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Nugmilk
49 posts Member
edited February 21
so we're gonna have rainbow clones and phase 1 and 2 troopers in the same match. so much for the last bit of immersion that was left in GA...

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  • Continuity and immersion was never a thing. Just go with the flow and you'll feel better. Take this game as the arcadey thing it is, rather than a movie to game recreation.
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  • Continuity and immersion was never a thing. Just go with the flow and you'll feel better. Take this game as the arcadey thing it is, rather than a movie to game recreation.

    But it could've been and it was supposed to be. DICE clearly don't care anymore, so I guess why should we? These are just the death throes of a game that is barely clinging to life.
    BF2015 is looking really good by comparison these days. A solid foundation that has been all but shattered.
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  • Amazing, this "fix" for a non-issue has turned into another non-issue.
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  • Weird feedback. Not have I ONCE seen a thread or even a comment about wanting to use a Phase I Clone on a Phase II planet. I’m not a fan of rainbow Clones and I honestly thought this update would tighten up the customization if anything. Weak.
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  • Continuity and immersion was never a thing. Just go with the flow and you'll feel better. Take this game as the arcadey thing it is, rather than a movie to game recreation.

    But it could've been and it was supposed to be. DICE clearly don't care anymore, so I guess why should we? These are just the death throes of a game that is barely clinging to life.
    BF2015 is looking really good by comparison these days. A solid foundation that has been all but shattered.

    BF2015 might have heroes in the right era, but it's still not a strict canon adherence. Jump packs, skins, bacta bombs, villains running around on Jabbas Palace even though it's setting is AFTER ROTJ.

    All Battlefront games are like this; Star Wars based multiplayer shooter taking place among iconic locations, featuring your favorite heroes.

    It was a mistake for DICE or EA to even mention "canon" or "correct era" when none of the games ever did.

    To do so would require a new game built from the ground up, some company willing to take continuity into consideration.
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  • Ay DICE, I know you tryna "innovate", and all, but literally NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS. You didn't have to do this.
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  • rollind24
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    edited February 21
    I don’t get it. Different skins for Phase 1 and 2 on GA? Of course it’d be the same match.
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  • rollind24 wrote: »
    I don’t get it. Different skins for Phase 1 and 2 on GA? Of course it’d be the same match.

    Phase 1 meaning the clone armor we see on Attack of the Clones
    Phase 2 (?) From Revenge of the Sith.
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  • rollind24 wrote: »
    I don’t get it. Different skins for Phase 1 and 2 on GA? Of course it’d be the same match.

    Phase 1 meaning the clone armor we see on Attack of the Clones
    Phase 2 (?) From Revenge of the Sith.

    Correct
  • It's ridiculous. Literally no one asked for it. Everything else looks so good. They just had to throw a wrench in their own gears.
  • Come on everyone want trooper customization. They starting with PT. Then it will be a crap load for OT then ST last. And frankly I was hoping for something like this! What if I want to be a brand new shinny or a phase 2 212th on kamino should I get a choice yes. The more the merrier that's what I say. If they gave you a Wookie legion for kyyyshek would you be happy? What if someone wanted their Wookie sniper on Crait? Would you be mad? Wookie live for a very long time. But the only Wookie we see in the ST is Chewy. Is he the last one? Nope? It's a game.
  • JawaLover
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    edited February 21
    I agree stupid change. *EDIT* Cross era heroes adds to gameplay. Mixing phase 1 and 2 clone troopers does not add to gameplay it only breaks the immersion.
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  • Nugmilk wrote: »
    so we're gonna have rainbow clones and phase 1 and 2 troopers in the same match. so much for the last bit of immersion that was left in GA...

    I dont Play any of the PT maps so cant say it will brother me in game. What does brother me is that devs waste time on this when Empire and FO customization is not done.
  • Rebel pilot next please!
  • Smattonellus
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    edited February 21
    CeymalRen wrote: »
    Nugmilk wrote: »
    so we're gonna have rainbow clones and phase 1 and 2 troopers in the same match. so much for the last bit of immersion that was left in GA...

