One Hero Per Side for Extraction?

Atreus213 · April 8, 2019 4:50PM

As per title, would people be more interested in Extraction with one hero per side?

BF2015 had a couple per side iirc and I believe it was well-received. I don't suspect one in this game will have an overbearing influence (balance Anakin first).

Thoughts?

RyanK388 · April 8, 2019 5:08PM

Anakin FTW!
Darkside never stood a chance
Honestly I fear that heroes (Post-Anakin) would have been a great idea for this small jampacked mode.

The inclusion of the chosen one you’re always going to have points to spend might as well be mr skyguy and Force a victory outta The Bad guys efforts

Extraction was better balanced in 2015
With Officer bounty hunters racking up easy point with buff and se44c Anakin will surely be one win for sure

C3POR2D2BB8 · April 8, 2019 5:13PM

Lol no

arapahoepark · April 8, 2019 5:14PM

No. It would be lopsided.

Atreus213 · April 8, 2019 5:21PM

RyanK388 wrote: »

Anakin FTW!
Darkside never stood a chance
Honestly I fear that heroes (Post-Anakin) would have been a great idea for this small jampacked mode.

The inclusion of the chosen one you’re always going to have points to spend might as well be mr skyguy and Force a victory outta The Bad guys efforts

Extraction was better balanced in 2015
With Officer bounty hunters racking up easy point with buff and se44c Anakin will surely be one win for sure

Yep I share those concerns. There will be meta picks especially the way things are. Could always keep it OT heroes only.

Give it the ol' CS treatment.

To those going "lol no", you clearly never played BF2015 with their 1-shot heroes.

holstar1993 · April 8, 2019 5:32PM

Absolutely not. It is a great mode as is, just needs more maps. I'd be ok with heroes in ewok hunt, though. Slicing ewoks would be cool.

Darth_Vapor3 · April 8, 2019 6:19PM

No. Terrible idea. What would be great is a full Hero Extraction mode. 8v8 Extraction, but with heroes instead of troopers. This would be easy to implement. Basically zero development resources/time required. And that means it’ll never happen.

Empire_TW · April 8, 2019 6:29PM

I don't think it would be balanced, especially with someone like Palpatine who doesn't even need to kill people to get his health back.

Worked in 2015 because the heroes would widdle each other down to the point where the troopers could finish them off.

Atreus213 · April 8, 2019 6:44PM

Empire_TW wrote: »

I don't think it would be balanced, especially with someone like Palpatine who doesn't even need to kill people to get his health back.

Worked in 2015 because the heroes would widdle each other down to the point where the troopers could finish them off.

That's true, Palp might be a bit much. I can see Bossk mining up the package and running to regen being an issue too.

Darth_Vapor3 wrote: »

No. Terrible idea. What would be great is a full Hero Extraction mode. 8v8 Extraction, but with heroes instead of troopers. This would be easy to implement. Basically zero development resources/time required. And that means it’ll never happen.

I'm down with this. Anything other than target-based HvV to be real, though.

Good discussion.

Unwarycoin · April 8, 2019 6:53PM

I’m not sure.

Darth_Vapor3 · April 8, 2019 6:57PM

Atreus213 wrote: »

Empire_TW wrote: »

I don't think it would be balanced, especially with someone like Palpatine who doesn't even need to kill people to get his health back.

Worked in 2015 because the heroes would widdle each other down to the point where the troopers could finish them off.

That's true, Palp might be a bit much. I can see Bossk mining up the package and running to regen being an issue too.

Darth_Vapor3 wrote: »

No. Terrible idea. What would be great is a full Hero Extraction mode. 8v8 Extraction, but with heroes instead of troopers. This would be easy to implement. Basically zero development resources/time required. And that means it’ll never happen.

I'm down with this. Anything other than target-based HvV to be real, though.

Good discussion.

Yeah man, and all the work is already done. We have HvV on both Extraction maps already. We have the Extraction mode already in-game. Swap troopers for heroes and you have a new, objective-based hero mode with no target system and no tactical incentive for running or map exploits. This is a no brainer that I wish others would begin to lobby for. This would be a really good mode.

DJLutherKing · April 8, 2019 7:26PM

Blaster Heroes would be so much fun in extraction!

AW_Cramer · April 9, 2019 6:22AM

What are you talking about. Extraction is very popular and mostly because it is hero-free! It does not need heros... what it needs is more maps!

KresusFIN · April 9, 2019 7:51AM

I can just imagine how much a pain Finn would be in Extraction.

Atreus213 · April 9, 2019 11:48AM

Everything needs more maps. That isn't news.

bfloo · April 9, 2019 12:10PM

KresusFIN wrote: »

I can just imagine how much a pain Finn would be in Extraction.

