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hsf_
1817 posts Member
They don't put the time or effort in to get good at the game, they want instant gratification.

Don't pander to them because they are **** at the game. Thank you.

#gitgud #madcuzbad #playhardgopro

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  • DarthJ
    6461 posts Member
    Too late, they are nerfing him :neutral:
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  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    DarthJ wrote: »
    Too late, they are nerfing him :neutral:

    Ridiculous.
  • I agree. Giving those casuals an OP hero with a nuke attack was a mistake.
  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    edited March 1
    CeymalRen wrote: »
    I agree. Giving those casuals an OP hero with a nuke attack was a mistake.
    Anakin is fine, if you're stupid enough to be hitting him while he's charging Heroic Might, then you deserve to be defeated.

  • DarthJ
    6461 posts Member
    CeymalRen wrote: »
    I agree. Giving those casuals an OP hero with a nuke attack was a mistake.

    Wonder what you nerf lovers will complain about next when something else beats you in the game
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  • And the casuals win again
  • hsf_ wrote: »
    They don't put the time or effort in to get good at the game, they want instant gratification.

    Don't pander to them because they are **** at the game. Thank you.

    #gitgud #madcuzbad #playhardgopro

    Is this coming from the defense of using the most OP super casual easy kill streak Hero ever put into this game???

    I would say....Dice, stop pandering to casuals, stop introducing ridiculous one button OHK mechanic Heros into a game that is already struggling with balance of Hero presence.
  • DarthJ wrote: »
    CeymalRen wrote: »
    I agree. Giving those casuals an OP hero with a nuke attack was a mistake.

    Wonder what you nerf lovers will complain about next when something else beats you in the game

    I get killed a lot by a lot of things. Nothing as broken as this.
  • I also like playing against him, he isn't impossible to beat. I already knew they are nerfing him, he is ultimate Light Side superhero, but going to be only another weak hero after nerfing, then Dark Side will rule again, though Dark Side still rules through him.
  • GenxDarchi
    7721 posts Member
    hsf_ wrote: »
    hsf_ wrote: »
    They don't put the time or effort in to get good at the game, they want instant gratification.

    Don't pander to them because they are **** at the game. Thank you.

    #gitgud #madcuzbad #playhardgopro

    Is this coming from the defense of using the most OP super casual easy kill streak Hero ever put into this game???

    I would say....Dice, stop pandering to casuals, stop introducing ridiculous one button OHK mechanic Heros into a game that is already struggling with balance of Hero presence.

    You know if you see an enemy, you don't have to engage right? You can just wait for him to finish charging his heroic might and attack him then? Is it really that difficult to stop and ask yourself "why is anakin standing still?"

    And in this game, it's so easy to bait people into prematurely blowing their load(force powers).

    Exactly. +1
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  • hsf_ wrote: »
    They don't put the time or effort in to get good at the game, they want instant gratification.

    Don't pander to them because they are **** at the game. Thank you.

    #gitgud #madcuzbad #playhardgopro

    Don’t pander to any players. Just produce a good product that works and is for for purpose.
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  • Zirius
    231 posts Member
    hsf_ wrote: »
    They don't put the time or effort in to get good at the game, they want instant gratification.

    Don't pander to them because they are **** at the game. Thank you.

    #gitgud #madcuzbad #playhardgopro

    Well some of them maybe don't really have much time to play and "gitpro" at the game because work? Real life? Maybe take this into consideration as well. Surely there are ppl who are playing only for fun too.
  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    edited March 1
    Zirius wrote: »
    hsf_ wrote: »
    They don't put the time or effort in to get good at the game, they want instant gratification.

    Don't pander to them because they are **** at the game. Thank you.

    #gitgud #madcuzbad #playhardgopro

    Well some of them maybe don't really have much time to play and "gitpro" at the game because work? Real life? Maybe take this into consideration as well. Surely there are ppl who are playing only for fun too.

    Why when I've put in the effort to be good at the game? I don't want no scrub telling me that something is OP when they've got 5 hours on record, compared to my 800hours.

    It would be like me going into a Hospital and telling a Brain surgeon he's doing it wrong, after I've watched an episode of E.R.
  • KresusFIN
    2716 posts Member
    hsf_ wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    They did when they released him in this state. How else would casuals or bads be able to perform with a saberhero?

