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  • RebelScum13
    83 posts Member
    edited April 6
    tankertoad wrote: »
    This is great. A hard to play successfully, hero has a very risky move that doesn't do but a little bit of damage and leaves him very vulnerable and people are saying that it's OP.

    999 probably problems, this ain't one.

    No one is saying its OP. I just don't think it should be able to knock down someone who is blocking.
  • Arcanewarrior
    463 posts Member
    edited April 6
    For the record no one is saying it is an OP ability but you should have to use it sitationally just like every other heroes abilities (bar anakin) you wouldnt shoot at a blocking lightsaber so why would you shoulder charge it? I can play Han without shoulder charging through peoples lightsaber blocks thanks all it does is break immersion. Stop defending an overlooked bug/mechanic. The ability should not knock you down if used on you head on whilst you are blocking unless from the sides or behind. Try and help have it rectified through constructive criticism instead of whining
  • Game balance trumps canon. .

    So is that why we have a crazy OP Anakin running around right now killing GA and CS with his "Chosen one" abilities?
  • Empire_TW wrote: »
    Game balance trumps canon. .

    So is that why we have a crazy OP Anakin running around right now killing GA and CS with his "Chosen one" abilities?

    Most people don't like that he is doing that. The developers making Anakin OP on purpose with ChOsEn OnE as an excuse is extremely criticized.

    Lol yeah thats why im saying it why is anakin canon and "the chosen one" but han can shoulder charge through a blocking lightsaber head on?
    You should have to use tactics roll past the saber spin round and shoulder charge them in the back or side its not hard people want this game so casual
  • awakespace
    1083 posts Member
    Wait are you telling me you think its ok for a shoulder charge to go through a lightsaber block? lol

    Is it okay that Vader has to slash Han more than once with a lightsaber to kill him? Is it okay that Han is a match for the Emperor?

    If we wanted to be canon accurate, force users would decimate any non-force users - no contest - but the game is designed to be balanced, so that all heroes are somewhat equal - at least prior to Anakin
  • awakespace wrote: »
    Wait are you telling me you think its ok for a shoulder charge to go through a lightsaber block? lol

    Is it okay that Vader has to slash Han more than once with a lightsaber to kill him? Is it okay that Han is a match for the Emperor?

    If we wanted to be canon accurate, force users would decimate any non-force users - no contest - but the game is designed to be balanced, so that all heroes are somewhat equal - at least prior to Anakin

    Well anakin is decimating all non force users now and most force users because "hes the chosen one" LOL behave.
    You talk about balance ok so why can blaster users shoot/explosive damage force users whilst they are dodging but force users cannot affect blaster users during combat roll neithet can lightsaber hits.
    The game wont lose balance just for correcting the mistake of making hans shoulder charge not able to knock down blocking saber users. This is the same button mashing that people complain about in saber users lol.
  • RebelScum13
    83 posts Member
    edited April 7
    y'all need to stop taking this all so literal. this is about game balance. not whether or not a shoulder can smash through a light saber in "real life".


    gimme a fffffffing break

    @computerson Please explain to me how you think it will ruin the balance of the game, if shoulder charge cannot break a lightsaber block.
  • GenxDarchi
    7725 posts Member
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    One of the few things that a shooter actually has over a saber pick. It's fine. Lord knows if he misses that charge, he'll get R2R2R2R2'd to death anyway.
    The babies don't like it when the character that has the highest skill ceiling to use isn't cannon fodder to their one button mashing

    You know you're a one button masher too if you use an infantry or blaster hero right? .

    There's a ring of truth there. Except I don't get around 150+ damage by mindlessly shooting in the general direction of the thing I want to kill. I have to precisely aim, more often than not my target will be on the move. And blaster bolts have no stagger effect (curious, isn't it?), as opposed to how lightsabers play. *Force Power 1* *R2R2R2R2* (That isn't even well aimed. Just "generally in his direction") *Force Power 2* and pretty much anyone is dead by that point.

    That's because blasters aren't known to cut a person's arm off or person in half.......or in pieces.....lightsabers are known to do that. Sounds pretty reasonable to be staggered by a lightsaber swing with 150+ damage wouldn't you say?

    Again, canon does not trump game balance. Otherwise Blasters would one shot.
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  • GenxDarchi
    7725 posts Member
    y'all need to stop taking this all so literal. this is about game balance. not whether or not a shoulder can smash through a light saber in "real life".


    gimme a fffffffing break

    @computerson Please explain to me how you think it will ruin the balance of the game, if shoulder charge cannot break a lightsaber block.

