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Why can han solo shoulder charge through lightsaber block?

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  • Wait are you telling me you think its ok for a shoulder charge to go through a lightsaber block? lol
  • Arcanewarrior
    463 posts Member
    edited March 25
    Han solo has a detonite charge this can break block too it should be common sense to use shoulder charge not head on when a saber hero is blocking where is the logic there?
  • That never happens for me. Detonite or shoulder charge never breaks block for me.
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  • Lol really? It happens every time for me i just though it was one of the many innacurate "working as intended" things of this game like not being able to block speeder blasters even though we clearly see luke do it in ROTJ
  • I dunno just doesnt look right to see. I dodge it when i see it coming now and just finnish him off anyway, but something just aint right about him being able to shoulder charge a plasma/energy sword head on lol
  • I think it’s kind of funny and i always feel like Han doing it. It’s like “well If this stupid blaster isn’t going to work I guess I’ll try this. Here goes.”
  • DarthLando
    874 posts Member
    edited March 25
    I dunno just doesnt look right to see. I dodge it when i see it coming now and just finnish him off anyway, but something just aint right about him being able to shoulder charge a plasma/energy sword head on lol

    Did you make a similar thread about how it takes a multitude of swings from a light saber to kill someone ?

    No, because it’s a video game mate
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  • Never use it against Palpatine. His lightning will stagger you and interrupt his shoulder charge.
  • Try using his damage reduction card for his shoulder charge when fighting against a Boba Fett that can aim.
  • I have seen blaster hero melee go right thru light sabers
  • Paper beats rock, shoulder beats saber
  • bfloo
    14497 posts Member
    Valero1127 wrote: »
    I have seen blaster hero melee go right thru light sabers

    Specialists can take a hero down with melee attacks before they get taken down by a light saber too.
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  • bfloo wrote: »
    Valero1127 wrote: »
    I have seen blaster hero melee go right thru light sabers

    Specialists can take a hero down with melee attacks before they get taken down by a light saber too.

    That's a whole other problem.
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  • Also not a fan of the whole 'I can still shoot while getting sliced to pieces' mechanic either. That's a big pile of **** to me.
  • Han already has a detonite charge, to stagger and knockdown lightsaber heroes, and now they made Han's shoulder charge to knockdown people at point blank, which means he no longer needs to run to gain momentum to do it. A lightsaber hero should be able to block this. It also kind of ruins the immersion of the game, which most star wars fans are all about.
  • Relmets
    1937 posts Member
    crssquared wrote: »
    Also not a fan of the whole 'I can still shoot while getting sliced to pieces' mechanic either. That's a big pile of **** to me.
    LOOOOOOL
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    And what's the alternative then? Magnetic saberstun now jams blasters as well?
    Surely this is bait?
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  • mastery0ta
    5954 posts Member
    He does it in the movie.
  • The babies don't like it when the character that has the highest skill ceiling to use isn't cannon fodder to their one button mashing

    Why u gotta go straight to the insults lol i coukd say crybaby blaster players need an unrealistic ability and game mechanics to beat saber heroes?
    Provide an actual argument not just dish out insults.
    If u said that to me in real life id break u in half lmfao lil keyboard warrior hahahaha
  • The babies don't like it when the character that has the highest skill ceiling to use isn't cannon fodder to their one button mashing

    So explain to me how an ability like shoulder charge takes skill? You just tap a button and you get free damage right there! You know you're a one button masher too if you use an infantry or blaster hero right? Of course people are going to button mash in this game, it literally takes one button/trigger/key to shoot or swing a lightsaber in order to do damage.
  • KresusFIN
    2475 posts Member
    One of the few things that a shooter actually has over a saber pick. It's fine. Lord knows if he misses that charge, he'll get R2R2R2R2'd to death anyway.
    The babies don't like it when the character that has the highest skill ceiling to use isn't cannon fodder to their one button mashing

    You know you're a one button masher too if you use an infantry or blaster hero right? .

    There's a ring of truth there. Except I don't get around 150+ damage by mindlessly shooting in the general direction of the thing I want to kill. I have to precisely aim, more often than not my target will be on the move. And blaster bolts have no stagger effect (curious, isn't it?), as opposed to how lightsabers play. *Force Power 1* *R2R2R2R2* (That isn't even well aimed. Just "generally in his direction") *Force Power 2* and pretty much anyone is dead by that point.
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  • So both his abilities really do break blocks? Why am I getting screwed over constantly; chucking a detonite at Vader or shoulder charge never knocks him down. :neutral:
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  • RebelScum13
    59 posts Member
    edited April 5
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    One of the few things that a shooter actually has over a saber pick. It's fine. Lord knows if he misses that charge, he'll get R2R2R2R2'd to death anyway.
    The babies don't like it when the character that has the highest skill ceiling to use isn't cannon fodder to their one button mashing

    You know you're a one button masher too if you use an infantry or blaster hero right? .

