Iden Versio needs a nerf

SpicyCurryO_O · February 8, 2019 5:33PM

Every light side HvV match I have lost has been because of Iden.

She needs a serious change or something.

KresusFIN · February 8, 2019 5:44PM

She cannot shoot inside her bubble. Run up and punch her.

LS blasters have more DPS than her. Shoot her back.

Shock Droid can be baited, and sabers can even ignore outright before killing her with R2R2R2R2R2.

So long as saber heroes continue to be R2R2R2, Iden remains a necessary force available. It's a shame that the LS doesn't have a copy of her, but in most cases, Han / Chewie / Lando will be able to provide the same role.

Lagodaki · February 8, 2019 6:13PM

Please look at my how to kill Iden thread, it might help you 😀

https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/129839/how-to-kill-iden-thread#latest

Admiral_Xen · February 8, 2019 6:27PM

KresusFIN wrote: »

She cannot shoot inside her bubble. Run up and punch her.

LS blasters have more DPS than her. Shoot her back.

Shock Droid can be baited, and sabers can even ignore outright before killing her with R2R2R2R2R2.

So long as saber heroes continue to be R2R2R2, Iden remains a necessary force available. It's a shame that the LS doesn't have a copy of her, but in most cases, Han / Chewie / Lando will be able to provide the same role.

Yep.

I'd normally say the droid batteries card needs fixed to give it's on paper value of 25% rather than 70% cooldown....

But sabers can stunlock and damage you simply by mashing one button and sort of keeping their character model within 10m of you (not even pointing in the right direction)

so getting .7 second stun every 6 seconds (assuming you do nothing to dodge it) is nothing by comparison and totally fine in the current post Dooku lightmagnent meta.

I'm going to play Iden regardless, but my rule is put away your cheesy glowbat and I'll put away Dio's extra batteries.

BucksawBoushh · February 8, 2019 6:29PM

No she doesn’t. Ugh.

TjPunx · February 8, 2019 7:07PM

She’s fine. All I hear is, I got killed by a player running Iden. Please nerf, instead of me learning how to play against her (or any other character)

Raylol · February 8, 2019 7:19PM

She’s fine in HvV, but overpowered as hell im HS.

Darth_Vapor3 · February 8, 2019 7:20PM

She’s a hard counter for all LS blasters. She’s quality against sabers, but disadvantaged. All she needs is her droid cool down bug to be fixed. Bottom line, a skilled player can do very well with her. The same goes for all LS blasters.

ZephanUnbound · February 8, 2019 7:27PM

No, she has already been nerfed quite alot since release and is in a pretty good place right now, with 1 exception, the bug on her stun cooldown decrease star card needs to be fixed so that the cooldown is the proper 15 seconds instead of 5 seconds.

Majike · February 8, 2019 7:30PM

While I find Iden to be somewhat unrealistically competent compared to the film heroes (if someone is playing Iden, you can bet she'll be one of the match's top players), the only thing I think she needs is some sort of emote gag.
EVERYONE who plays Iden seems compelled to spam 'Avenge our emperor!' at least several times during the match. That emote-spamming alone has made me really hate Iden - not her competency as a hero - despite me liking her when I played through the campaign, because I know whenever I see her, that darn emote is going to rear its shouty head again.

KresusFIN · February 8, 2019 7:36PM

Majike wrote: »

While I find Iden to be somewhat unrealistically competent compared to the film heroes (if someone is playing Iden, you can bet she'll be one of the match's top players), the only thing I think she needs is some sort of emote gag.
EVERYONE who plays Iden seems compelled to spam 'Avenge our emperor!' at least several times during the match. That emote-spamming alone has made me really hate Iden - not her competency as a hero - despite me liking her when I played through the campaign, because I know whenever I see her, that darn emote is going to rear its shouty head again.

Nobody ever expects Special Forces

superdood92 · February 8, 2019 7:41PM

Raylol wrote: »

She’s fine in HvV, but overpowered as hell im HS.

this is why the winning team can only win with certain heroes one time. Light side has Han which is also very good in HS, imo.