    Because first the ability is painfully obvious, secondly he only has detonite to stagger, and thirdly it’s arguably worse than other abilities of it’s kind. It’s one character, get used to it.
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  • Sure it's not realistical but leave the poor blaster heroes alone!!!
  • Wait are you telling me you think its ok for a shoulder charge to go through a lightsaber block? lol

    In real life, a saber blocker can't cover their whole body, and Han would simply aim for part of them where the saber wouldn't touch him, like their wrist.
  • RebelScum13
    83 posts Member
    edited April 7
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    One of the few things that a shooter actually has over a saber pick. It's fine. Lord knows if he misses that charge, he'll get R2R2R2R2'd to death anyway.
    The babies don't like it when the character that has the highest skill ceiling to use isn't cannon fodder to their one button mashing

    You know you're a one button masher too if you use an infantry or blaster hero right? .

    There's a ring of truth there. Except I don't get around 150+ damage by mindlessly shooting in the general direction of the thing I want to kill. I have to precisely aim, more often than not my target will be on the move. And blaster bolts have no stagger effect (curious, isn't it?), as opposed to how lightsabers play. *Force Power 1* *R2R2R2R2* (That isn't even well aimed. Just "generally in his direction") *Force Power 2* and pretty much anyone is dead by that point.

    That's because blasters aren't known to cut a person's arm off or person in half.......or in pieces.....lightsabers are known to do that. Sounds pretty reasonable to be staggered by a lightsaber swing with 150+ damage wouldn't you say?

    Again, canon does not trump game balance. Otherwise Blasters would one shot.

    @GenxDarchi Again how will not knocking a lightsaber hero down with shoulder charge make Han Solo Imbalanced? It's just one ability and one character?
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  • RebelScum13
    83 posts Member
    edited April 7
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    y'all need to stop taking this all so literal. this is about game balance. not whether or not a shoulder can smash through a light saber in "real life".


    gimme a fffffffing break

    @computerson Please explain to me how you think it will ruin the balance of the game, if shoulder charge cannot break a lightsaber block.

    Because first the ability is painfully obvious, secondly he only has detonite to stagger, and thirdly it’s arguably worse than other abilities of it’s kind. It’s one character, get used to it.

    I understand what you are trying to say man, but do you really think that Han will be imbalanced if he is not able to knock down someone when they are blocking? Like you said it is only one move that won't be able to knock you down when you are blocking, we are not asking to take away the damage when someone is blocking, although i think they should. I think if you play Han solo enough you will find ways to adapt to this change if it happens. It's not going to imbalance him bro, trust me. Like you said, its one character, you have team mates for a reason, and other abilites as well, and skill. Use them.
  • RebelScum13
    83 posts Member
    edited April 7
    Wait are you telling me you think its ok for a shoulder charge to go through a lightsaber block? lol

    In real life, a saber blocker can't cover their whole body, and Han would simply aim for part of them where the saber wouldn't touch him, like their wrist.

    In the Star Wars Universe, The Jedi and Sith are known to have super fast reflexes because of their Force sensitivity. That is why they are able to block blaster bolts. They would be quick enough to block an aim at their wrist.
  • brienj
    680 posts Member
    For the record no one is saying it is an OP ability but you should have to use it sitationally just like every other heroes abilities (bar anakin) you wouldnt shoot at a blocking lightsaber so why would you shoulder charge it? I can play Han without shoulder charging through peoples lightsaber blocks thanks all it does is break immersion. Stop defending an overlooked bug/mechanic. The ability should not knock you down if used on you head on whilst you are blocking unless from the sides or behind. Try and help have it rectified through constructive criticism instead of whining

    You don't use Shoulder Charge? Han is supposed to be played aggressively, if you play him passively, you're not playing him to his full potential. I love when there is a Han on the other team that plays passively, and never uses Shoulder Charge, that's some free and easy kills for me.
  • lmao you'd have to be super trash to think shoulder charge is OP vs glowsticks

    It's super slow, saber dodge is like 10m sideways and it leaves Han's back completely open for extra damage strikes

    frankly, if Han manages anything using it except half to all his own health gone, the saber player is simply a turnip

    but this sort of crying is what happens when you design your game to appeal to deku scrubs
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