    There's a ring of truth there. Except I don't get around 150+ damage by mindlessly shooting in the general direction of the thing I want to kill. I have to precisely aim, more often than not my target will be on the move. And blaster bolts have no stagger effect (curious, isn't it?), as opposed to how lightsabers play. *Force Power 1* *R2R2R2R2* (That isn't even well aimed. Just "generally in his direction") *Force Power 2* and pretty much anyone is dead by that point.

    Blasters bolts don't cut things off when they make contact, lightsabers are known to do that....in Star Wars of course. A stagger with 150+ damage seems pretty reasonable, don't you think? Of course you don't go around mindlessly shooting in a general direction to damage a target thats not how blasters work, its not like a lightsaber where your aim doesn't have to be precise because it is much longer and bigger than a blaster bolt. Sure it takes more skill to hit your target with a blaster then a lightsaber, if that was the point you were trying to make. You should try rolling away from R2R2R2R2 believe me it will keep you alive and you won't be dead so quick. Force abilities don't have to be aimed true, but you can roll out of them, while force users can't dodge blaster stuns or detonite charge. You don't have as much pressure to aim and shoot at a lightsaber hero knowing that he can't shoot back at you, if you are at a safe distance you shoud be fine. Until he reaches you.

    The point was, if you are going to say someone is a button masher by pressing a button repeatedly. Just realize you are doing the same thing, I'm just saying...
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  • RebelScum13
    59 posts Member
    edited April 5
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    One of the few things that a shooter actually has over a saber pick. It's fine. Lord knows if he misses that charge, he'll get R2R2R2R2'd to death anyway.
    The babies don't like it when the character that has the highest skill ceiling to use isn't cannon fodder to their one button mashing

    You know you're a one button masher too if you use an infantry or blaster hero right? .

    There's a ring of truth there. Except I don't get around 150+ damage by mindlessly shooting in the general direction of the thing I want to kill. I have to precisely aim, more often than not my target will be on the move. And blaster bolts have no stagger effect (curious, isn't it?), as opposed to how lightsabers play. *Force Power 1* *R2R2R2R2* (That isn't even well aimed. Just "generally in his direction") *Force Power 2* and pretty much anyone is dead by that point.

    That's because blasters aren't known to cut a person's arm off or person in half.......or in pieces.....lightsabers are known to do that. Sounds pretty reasonable to be staggered by a lightsaber swing with 150+ damage wouldn't you say?
  • even with all the crutches and mechanics in their favour, loosing out to a shoulder charge of all things brings warmth to my soul
  • mastery0ta
    5954 posts Member
    My problem is ive already shot everyone in the room and I have no nEed for the shoulder charge. I use it as a dash to get to parts of the map Id like to admire,quickly. His bombs I use as celebratory fireworks at the beginning of every match.
  • KresusFIN
    2475 posts Member
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    One of the few things that a shooter actually has over a saber pick. It's fine. Lord knows if he misses that charge, he'll get R2R2R2R2'd to death anyway.
    The babies don't like it when the character that has the highest skill ceiling to use isn't cannon fodder to their one button mashing

    You know you're a one button masher too if you use an infantry or blaster hero right? .

    There's a ring of truth there. Except I don't get around 150+ damage by mindlessly shooting in the general direction of the thing I want to kill. I have to precisely aim, more often than not my target will be on the move. And blaster bolts have no stagger effect (curious, isn't it?), as opposed to how lightsabers play. *Force Power 1* *R2R2R2R2* (That isn't even well aimed. Just "generally in his direction") *Force Power 2* and pretty much anyone is dead by that point.

    That's because blasters aren't known to cut a person's arm off or person in half.......or in pieces.....lightsabers are known to do that. Sounds pretty reasonable to be staggered by a lightsaber swing with 150+ damage wouldn't you say?

    There's a ring of truth in that one too, but if we're going to go down this route, I may aswell advocate for blasters to outright 1-2 shot everything they hit. It's not decapitation or anything, but if that how they're being portrayed, we may aswell have some manner of translation of that brought into the game.

    Thinking on that a bit further, seeing as Lightsabers are allowed to deflect blaster bolts for days, and still manage to close the distance and R2R2R2 blasters to death, I'd say it seems reasonable to let blasters have their guns buffed up to 2 shot kill damage. Or at the very least, up to those same insane 150+ values
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    Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
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  • It shouldn’t knock you down if you are blocking, that’s strange
  • He can’t run fast and has no defensive against lightsaber atks so I think it’s fine. They already nerfed his running speed so you can easily kill him with force pushes etc.
  • brienj
    660 posts Member
    Luckily they finally fixed it and you can use it properly at even close range. He is my favorite hero to play as, and was the first one I got to level 40. The shoulder charge is so useful, even to run out of sticky situations.