Admiral_Xen · February 8, 2019 7:53PM

Majike wrote: »

While I find Iden to be somewhat unrealistically competent compared to the film heroes (if someone is playing Iden, you can bet she'll be one of the match's top players), the only thing I think she needs is some sort of emote gag.
EVERYONE who plays Iden seems compelled to spam 'Avenge our emperor!' at least several times during the match. That emote-spamming alone has made me really hate Iden - not her competency as a hero - despite me liking her when I played through the campaign, because I know whenever I see her, that darn emote is going to rear its shouty head again.

How is a veteran Imperial commando unrealistically competent compared to a gambler, a scoundrel or a senator?

Because if I just went and found the local drunk/gambler and made them fight a navy seal or spetznaz, they probably wouldn't do too well.

*That assuming they aren't one and the same person which they probably are.

and I'll have you know I spam the "special forces" emote more than any other. The Emperor one only gets spammed on immersion weekends when he's running around the game with me, or when he was killswitched.

WoodydaCuakB · February 8, 2019 8:08PM

Nah she's fine.

I don't know about you guys experienced with Iden but I never use the Pulse Cannon, takes forever to charge.

Also the alternate fire, I would prefer a scope instead of that small blast, blaster is useless past med range.

awakespace · February 8, 2019 8:14PM

she's fine as is

TjPunx · February 8, 2019 8:43PM

She is fine as she is. I ever use the pulse cannon, and droid stun is especially fine as it is

Legolas79391 · February 8, 2019 8:45PM

She's op, but it’s Iden so I don't mind.

Empire_TW · February 8, 2019 8:46PM

Another one of these...

Majike wrote: »

While I find Iden to be somewhat unrealistically competent compared to the film heroes (if someone is playing Iden, you can bet she'll be one of the match's top players), the only thing I think she needs is some sort of emote gag.
EVERYONE who plays Iden seems compelled to spam 'Avenge our emperor!' at least several times during the match. That emote-spamming alone has made me really hate Iden - not her competency as a hero - despite me liking her when I played through the campaign, because I know whenever I see her, that darn emote is going to rear its shouty head again.

I have never used that emote...

Voter_Colonel · February 8, 2019 8:51PM

Majike wrote: »

While I find Iden to be somewhat unrealistically competent compared to the film heroes (if someone is playing Iden, you can bet she'll be one of the match's top players), the only thing I think she needs is some sort of emote gag.
EVERYONE who plays Iden seems compelled to spam 'Avenge our emperor!' at least several times during the match. That emote-spamming alone has made me really hate Iden - not her competency as a hero - despite me liking her when I played through the campaign, because I know whenever I see her, that darn emote is going to rear its shouty head again.

Where do you stand on Kylos who constantly yell "COWARDS!"?

KresusFIN · February 8, 2019 11:17PM

Voter_Colonel wrote: »

Majike wrote: »

While I find Iden to be somewhat unrealistically competent compared to the film heroes (if someone is playing Iden, you can bet she'll be one of the match's top players), the only thing I think she needs is some sort of emote gag.
EVERYONE who plays Iden seems compelled to spam 'Avenge our emperor!' at least several times during the match. That emote-spamming alone has made me really hate Iden - not her competency as a hero - despite me liking her when I played through the campaign, because I know whenever I see her, that darn emote is going to rear its shouty head again.

Where do you stand on Kylos who constantly yell "COWARDS!"?

I raise you:

The Kylos who truly are cowards, running away whenever they're the target AND spam that emote when they manage to catch the pursuers in a freeze?

Liz4rD · February 9, 2019 12:04AM

No, she doesn't. At all.

chewielovesu · February 9, 2019 12:13AM

Another Audacious but futile attempt to nerf the Queen!

Prepare Thyself to receive some Royal spanking

Captain Phasma "My Pleasure..."

*sounds of metal and OP screams heard in the distant background*

Empire_TW · February 9, 2019 4:31AM

chewielovesu wrote: »

Another Audacious but futile attempt to nerf the Queen!

Prepare Thyself to receive some Royal spanking

Captain Phasma "My Pleasure..."