    Put time into the game and actually learn the mechanics of each hero.
    I totally destroyed a level 19 Anakin at 4am this morning(GMT) as Maul, I then proceeded to bash another Anakin for an entire game as Vader, he rage quit after the 5th time I killed him without him even hurting me.

    Anakin is fine, if you're stupid enough to be hitting him while he's charging Heroic Might, then you deserve to be defeated.
    Edit: They should buff the rest to compete with him, not herf him to stop him being competitive.

    Trouncing bad players, Anakin or not, is not a strong arguement. Proof that he was bad being that you were able to lay a hand on him as Maul to begin with.
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    The fact is that if you're running it's because you suck, and the game shouldn't pander to players who suck.

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  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    hsf_ wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    They did when they released him in this state. How else would casuals or bads be able to perform with a saberhero?

    Put time into the game and actually learn the mechanics of each hero.
    I totally destroyed a level 19 Anakin at 4am this morning(GMT) as Maul, I then proceeded to bash another Anakin for an entire game as Vader, he rage quit after the 5th time I killed him without him even hurting me.

    Anakin is fine, if you're stupid enough to be hitting him while he's charging Heroic Might, then you deserve to be defeated.
    Edit: They should buff the rest to compete with him, not herf him to stop him being competitive.

    Trouncing bad players, Anakin or not, is not a strong arguement. Proof that he was bad being that you were able to lay a hand on him as Maul to begin with.

    Or I just outplayed him, no?
  • Grabbing a hero and taking an incredible advantage over most of your opponents is about as CASUAL easy as you can get in a game. So ironic seeing you guys brag about skill and other bad players...just couldn't cut it without super advantages huh? Now you're mad and pointing fingers.
  • GenxDarchi
    7721 posts Member
    Grabbing a hero and taking an incredible advantage over most of your opponents is about as CASUAL easy as you can get in a game. So ironic seeing you guys brag about skill and other bad players...just couldn't cut it without super advantages huh? Now you're mad and pointing fingers.

    Well, considering that Anakin is usually taken by the first player to 4,500 points, that would indicate that the best players get him first, no?
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  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    Grabbing a hero and taking an incredible advantage over most of your opponents is about as CASUAL easy as you can get in a game. So ironic seeing you guys brag about skill and other bad players...just couldn't cut it without super advantages huh? Now you're mad and pointing fingers.

    It's different in HvV, which is where I go to play. It's not like I'm steamrolling a GA game as that's pointless.
  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Grabbing a hero and taking an incredible advantage over most of your opponents is about as CASUAL easy as you can get in a game. So ironic seeing you guys brag about skill and other bad players...just couldn't cut it without super advantages huh? Now you're mad and pointing fingers.

    Well, considering that Anakin is usually taken by the first player to 4,500 points, that would indicate that the best players get him first, no?
    +1 good point.
  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    Haha...are you guys new? Still dont know what an "average" officer player can achieve?? Why are you "the best" because you got hero points the fastest?? There are a ridiculous amount of easy ways to get those points and it does NOT mean you're the greatest player on your team. And with that attitude we'll never know because you had to jump into a overly advantaged situation as soon as you possibly could.

    Well, when I do occasionally venture onto GA, which is not very often I will admit, I don't see many people taking officers and dominating the scoreboard. Given that I have over 1000 posts and GenxDarchi has 6k posts, I'd take a wild stab in the dark that we're not new.
  • Haha...are you guys new? Still dont know what an "average" officer player can achieve?? Why are you "the best" because you got hero points the fastest?? There are a ridiculous amount of easy ways to get those points and it does NOT mean you're the greatest player on your team. And with that attitude we'll never know because you had to jump into a overly advantaged situation as soon as you possibly could.

    Oh be quiet. I've gained my 4500 with my assault class, before those officers you whine about the officer has no advantage, he only has an advantage to trash players.
  • Paraply
    78 posts Member
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Grabbing a hero and taking an incredible advantage over most of your opponents is about as CASUAL easy as you can get in a game. So ironic seeing you guys brag about skill and other bad players...just couldn't cut it without super advantages huh? Now you're mad and pointing fingers.

    Well, considering that Anakin is usually taken by the first player to 4,500 points, that would indicate that the best players get him first, no?