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  • i take so much joy in using this. many people think it's useless, they are incorrect.

    a detonite charge followed up with this right as they get it up is a death knell, just keep squeezing that trigger

    some people just want saber users to run rampant with no checks. if you get hit with that shoulder charge, it is YOUR fault. it's not that fast, and if you already got knocked down beforehand, also YOUR fault

    heaven forbid a blaster user has some kind of defense. holding L2 with a saber can't save you everywhere, sorry dude
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  • some people just want saber users to run rampant with no checks. if you get hit with that shoulder charge, it is YOUR fault. it's not that fast, and if you already got knocked down beforehand, also YOUR fault

    heaven forbid a blaster user has some kind of defense. holding L2 with a saber can't save you everywhere, sorry dude[/quote]

    What makes you think they don't have a defense against a lightsaber. Your blaster and distance is your defense against
    a lightsaber, and team work. Rolling is a good defense too. Arcanewarrior's topic is that Han Solo's Shoulder charge shouldn't be able to knock down a lightsaber blocking, in my opinion they shouldn't take any damage either when blocking. Sabers should have these advantages over blaster heroes. Remember what happened to Jango Fett when he let Mace Windu close the distance on him?
  • RebelScum13
    59 posts Member
    edited April 7
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    One of the few things that a shooter actually has over a saber pick. It's fine. Lord knows if he misses that charge, he'll get R2R2R2R2'd to death anyway.
    The babies don't like it when the character that has the highest skill ceiling to use isn't cannon fodder to their one button mashing

    You know you're a one button masher too if you use an infantry or blaster hero right? .

    There's a ring of truth there. Except I don't get around 150+ damage by mindlessly shooting in the general direction of the thing I want to kill. I have to precisely aim, more often than not my target will be on the move. And blaster bolts have no stagger effect (curious, isn't it?), as opposed to how lightsabers play. *Force Power 1* *R2R2R2R2* (That isn't even well aimed. Just "generally in his direction") *Force Power 2* and pretty much anyone is dead by that point.

    That's because blasters aren't known to cut a person's arm off or person in half.......or in pieces.....lightsabers are known to do that. Sounds pretty reasonable to be staggered by a lightsaber swing with 150+ damage wouldn't you say?

    There's a ring of truth in that one too, but if we're going to go down this route, I may aswell advocate for blasters to outright 1-2 shot everything they hit. It's not decapitation or anything, but if that how they're being portrayed, we may aswell have some manner of translation of that brought into the game.

    Thinking on that a bit further, seeing as Lightsabers are allowed to deflect blaster bolts for days, and still manage to close the distance and R2R2R2 blasters to death, I'd say it seems reasonable to let blasters have their guns buffed up to 2 shot kill damage. Or at the very least, up to those same insane 150+ values

    @KresusFIN There's a ring of truth to that, but how many top FPS shooter games have you get staggered each time you get shot?
    Post edited by RebelScum13 on
  • I think shoulder charge should absolutely break block.

    What you mean break block. As of in goes through it and damages or stops block working?

    The break time is so short cant have advantage because block is active again then
    Priority list:

    1. Fix Split Screen bugs and the rest
    2. Reduce bright Saber glows especially on Yodas head
    3. 41st Scout clone trooper
    4. Max out Arcade maps Combat area
    5. First Person only mode
  • It shouldn’t knock you down if you are blocking, that’s strange

    ...Sooo much strange things happen in this game. I tell you
    Priority list:

    1. Fix Split Screen bugs and the rest
    2. Reduce bright Saber glows especially on Yodas head
    3. 41st Scout clone trooper
    4. Max out Arcade maps Combat area
    5. First Person only mode
  • You know whats more funny? You can even melee at a lightsaber and fight it
    Priority list:

    1. Fix Split Screen bugs and the rest
    2. Reduce bright Saber glows especially on Yodas head
    3. 41st Scout clone trooper
    4. Max out Arcade maps Combat area
    5. First Person only mode
  • It is the riskiest ability to use in the game. If they dodge, Han will have no chance.

    Oh yeah?
    Priority list:

    1. Fix Split Screen bugs and the rest
    2. Reduce bright Saber glows especially on Yodas head
    3. 41st Scout clone trooper
    4. Max out Arcade maps Combat area
    5. First Person only mode
  • tankertoad
    5814 posts Member
    I think it’s kind of funny and i always feel like Han doing it. It’s like “well If this stupid blaster isn’t going to work I guess I’ll try this. Here goes.”

    Agree.
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  • tankertoad
    5814 posts Member
    This is great. A hard to play successfully, hero has a very risky move that doesn't do but a little bit of damage and leaves him very vulnerable and people are saying that it's OP.

    999 probably problems, this ain't one.

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