*sounds of metal and OP screams heard in the distant background*

^This

TjPunx · February 9, 2019 4:42AM

Voter_Colonel wrote: »

Majike wrote: »

While I find Iden to be somewhat unrealistically competent compared to the film heroes (if someone is playing Iden, you can bet she'll be one of the match's top players), the only thing I think she needs is some sort of emote gag.
EVERYONE who plays Iden seems compelled to spam 'Avenge our emperor!' at least several times during the match. That emote-spamming alone has made me really hate Iden - not her competency as a hero - despite me liking her when I played through the campaign, because I know whenever I see her, that darn emote is going to rear its shouty head again.

Where do you stand on Kylos who constantly yell "COWARDS!"?

I love constantly spamming this when using Kylo

WarfareKiller41 · February 9, 2019 6:10AM

No, she is very fragile and easy to kill. Running headfirst into her stun is in most situations, your own fault

hsf_ · February 9, 2019 6:26AM

Stun mechanics are vomit in this game.
In all honesty, the stuns should work like the officer thing which disables weapons and also have the effect of the specialist shock grenade. That would be more balanced. It should also work against light sabres - turning them off temporarily making them vunerable, but not useless.
That or they should break on damage immediately. This way the stuns will be used for tactical reasons, rather than spammed like it's going out of fashion.

VaperEyes · February 9, 2019 7:46AM

SpiceyCurry looking for a Troll Fiesta Meal...
New Menu Items
Boba Fett (Early Lunch with Soup)
Cpt. Phasma (Late Supper / Dinner - bring spoon)
Iden Version (Appetizer - Served All Day)

Wolfman91 · February 9, 2019 12:17PM

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

Jabba_Fett97 · February 9, 2019 12:25PM

Iden is far from overpowered and doesn't need to be nerfed or buffed. There are easy counters for her. I don't understand the beef ?

KresusFIN · February 9, 2019 12:34PM

Wolfman91 wrote: »

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

Considering how easy it is to outright ignore, bait, or counter, yes. Yes it is.

Admiral_Xen · February 9, 2019 2:04PM

WoodydaCuakB wrote: »

Nah she's fine.

I don't know about you guys experienced with Iden but I never use the Pulse Cannon, takes forever to charge.

Also the alternate fire, I would prefer a scope instead of that small blast, blaster is useless past med range.

Pulse cannon charge time is .6 second and does 362 damage on headshot. Also one shots troopers in the body.

It always causes lols. People don't expect to get instantly whacked from across the map especially as heroes.

also her pro pipe secondary fire is amazing. Breaks down saber blocks and one hit kills 150 health.

KresusFIN wrote: »

Wolfman91 wrote: »

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

Considering how easy it is to outright ignore, bait, or counter, yes. Yes it is.

to the point where it's essentially a feature rather than a bug anymore.

Mechanically, it's really not much different than Phasma's droid (which shocks even more frequently) except it's mobile but can be dodged or saber blocked.

Well, that and it's attached to a hero that actually has a gun with decent killing power rather than one that merits a Darwin award if you lose to 1v1.

Honestly I've been using Chewie a bit for the first time since they made it not embarrassing to be seen playing him, and his stun is still waaaayyy better.

Doesn't matter your skill, you aren't dodging it, especially given you can ground slam first to set it up if necessary, and the cooldown being a little bit longer is irrelevant when your whole team has to spend it running back to the fight from the respawn screen they just got put in by one single hero using one ability cycle.

KresusFIN · February 9, 2019 2:08PM

Admiral_Xen wrote: »

Honestly I've been using Chewie a bit for the first time since they made it not embarrassing to be seen playing him, and his stun is still waaaayyy better.

Doesn't matter your skill, you aren't dodging it, especially given you can ground slam first to set it up if necessary, and the cooldown being a little bit longer is irrelevant when your whole team has to spend it running back to the fight from the respawn screen they just got put in by one single hero using one ability cycle.