Between Bossk and Phasma's droid, the ls would never get close to the shipment.

ARC211092 · April 9, 2019 12:45PM

It was a thing in the last game because initially, the heroes for each side were predetermined and locked. And not to mention, they were also far more balanced than they are in this game.

So if they were to add heroes to this game's version of extraction, they would:
1. Have to limit them to one per side per match.
B. Have them preselected and locked to each map for balancing purposes.
3. Have era appropriate heroes, which would eliminate the worry of Anakin spam.

But if they don't do those three things, then it's a no for me for heroes in this game's version of extraction.

bfloo · April 9, 2019 12:51PM

ARC211092 wrote: »

It was a thing in the last game because initially, the heroes for each side were predetermined and locked. And not to mention, they were also far more balanced than they are in this game.

So if they were to add heroes to this game's version of extraction, they would:
1. Have to limit them to one per side per match.
B. Have them preselected and locked to each map for balancing purposes.
3. Have era appropriate heroes, which would eliminate the worry of Anakin spam.

But if they don't do those three things, then it's a no for me for heroes in this game's version of extraction.

They'd have to take enforcers out to add a hero

ARC211092 · April 9, 2019 2:15PM

bfloo wrote: »

ARC211092 wrote: »

It was a thing in the last game because initially, the heroes for each side were predetermined and locked. And not to mention, they were also far more balanced than they are in this game.

So if they were to add heroes to this game's version of extraction, they would:
1. Have to limit them to one per side per match.
B. Have them preselected and locked to each map for balancing purposes.
3. Have era appropriate heroes, which would eliminate the worry of Anakin spam.

But if they don't do those three things, then it's a no for me for heroes in this game's version of extraction.

They'd have to take enforcers out to add a hero

And the airial troopers.

camerog · April 9, 2019 2:42PM

honestly no, i like it the way it is.

Skulgor · April 9, 2019 2:46PM

Terrible idea. All this mode needs is more maps. A lot of us play Extraction to get away from hero nonsense

FishBrownie · April 9, 2019 3:17PM

Keep the heroes in the larger game modes. And give us more maps for Extraction.

Atreus213 · April 9, 2019 3:34PM

ARC211092 wrote: »

It was a thing in the last game because initially, the heroes for each side were predetermined and locked. And not to mention, they were also far more balanced than they are in this game.

So if they were to add heroes to this game's version of extraction, they would:
1. Have to limit them to one per side per match.
B. Have them preselected and locked to each map for balancing purposes.
3. Have era appropriate heroes, which would eliminate the worry of Anakin spam.

But if they don't do those three things, then it's a no for me for heroes in this game's version of extraction.

Exactly. Though I'm not sure I agree about 2015's balancing being better, I agree that one or all of the steps you mentioned would need to be considered.

ARC211092 · April 9, 2019 3:41PM

Atreus213 wrote: »

ARC211092 wrote: »

It was a thing in the last game because initially, the heroes for each side were predetermined and locked. And not to mention, they were also far more balanced than they are in this game.

So if they were to add heroes to this game's version of extraction, they would:
1. Have to limit them to one per side per match.
B. Have them preselected and locked to each map for balancing purposes.
3. Have era appropriate heroes, which would eliminate the worry of Anakin spam.

But if they don't do those three things, then it's a no for me for heroes in this game's version of extraction.

Exactly. Though I'm not sure I agree about 2015's balancing being better, I agree that one or all of the steps you mentioned would need to be considered.

At the time when the mode was first released, the heroes that were present on each map for the map were balanced with each other. It wasn't until they did away with the pre selected heroes that balance went out the window. Once they did that, Chewie and Bossk would dominate the mode for their respective side. I personally went 85-2 on the Palace Garage map with Bossk in one match of extraction, with my only two deaths happening before I spawned in as Bossk.

bfloo · April 9, 2019 5:15PM

Atreus213 wrote: »

ARC211092 wrote: »

It was a thing in the last game because initially, the heroes for each side were predetermined and locked. And not to mention, they were also far more balanced than they are in this game.

So if they were to add heroes to this game's version of extraction, they would:
1. Have to limit them to one per side per match.
B. Have them preselected and locked to each map for balancing purposes.
3. Have era appropriate heroes, which would eliminate the worry of Anakin spam.

But if they don't do those three things, then it's a no for me for heroes in this game's version of extraction.

Exactly. Though I'm not sure I agree about 2015's balancing being better, I agree that one or all of the steps you mentioned would need to be considered.

The heroes started out pretty well balanced in the 2015 game, until they added more and tried to balance for HvV, but didn't balance it separately

The_Sith_Apprentice · April 9, 2019 7:51PM

No heroes in Extraction please! One thing that makes Extraction so great is that it is a trooper-only mode.