    Yes, the officers getting 1000 BP 3 seconds into the game are truly skilled players.

    And no, I don't care if you get heroes without playing as officer, because MOST games now 50%> of the team are officers on the light side just to get Anakin, and officer is by far the easiest class to get BP with unless you play on a sniper map.

    Officers should have their middle ability depleted at start, then it would be pretty equal.
  • GenxDarchi
    7721 posts Member
    Haha...are you guys new? Still dont know what an "average" officer player can achieve?? Why are you "the best" because you got hero points the fastest?? There are a ridiculous amount of easy ways to get those points and it does NOT mean you're the greatest player on your team. And with that attitude we'll never know because you had to jump into a overly advantaged situation as soon as you possibly could.

    Oh sure, getting top player with Specialist is super easy. And being able to stop a steamroll means that you are the greatest player atm, especially if you're in first, because you did better than everybody else.
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  • GenxDarchi
    7721 posts Member
    Paraply wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Grabbing a hero and taking an incredible advantage over most of your opponents is about as CASUAL easy as you can get in a game. So ironic seeing you guys brag about skill and other bad players...just couldn't cut it without super advantages huh? Now you're mad and pointing fingers.

    Well, considering that Anakin is usually taken by the first player to 4,500 points, that would indicate that the best players get him first, no?

    Yes, the officers getting 1000 BP 3 seconds into the game are truly skilled players.

    And no, I don't care if you get heroes without playing as officer, because MOST games now 50%> of the team are officers on the light side just to get Anakin, and officer is by far the easiest class to get BP with unless you play on a sniper map.

    Officers should have their middle ability depleted at start, then it would be pretty equal.

    If you can't outscore an Officer, then that's on you lol. It's pretty simple to do so as a Specialist, as long as you're simply better at shooting than the others.
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  • Duke_M
    76 posts Member
    Terranova4 wrote: »
    And the casuals win again

    They were winning when DICE made the decision in Battlefield 3 and 4 to have tanks that regained their own health without an Engineer using his tool to fix them so they could just scurry off after a few bazooka hits and regain health behind a building. It wasn't a perk, either.

    DICE started pandering to the casuals YEARS ago.
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  • hsf_ wrote: »
    They don't put the time or effort in to get good at the game, they want instant gratification.

    Don't pander to them because they are **** at the game. Thank you.

    #gitgud #madcuzbad #playhardgopro

    Vanity, instant gratification - the dark side is, hmmm!!!
  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    edited March 1
    Duke_M wrote: »
    Terranova4 wrote: »
    And the casuals win again

    They were winning when DICE made the decision in Battlefield 3 and 4 to have tanks that regained their own health without an Engineer using his tool to fix them so they could just scurry off after a few bazooka hits and regain health behind a building. It wasn't a perk, either.

    DICE started pandering to the casuals YEARS ago.

    Ha, the only BF game I've bought is BF1(2016), because it was set during WW1, which not many games seem to cover. I was vehemently annoyed when I saw how historically inaccurate it was. I didn't buy BFV because it had the same problems... WHY IS A WOMAN ON THE FRONT COVER WHEN NO WOMEN WERE ON THE FRONT LINE IN WW2?
    Women in the war. Approximately 350,000 American women joined the military during World War II. They worked as nurses, drove trucks, repaired airplanes, and performed clerical work to free up men for combat. Those who joined the Women's Airforce Service Pilots (WASPs) flew planes from the factories to military bases

    Thanks for trying to change history DICE, really...
  • Duke_M
    76 posts Member
    Bad Company 2 remains (IMO at least) the last truly decent game in the Battlefield series. Shame you didn't get to play it at its peak. It wasn't perfect - some of the maps in Conquest had absolutely horrid chokepoints leading from the bases which led to really bad spawncamping if a team lost all points - but it was so much more fun than every Battlefield game that has since followed it. Arica Harbor remains (again, IMO) one of the finest maps I've ever played on a multiplayer game.

    And the Vietnam expansion was also pretty well done. Decent maps, too.