And then you're paired with a Big Deal and the thing charges up fast enough severely injure a 4 v 2 if they're braindead

Admiral_Xen · February 9, 2019 2:16PM

KresusFIN wrote: »

Admiral_Xen wrote: »

Honestly I've been using Chewie a bit for the first time since they made it not embarrassing to be seen playing him, and his stun is still waaaayyy better.

Doesn't matter your skill, you aren't dodging it, especially given you can ground slam first to set it up if necessary, and the cooldown being a little bit longer is irrelevant when your whole team has to spend it running back to the fight from the respawn screen they just got put in by one single hero using one ability cycle.

And then you're paired with a Big Deal and the thing charges up fast enough severely injure a 4 v 2 if they're braindead

Yeah 1440HP Chewie with like 10 second CDs on FB/Stun/Slam should not be a thing that is possible in the game lol.

Oh and if there's also a Han/Lando who can aim well and throw their own cheeseball at the same frequency it's usually GG no re if they run you over and split you up in the first engagement.

DS is still better due to the spawns, target system and Boba, but you can output much cancer with the right LS comp.

Thechosen1_anakin · February 9, 2019 3:15PM

As someone who recently fell in love with her, she needs a nerf & by nerf I mean fix her droid card. Other than that she's fine.... oh almost forgot he shield should not have 700 health other than that she's fine. Btw if you're lando or chewie stun her & walk into her bubble and shoot her. Pro tip

Admiral_Xen · February 9, 2019 3:34PM

Thechosen1_anakin wrote: »

Btw if you're lando or chewie stun her & walk into her bubble and shoot her. Pro tip

Yep, easy way to beat her, yet most Lando/Chewie I see melee when I put up the bubble and free me from the stun

Icedragon7897 · February 9, 2019 3:49PM

Wolfman91 wrote: »

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

There is no bug and is working as intended, any nerf to her will cripple her at this point as they no longer buff while nerfing anymore, so do as we all do and adapt

Thechosen1_anakin · February 9, 2019 4:00PM

Icedragon7897 wrote: »

Wolfman91 wrote: »

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

There is no bug and is working as intended, any nerf to her will cripple her at this point as they no longer buff while nerfing anymore, so do as we all do and adapt

Nah it's a bug

Admiral_Xen · February 9, 2019 4:10PM

VaperEyes wrote: »

SpiceyCurry looking for a Troll Fiesta Meal...
New Menu Items
Boba Fett (Early Lunch with Soup)
Cpt. Phasma (Late Supper / Dinner - bring spoon)
Iden Versio (Appetizer - Served All Day)

You forgot Spin Lord Palpatine (finely aged brut Champagne, pairs great with salty dishes)

johnny_mercury · February 9, 2019 4:44PM

Thechosen1_anakin wrote: »

As someone who recently fell in love with her, she needs a nerf & by nerf I mean fix her droid card. Other than that she's fine.... oh almost forgot he shield should not have 700 health other than that she's fine. Btw if you're lando or chewie stun her & walk into her bubble and shoot her. Pro tip

I agree with these points. I feel dirty using her in HvV as she's incredibly nooby.

I'll add that her secondary fire should have a reduced aoe, so there's at least some skill involved. I've hit a wall 10 feet to the side of a character and still hit them, ha ha ha.

TjPunx · February 9, 2019 4:47PM

Iden is fine as she is. Players just have to learn how to play the game better. If you can’t kill her then maybe you should practice in arcade more

unit900000 · February 9, 2019 4:55PM

she mainly just needs her cool down on her stun fixed so its the correct time with the card on.

Jett_Fett_91166 · February 9, 2019 5:21PM

Iden is fine as is. What Iden and her troopers do need is to have an mp map of Vardos to play on. DICE needs to stop "adjusting" heroes and create new maps for mp and adding Vardos would be a good start.