Atreus213 · April 9, 2019 8:00PM

The_Sith_Apprentice wrote: »

No heroes in Extraction please! One thing that makes Extraction so great is that it is a trooper-only mode.

Input like this is still helpful! I appreciate both Blast and Strike for this very reason.

rollind24 · April 9, 2019 8:05PM

Big difference is last game you could whittle down their health. This game the hero’s would just need to kamikaze the Cargo, retreat for health while the team respawns, rinse, repeat.

JackTHorn · April 9, 2019 10:13PM

Atreus213 wrote: »

As per title, would people be more interested in Extraction with one hero per side?

BF2015 had a couple per side iirc and I believe it was well-received. I don't suspect one in this game will have an overbearing influence (balance Anakin first).

Thoughts?

GOD NO. Is nothing sacred to you hero people? Extraction and Strike are the only bastions of true Battlefront I this game. Please leave them alone.

I don't care if they make a second version of Extraction with a hero in it. Or a version that's all heroes, I don't care, live it up. But leave the existing mode alone.

Jenga_Fett1 · April 9, 2019 11:31PM

holstar1993 wrote: »

Absolutely not. It is a great mode as is, just needs more maps. I'd be ok with heroes in ewok hunt, though. Slicing ewoks would be cool.

Imagine if this thread gets a dev response earlier than the Extraction mega-thread with over a thousand comments. No offense OP.

Atreus213 · April 9, 2019 11:43PM

Jenga_Fett1 wrote: »

holstar1993 wrote: »

Absolutely not. It is a great mode as is, just needs more maps. I'd be ok with heroes in ewok hunt, though. Slicing ewoks would be cool.

Imagine if this thread gets a dev response earlier than the Extraction mega-thread with over a thousand comments. No offense OP.

It would behoove you to read the thread more closely. Nothing's being requested, only discussed. Though yeah, that would be kind of unfortunate.

Atreus213 · April 9, 2019 11:46PM

JackTHorn wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

As per title, would people be more interested in Extraction with one hero per side?

BF2015 had a couple per side iirc and I believe it was well-received. I don't suspect one in this game will have an overbearing influence (balance Anakin first).

Thoughts?

GOD NO. Is nothing sacred to you hero people? Extraction and Strike are the only bastions of true Battlefront I this game. Please leave them alone.

I don't care if they make a second version of Extraction with a hero in it. Or a version that's all heroes, I don't care, live it up. But leave the existing mode alone.

I don't think many people play Battlefront 2 for its "stellar gunplay", though opinions on all sides are appreciated.

There's also Blast btw.

Plup17 · April 10, 2019 12:43AM

First point, I’m really disappointed that they haven’t added more maps to this mode. Surely it can fit into current maps we have for strike/HvV. Death Star 2 and bespin I’m looking at you. Secondly- I would like to see heroes added as a weekend event, have it looked to OT heroes and two at a time. Maybe lower battlepoints cost so teams won’t just get steamrolled as troopers.

rollind24 · April 10, 2019 12:48AM

Atreus213 wrote: »

JackTHorn wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

As per title, would people be more interested in Extraction with one hero per side?

BF2015 had a couple per side iirc and I believe it was well-received. I don't suspect one in this game will have an overbearing influence (balance Anakin first).

Thoughts?

GOD NO. Is nothing sacred to you hero people? Extraction and Strike are the only bastions of true Battlefront I this game. Please leave them alone.

I don't care if they make a second version of Extraction with a hero in it. Or a version that's all heroes, I don't care, live it up. But leave the existing mode alone.

I don't think many people play Battlefront 2 for its "stellar gunplay", though opinions on all sides are appreciated.

There's also Blast btw.

There’s also numerous modes with hero’s, what’s your point.

Edit/ nevermind, I reread, I see your point. Carry on, I jumped the gun

The_Sith_Apprentice · April 10, 2019 12:48AM

If they added OT Infiltrators there would be no desire for heroes in Extraction. Those would be good enough.

Atreus213 · April 10, 2019 12:54AM

rollind24 wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

JackTHorn wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

As per title, would people be more interested in Extraction with one hero per side?

BF2015 had a couple per side iirc and I believe it was well-received. I don't suspect one in this game will have an overbearing influence (balance Anakin first).

Thoughts?

GOD NO. Is nothing sacred to you hero people? Extraction and Strike are the only bastions of true Battlefront I this game. Please leave them alone.

I don't care if they make a second version of Extraction with a hero in it. Or a version that's all heroes, I don't care, live it up. But leave the existing mode alone.

I don't think many people play Battlefront 2 for its "stellar gunplay", though opinions on all sides are appreciated.

There's also Blast btw.

There’s also numerous modes with hero’s, what’s your point.