    I dont Play any of the PT maps so cant say it will brother me in game. What does brother me is that devs waste time on this when Empire and FO customization is not done.

    Not that first oder actually has many options.
  • Continuity and immersion was never a thing. Just go with the flow and you'll feel better. Take this game as the arcadey thing it is, rather than a movie to game recreation.

    But it could've been and it was supposed to be. DICE clearly don't care anymore, so I guess why should we? These are just the death throes of a game that is barely clinging to life.
    BF2015 is looking really good by comparison these days. A solid foundation that has been all but shattered.

    Yeah, because the 1st game is ALL about immersion and continuity XD Good joke, bud. Next time I'll remember that when shore troopers are on Hoth with the Emperor and Bossk.
  • You’re surprised by this?
  • Weird feedback. Not have I ONCE seen a thread or even a comment about wanting to use a Phase I Clone on a Phase II planet. I’m not a fan of rainbow Clones and I honestly thought this update would tighten up the customization if anything. Weak.

    But do you know where this change has been met with near universal praise? Reddit. DICE are listening to the Reddit crowd who have the worst suggestions, ideas, concepts, and takes on this game and now it's actually infecting this game.
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  • Continuity and immersion was never a thing. Just go with the flow and you'll feel better. Take this game as the arcadey thing it is, rather than a movie to game recreation.

    But it could've been and it was supposed to be. DICE clearly don't care anymore, so I guess why should we? These are just the death throes of a game that is barely clinging to life.
    BF2015 is looking really good by comparison these days. A solid foundation that has been all but shattered.

    BF2015 might have heroes in the right era, but it's still not a strict canon adherence. Jump packs, skins, bacta bombs, villains running around on Jabbas Palace even though it's setting is AFTER ROTJ.

    All Battlefront games are like this; Star Wars based multiplayer shooter taking place among iconic locations, featuring your favorite heroes.

    It was a mistake for DICE or EA to even mention "canon" or "correct era" when none of the games ever did.

    To do so would require a new game built from the ground up, some company willing to take continuity into consideration.
    Continuity and immersion was never a thing. Just go with the flow and you'll feel better. Take this game as the arcadey thing it is, rather than a movie to game recreation.

    But it could've been and it was supposed to be. DICE clearly don't care anymore, so I guess why should we? These are just the death throes of a game that is barely clinging to life.
    BF2015 is looking really good by comparison these days. A solid foundation that has been all but shattered.

    Yeah, because the 1st game is ALL about immersion and continuity XD Good joke, bud. Next time I'll remember that when shore troopers are on Hoth with the Emperor and Bossk.

    The customisation in BF2015 was also weak, yes, but many people including myself expected them to tighten that **** up in this game because DICE surely remembers all the complaints about Bespin Wing Guards on Hoth and Shoretroopers on the Death Star, but now they're doing it again.
    There are so many ways that this game could have maintained a level of canon accuracy with both skins and heroes for all eras and provided players with lots of choice. But a rushed production schedule meant they didn't have enough time to put in enough heroes at launch, the appearances system is weaker than the first game because it's still just simple skin swaps and they've locked genders to certain classes, and clearly the diminished development team isn't capable of making any significant changes so they've split Phase I and Phase II into separately purchaseable and usable skins and are trying to pass it off as "substantial".
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  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    It's ridiculous. Literally no one asked for it. Everything else looks so good. They just had to throw a wrench in their own gears.

    I couldn't say it better, 100% agreed
  • “We worked closely with Lucasfilm”

    *proceeds to allow phase 1 and 2 on the same planets*
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  • People, we don't always have to be asked for stuff, sometimes they come with their own, and i think it is nice that we get more selective oppunities now.
  • Y'all cried and cried and cried for clone customization but what you really wanted was what, canon uniformity? Pick one.
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  • Atreus213 wrote: »
    Y'all cried and cried and cried for clone customization but what you really wanted was what, canon uniformity? Pick one.