Legolas79391 · February 9, 2019 5:33PM

Thechosen1_anakin wrote: »

Icedragon7897 wrote: »

Wolfman91 wrote: »

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

There is no bug and is working as intended, any nerf to her will cripple her at this point as they no longer buff while nerfing anymore, so do as we all do and adapt

Nah it's a bug

It's not a bug, it's a feature

Clone201 · February 9, 2019 6:09PM

Thechosen1_anakin wrote: »

As someone who recently fell in love with her, she needs a nerf & by nerf I mean fix her droid card. Other than that she's fine.... oh almost forgot he shield should not have 700 health other than that she's fine. Btw if you're lando or chewie stun her & walk into her bubble and shoot her. Pro tip

The shield actually has 800 health. It's a bullet sponge...

Lagodaki · February 9, 2019 6:23PM

Admiral_Xen wrote: »

WoodydaCuakB wrote: »

Nah she's fine.

I don't know about you guys experienced with Iden but I never use the Pulse Cannon, takes forever to charge.

Also the alternate fire, I would prefer a scope instead of that small blast, blaster is useless past med range.

Pulse cannon charge time is 1 second and gives you 362 damage on a headshot. Also one shots troopers in the body.

It always causes lols. People don't expect to get instantly whacked from across the map especially as heroes.

also her pro pipe secondary fire is amazing. Breaks down saber blocks and one hit kills 150 health.

KresusFIN wrote: »

Wolfman91 wrote: »

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

Considering how easy it is to outright ignore, bait, or counter, yes. Yes it is.

to the point where it's essentially a feature rather than a bug anymore.

Mechanically, it's really not much different than Phasma's droid (which shocks even more frequently) except it's mobile but can be dodged or saber blocked.

Well, that and it's attached to a hero that actually has a gun with decent killing power rather than one that merits a Darwin award if you lose to 1v1.

Honestly I've been using Chewie a bit for the first time since they made it not embarrassing to be seen playing him, and his stun is still waaaayyy better.

Doesn't matter your skill, you aren't dodging it, especially given you can ground slam first to set it up if necessary, and the cooldown being a little bit longer is irrelevant when your whole team has to spend it running back to the fight from the respawn screen they just got put in by one single hero using one ability cycle.

Lol I always laugh when I get killed by the pulse cannon as a hero. It's like, good someone can actually use that

Raylol · February 9, 2019 7:32PM

Can believe there are people saying she it’s fine.

Jabba_Fett97 · February 9, 2019 7:37PM

She is fine.

Fin.

Icedragon7897 · February 9, 2019 7:40PM

Thechosen1_anakin wrote: »

Icedragon7897 wrote: »

Wolfman91 wrote: »

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

There is no bug and is working as intended, any nerf to her will cripple her at this point as they no longer buff while nerfing anymore, so do as we all do and adapt

Nah it's a bug

Got any proof of this?

Thechosen1_anakin · February 9, 2019 7:48PM

Icedragon7897 wrote: »

Thechosen1_anakin wrote: »

Icedragon7897 wrote: »

Wolfman91 wrote: »

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

There is no bug and is working as intended, any nerf to her will cripple her at this point as they no longer buff while nerfing anymore, so do as we all do and adapt

Nah it's a bug

Got any proof of this?

You got any proof it is? It's Supposed to be 15 seconds not six

Clone201 · February 9, 2019 8:52PM

Thechosen1_anakin wrote: »

Icedragon7897 wrote: »

Thechosen1_anakin wrote: »

Icedragon7897 wrote: »

Wolfman91 wrote: »

So her ridiculous droid cool down bug is ok for most of you guys ? ;v

There is no bug and is working as intended, any nerf to her will cripple her at this point as they no longer buff while nerfing anymore, so do as we all do and adapt

Nah it's a bug

Got any proof of this?

You got any proof it is? It's Supposed to be 15 seconds not six

Yeah, it's not so working as intended. It would of been 15 seconds had the game's code been correct the whole time.

Wolfman91 · February 9, 2019 9:52PM

It's a freaking bug that needs to be fixed. Stuns are overpowered in this game. Iden, Lando, Chewie or Kylo (with teammates) can melt any hero in a matter of seconds. And she can use it every few seconds.

Lightsabers are buggy as hell too. Sometimes you can saber lock someone, but also a lot of times (right now) sabers don't deal damage in close quarter situation.

Iden Versio needs a nerf

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