having such an Imbalance between the two factions. Kylo and Phasma have no real chance against a Finn buffed Infantry team with another hero.
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
It was soooooo boring, honestly to me it was a flop.
I mean like honestly? Why would I ever need to use a boring dull hero that I don't even like just because Queen Iden Versace didn't exist in whatever map I am playing. So unnecessary. If anything they should bring that other event back where all the heroes could be played and where they were cheap so that there could always be a hero on the map.
Finally a voice of reason, however your voice will echo through a hollow space with a fractured surface at the other side and it will ricochet back to you when it reaches the other side.
Soooooo much drama over an event that only lasted for like three days (or whatever). I mean like let's just be honest here, we won't see it again for like some months from now ( if it ever returns, honestly I found it to be that boring) so there's not much of an issue here.
Anyway, I hope that there is a new mode that satisfies the needs of these people that want hero restrictions since the current ones clearly don't do that. Maybe in the future this will become a thing for you all.
Ahah very hilarious. So all the others battlefront games were boring? And this game is boring if on Geonosis you can't play as Vader Kylo or Boba Fett for example? You have anyway Maul, Grievous, Palpatine and Bossk, the game will be essentially the same but immersive. Are you able at least to understand how absurd is what you are saying? The fact is that this argument is become literally a ideologically argument.
Indeed the two verses two is right for the game mode/ GA overall, it's just the match-ups for ST that are bad for the FO.
Kylo and Phasma's best match up is Rey and Finn, as players can learn to fight against them, but allowing OT LS heroes bar Lando means a comp like Luke and Rey against K&P is God tier unfair. If FO had more counter option heroes it would be better.
No matter how absurd you think it is, it doesn't change how the opposite can be seen just as absurdly. Calling for hero restrictions to specific eras on certain maps. Please.
If they added such a mode, I wouldn't mind, just not on the GA one, I like it with all the heroes in them thanks.
Of course this whole argument is Ideological in nature, you people are talking about a video game. I mean hello? Not really a difficult thing to argue about.
For example, if they decided to give Jedi Queen Rey a red lightsaber I would absolutely love it. It would become her new saber color for me.
Anyway, I for one will continue to enjoy the cross hero play whenever I play GA and will continue to enjoy it for as long as it stays that way.
Your feedback? Less heroes are better and more balanced? That's your excuse to lock eras? Just lol. So It's better for you to lock eras instead to ask for a proper balanced gameplay ?
Don't make me laugh please.