    Um...yes. Those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive and are exactly what could've been done.
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  • They took something we already had for free, and split it off to resell it to us for 20 credits a pop.

    That's like taking the Snowtrooper skins we already have for free, and separating them, then offering them to players for 20k credits, and allowing Hoth (and every other OT map) to be filled with a jumbled mix of Snowtroopers and regular Stormtroopers.

    And then sitting back to watch people praise them for "adding content".
  • Don't see how this is worse than Shoretroopers and Bespin wing guards on Hoth in the last game. Not a big deal at all.
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  • JackTHorn wrote: »
    They took something we already had for free, and split it off to resell it to us for 20 credits a pop.

    That's like taking the Snowtrooper skins we already have for free, and separating them, then offering them to players for 20k credits, and allowing Hoth (and every other OT map) to be filled with a jumbled mix of Snowtroopers and regular Stormtroopers.

    And then sitting back to watch people praise them for "adding content".

    Oh God, please don't give them any ideas. It's bad enough already without imagining Snowtroopers on Tatooine.
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  • Don't see how this is worse than Shoretroopers and Bespin wing guards on Hoth in the last game. Not a big deal at all.
    It's not worse. It just as ridiculously bad. And it will be more prevalent.
  • BucksawBoushh
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    edited February 21
    What a waste of development time. The CW needs to end.
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  • What a waste of development time. The CW needs to end.

    I wish they would have used this effort to create some CW maps, and I as a fan of this era, would have been satisfied but until we get maps the CW Era demand won’t end. Just 2 more CW maps and then I’d say move on to the OT and ST, especially for space maps.
  • The_Count wrote: »
    What a waste of development time. The CW needs to end.

    I wish they would have used this effort to create some CW maps, and I as a fan of this era, would have been satisfied but until we get maps the CW Era demand won’t end. Just 2 more CW maps and then I’d say move on to the OT and ST, especially for space maps.

    I would be very into new maps.
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  • bfloo
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    What a waste of development time. The CW needs to end.

    They spent months on this instead of new maps, weapons or anything to make the game better

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    This new mode better have a minimum of 3 maps after being pushed back twice for this
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  • HeavyTeemu
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    edited February 21
    I learned to cope with these immersion braking additions.

    Instead of treating this game as proper authentic star wars experience, I see it more like a fan made mashup of all good stuff in star wars.

    Still would prefer era appropriate weapons, skins, heroes over this stuff but it seems they are more dedicated in destroying any immersion this game might have.


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  • The truth is while playing you will hardly notice what other people will be wearing, and you can go canon as much as you like. The difference between phase I and II is in the helmet and some markings, nothing so noticeable to justify all these complaints, you cry for something that won't affect by any means your gameplay experience. Likely you are the same guys who pick Rey and the Emperor in any era anyway.
  • It would be nice if people wouldnt whine about "my immersion" you got kylo killing clones there was no immersion in the first place. We're lucky to even get this amount of customization considering who made and published this game.
  • KazBurgers wrote: »
    It would be nice if people wouldnt whine about "my immersion" you got kylo killing clones there was no immersion in the first place. We're lucky to even get this amount of customization considering who made and published this game.

    People still complain about that. It's not an issue that's gone away, people just know it's not going to go away so there's no point in bringing it up anymore. But this latest change just makes matters worse.
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  • Don't see how this is worse than Shoretroopers and Bespin wing guards on Hoth in the last game. Not a big deal at all.

    It's actually just as bad and that's the problem. DICE don't seem to be learning from their mistakes.

    I disagree. There's an obvious visual difference between a stormtrooper and a snowtrooper or a twi'lek headed (but male body) wing guard vs standard rebel trooper.

    Phase 1 and 2? One of them has a mohawk or something? Apart from that they both look like discount stormtroopers.