    Where has that DICE gone?
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  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    Duke_M wrote: »
    Bad Company 2 remains (IMO at least) the last truly decent game in the Battlefield series. Shame you didn't get to play it at its peak. It wasn't perfect - some of the maps in Conquest had absolutely horrid chokepoints leading from the bases which led to really bad spawncamping if a team lost all points - but it was so much more fun than every Battlefield game that has since followed it. Arica Harbor remains (again, IMO) one of the finest maps I've ever played on a multiplayer game.

    And the Vietnam expansion was also pretty well done. Decent maps, too.

    Where has that DICE gone?

    I think that DICE went into the bin with Westwood and all the other developers that EA have liquidated. EA like to do that, they like to make huge mistakes and then liquidate the developers... EA refusing responsobility since 1982.
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  • SWymsa
    823 posts Member
    NERF hammer must smite thee apostate hero, it has so been decreed
  • SWymsa
    823 posts Member
    I love how people think casual exclusively means lazy and uninterested XD Does that mean the hardcore players are try-hard no-lifes with nothing to do besides play the game? Being casual just means you're playing the game to enjoy it whenever you play it. Hardcore players are almost exclusively trying to be better than everyone else at all times, playing nothing but this game, and abusing as many game mechanics as possible to do it, hence why nerfs of extremely popular things cause everyone to scream bloody murder.

    They have mobile games for casuals
  • hsf_ wrote: »
    They don't put the time or effort in to get good at the game, they want instant gratification.

    Don't pander to them because they are **** at the game. Thank you.

    #gitgud #madcuzbad #playhardgopro

    I really don't like your attitude
  • Lightsaber heroes were designed for casual players. If DICE cared about competitiveness, they'd add private matches and balanced infantry modes. They've focused on heroes ever since launch. Y'all receive too much attention as it is.

    The 1st game was entirely casual based. Heroes were walking tanks regardless of weapon, fighters had auto-tracking lasers, the weapons and equipment set-up was even more basic than even Call of Duty, and the modes were barebones and very simple. But it was fun. That's exactly the point of these games, play for the fun of it. But because everyone has to try as hard as they possible can solely to get a hero in any mode, the focus is on heroes. If they made it so heroes could only be accessed in phase 2 and earned points were tweaked depending on what was going on, thee would be less hero reliance and people would actually be able to play whatever they wanted because it would no longer be a race to the first hero of the match.
  • I'm sorry, but a game needs to be balanced so that all players can have fun. Making a game that panders to the 10% top tier players is a good way to lose most of your player population and end up with empty lobbies, lol.

    I haven't seen compelling evidence of casual-oriented gameplay boosting playerbases. In fact, I've noticed the opposite trend on several games.
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  • Psy3d
    683 posts Member
    edited March 1
    Yes and No with this thread.

    Yes don't give in to the whims of the casuals...let them plebs have it!

    No since this might push away newcomers if someone like Ani running around getting 60+ kills in GA just like that. I've seen repeated killed players in GA just leave while in HvV seen empty lobbies for Kachiro beach map as everyone in DS bails early.

    So I say come to a middle ground where the wall hack move HM is fixed and either radius and/or damage is decreased a little so OHK only happens to a damaged hero.
  • Finest_Banana
    1781 posts Member
    edited March 1
    COD is relatively competitive, @Darth_Cerebus. I'd point to League Play and "GameBattles." Also competitive playlists and eSports.
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  • Moojammin_10
    1957 posts Member
    edited March 1
    I think if it's ultra competitive shooters you're after you need to play another game. This one isn't for you.
  • Finest_Banana
    1781 posts Member
    edited March 1
    I think if it's ultra competitive shooters you're after you need to play another game. This one isn't for you.

    Who said anything about "ultra competitive?" I'd settle for infantry-only cargo, private matches, slightly increased pace of play, and stats. That and a few more weapons and maps. BF17 still wouldn't meet my pre-launch expectations, but at least it'd be something to work with.
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  • DarthJ wrote: »
    CeymalRen wrote: »
    I agree. Giving those casuals an OP hero with a nuke attack was a mistake.

    Wonder what you nerf lovers will complain about next when something else beats you in the game

    This just makes me mad. There are a couple of new posters who have an obsession with nerfing Anakin. And you’re right, they’ll be whining about something else to nerf next week. Mad I am.

  • Peepzilla
    931 posts Member
    edited March 1
    The irony of OHK abusers calling others "casuals" LUL
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