Edit/ nevermind, I reread, I see your point. Carry on, I jumped the gun

lol glad I took a minute before responding

The_Sith_Apprentice wrote: »

If they added OT Infiltrators there would be no desire for heroes in Extraction. Those would be good enough.

For real though, I'm hoping so much for it.

rogerbigham1968_ · April 10, 2019 2:01AM

No way

holstar1993 · April 10, 2019 2:55AM

Jenga_Fett1 wrote: »

holstar1993 wrote: »

Absolutely not. It is a great mode as is, just needs more maps. I'd be ok with heroes in ewok hunt, though. Slicing ewoks would be cool.

Imagine if this thread gets a dev response earlier than the Extraction mega-thread with over a thousand comments. No offense OP.

Wouldn't shock me. If they did something that made sense I'd be shocked.

holstar1993 · April 10, 2019 2:57AM

Atreus213 wrote: »

JackTHorn wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

As per title, would people be more interested in Extraction with one hero per side?

BF2015 had a couple per side iirc and I believe it was well-received. I don't suspect one in this game will have an overbearing influence (balance Anakin first).

Thoughts?

GOD NO. Is nothing sacred to you hero people? Extraction and Strike are the only bastions of true Battlefront I this game. Please leave them alone.

I don't care if they make a second version of Extraction with a hero in it. Or a version that's all heroes, I don't care, live it up. But leave the existing mode alone.

I don't think many people play Battlefront 2 for its "stellar gunplay", though opinions on all sides are appreciated.

There's also Blast btw.

Blast is a joke to me. No comparison to objective modes without heroes. Yes, alot of people like mindless hero gameplay, but must it be in every mode?

Atreus213 · April 10, 2019 11:52AM

holstar1993 wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

JackTHorn wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

As per title, would people be more interested in Extraction with one hero per side?

BF2015 had a couple per side iirc and I believe it was well-received. I don't suspect one in this game will have an overbearing influence (balance Anakin first).

Thoughts?

GOD NO. Is nothing sacred to you hero people? Extraction and Strike are the only bastions of true Battlefront I this game. Please leave them alone.

I don't care if they make a second version of Extraction with a hero in it. Or a version that's all heroes, I don't care, live it up. But leave the existing mode alone.

I don't think many people play Battlefront 2 for its "stellar gunplay", though opinions on all sides are appreciated.

There's also Blast btw.

Blast is a joke to me. No comparison to objective modes without heroes. Yes, alot of people like mindless hero gameplay, but must it be in every mode?

You're entitled to your opinion but "mindless hero gameplay" is ignorant af lol.

Salacious_Me_1138 · April 10, 2019 12:17PM

Atreus213 wrote: »

holstar1993 wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

JackTHorn wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

As per title, would people be more interested in Extraction with one hero per side?

BF2015 had a couple per side iirc and I believe it was well-received. I don't suspect one in this game will have an overbearing influence (balance Anakin first).

Thoughts?

GOD NO. Is nothing sacred to you hero people? Extraction and Strike are the only bastions of true Battlefront I this game. Please leave them alone.

I don't care if they make a second version of Extraction with a hero in it. Or a version that's all heroes, I don't care, live it up. But leave the existing mode alone.

I don't think many people play Battlefront 2 for its "stellar gunplay", though opinions on all sides are appreciated.

There's also Blast btw.

Blast is a joke to me. No comparison to objective modes without heroes. Yes, alot of people like mindless hero gameplay, but must it be in every mode?

You're entitled to your opinion but "mindless hero gameplay" is ignorant af lol.

Wow, you bias is smelling up the room.

Atreus213 · April 10, 2019 12:24PM

Salacious_Me_1138 wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

holstar1993 wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

JackTHorn wrote: »

Atreus213 wrote: »

As per title, would people be more interested in Extraction with one hero per side?

BF2015 had a couple per side iirc and I believe it was well-received. I don't suspect one in this game will have an overbearing influence (balance Anakin first).

Thoughts?

GOD NO. Is nothing sacred to you hero people? Extraction and Strike are the only bastions of true Battlefront I this game. Please leave them alone.

I don't care if they make a second version of Extraction with a hero in it. Or a version that's all heroes, I don't care, live it up. But leave the existing mode alone.

I don't think many people play Battlefront 2 for its "stellar gunplay", though opinions on all sides are appreciated.

There's also Blast btw.

Blast is a joke to me. No comparison to objective modes without heroes. Yes, alot of people like mindless hero gameplay, but must it be in every mode?

You're entitled to your opinion but "mindless hero gameplay" is ignorant af lol.

Wow, you bias is smelling up the room.

And your ignorance is making the place inhospitable. I play every mode in the game, including starfighters.

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