    Also they aren't specific environmental variants so there's no reason they couldn't show up anywhere (as opposed to say snowtroopers on Tatooine or shoretroopers on Hoth which is obviously silly). Maybe not every unit got the new armor? Maybe some were prototyping it early on?
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  • Don't see how this is worse than Shoretroopers and Bespin wing guards on Hoth in the last game. Not a big deal at all.

    It's actually just as bad and that's the problem. DICE don't seem to be learning from their mistakes.

    I disagree. There's an obvious visual difference between a stormtrooper and a snowtrooper or a twi'lek headed (but male body) wing guard vs standard rebel trooper.

    Phase 1 and 2? One of them has a mohawk or something? Apart from that they both look like discount stormtroopers.

    Also they aren't specific environmental variants so there's no reason they couldn't show up anywhere (as opposed to say snowtroopers on Tatooine or shoretroopers on Hoth which is obviously silly). Maybe not every unit got the new armor? Maybe some were prototyping it early on?

    But contextually they are wrong. The Geonosis GA scenario is meant to be either a battle from the first or second conflict on Geonosis, both of which took place at a time when the clones were using Phase I armour; the Kamino scenario is a psuedo recreation of a battle from TCW (Season 3, Ep 2: "ARC Troopers") where the clones still wore Phase I as standard, and the Kashyyyk scenario is meant to be a secondary attack by the Separatists after the one seen in Ep III which was a time when Phase II was the standard. So canonically and contextually, Phase I and II have their place in certain battles in exactly the same way that environmentally specific armours have their place for the Stormtroopers and First Order troopers.
    Ultimately though, this has been done for nothing more than scoring some cheap points by making it seem like they're adding more content and choice when they're really just muddying things up even more.
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  • DarthJ
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    Just been shown this:

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    So yeah no scout helmet for 41st
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  • Don't see how this is worse than Shoretroopers and Bespin wing guards on Hoth in the last game. Not a big deal at all.

    It's actually just as bad and that's the problem. DICE don't seem to be learning from their mistakes.

    I disagree. There's an obvious visual difference between a stormtrooper and a snowtrooper or a twi'lek headed (but male body) wing guard vs standard rebel trooper.

    Phase 1 and 2? One of them has a mohawk or something? Apart from that they both look like discount stormtroopers.

    Also they aren't specific environmental variants so there's no reason they couldn't show up anywhere (as opposed to say snowtroopers on Tatooine or shoretroopers on Hoth which is obviously silly). Maybe not every unit got the new armor? Maybe some were prototyping it early on?

    Kinda how I see it. This is no where near seeing Shoretroopers on Hoth.
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  • bfloo
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    Piscettios wrote: »
    Don't see how this is worse than Shoretroopers and Bespin wing guards on Hoth in the last game. Not a big deal at all.

    It's actually just as bad and that's the problem. DICE don't seem to be learning from their mistakes.

    I disagree. There's an obvious visual difference between a stormtrooper and a snowtrooper or a twi'lek headed (but male body) wing guard vs standard rebel trooper.

    Phase 1 and 2? One of them has a mohawk or something? Apart from that they both look like discount stormtroopers.

    Also they aren't specific environmental variants so there's no reason they couldn't show up anywhere (as opposed to say snowtroopers on Tatooine or shoretroopers on Hoth which is obviously silly). Maybe not every unit got the new armor? Maybe some were prototyping it early on?

    Kinda how I see it. This is no where near seeing Shoretroopers on Hoth.

    At least the uproar over this is entertaining.
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  • The truth is while playing you will hardly notice what other people will be wearing, and you can go canon as much as you like.
    You may not notice things like that, but I certainly do, it's all I can see sometimes. And most of my friends who play feel this way, too. Heroes from 60 years in the future or past, Luke in arctic gear in the sweltering desert, clone legions all mixed up and fighting together, and now this.

    Likely you are the same guys who pick Rey and the Emperor in any era anyway.
    What do you base that on? Actually, we're mostly the guys who don't play Heroes often or at all. Largely because we're suck of seeing them in the wrong factions and time-periods.
  • This game is not about keeping canon and immersion its a multiplayer battlefield star wars game.
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