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Ben Walke asked for it, here's my Mace Windu concept...

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  • Jakeman wrote: »
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    Looks good, I think they should release him with Jango fett, They could also release a new HvV map the geonisis arena
  • I like it.
  • Raices
    1151 posts Member
    edited April 17
    Honestly these are not very unique. I like the time you put into this, but sadly, you proved his point.

    Lol
  • Cool build. Sadly, Mace using Force Crush is no longer canon, so I doubt DICE would include that, but Vaapad and Shatterpoint might happen.
  • Raices wrote: »
    Jakeman wrote: »
    Honestly these are not very unique. I like the time you put into this, but sadly, you proved his point.

    Create any new force user at this point and they going to share some of the same flavors of force powers. Just like Luke and Obi-Wan share a Force Push ability and Anakin and Kylo share a Force Pull ability, they are different. Mace Windu used these powers in Canon and he would feel unique.

    100% this, he should've been added instead of Ahsoka. I can't think ONE aspect of Ashoka that isn't already in the game.

    Game play wise she has two lightsabers so yeah she’s different.

    Game play wise?

    How would 2 lightsaber differ from one in terms of gameplay? its purely cosmetic

    Not to mention grievous already has 2 sabers...
  • Jakeman wrote: »
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    Looks good, I think they should release him with Jango fett, They could also release a new HvV map the geonisis arena

    Your kidding
  • freshseth83
    327 posts Member
    edited April 18
    I like the abilities, but to be unique, they need to make Mace stand out. Vaapad shouldn't be a rush imo. It's an ability he has that channels the dark side forces to it's user, both from the opponent and within. He uses it to his advantage as it fuels him and drains the others (particularly dark side users). So it should be an ability sorta of like Palpatine's Dark Aura but also have it as a buff to Mace or preferably an ability that has good damage reduction. I wouldn't give it any increase in speed but an increase in damage done to the opposing team might work along with a slow drain to them. One or the other. It'll be hard to make it or any other ability unique because a lot of force powers are similar. But I like the names of these abilities and they are specific to Mace and no other Jedi. Shatterpoint I guess would work similar to Rey's Insight in this concept since it reveals enemies, not sure if it's to the entire team though. I don't think it should be a simple ability that works as a reveal-type imho. I'm not sure how Disney's new canon describes Shatterpoint either, so it's a tough one to make an ability for in this game. Force Crush is great too. I would have it as a pull type ability, as in have it ranged like pull or push. How Mace used it wasn't with his Saber though, he used it sort of like a force choke. So I would have it as L1 on PS4/Xbox. It would do the same as a pull/choke, with good range but he would have an animation sort of like Anakin's pull except it would lift his opponents in the air and have the affected grab their sides as they're lungs collapse. Should be a short animation, no more than a second and have it do 150-175 damage to Infantry.
  • Mace would be great, should be the top priority for next hero added
  • Here's my build from a year ago, with a few small modifications I just made to it:

    Mace Windu

    Mace Windu was Master of the Order, the elected leader of the Jedi High Council and 2nd highest position in the Jedi Order after Grand Master, from an unknown point in time until 22 BBY, when he vacated the role and passed the title to Grand Master Yoda so that he could serve as a General during the Clone Wars. Mace Windu was typically considered to be the 2nd strongest Jedi in the Order overall after Yoda, weaker than Yoda in Force Abilities, but possibly a better lightsaber duelist that Yoda (Mace managed to disarm Sidious during their lightsaber duel, which Yoda proved unable to do). When it comes to lightsaber combat, Mace was one of the few Jedi in the order to master all 7 forms of lightsaber combat. He not only mastered Form 7, Juyo, the most difficult of all lightsaber forms to master, he was so skilled at it that he managed to create his own unique variant of Form 7 called Vaapad, noted for it's incredible speed. He had a rare talent for the Force Ability Shatterpoint, which allowed him to see the weak points in objects or enemies and exploit them. Mace Windu walked the line between light and dark much closer than most Jedi dared to, utilizing darker emotions like anger and darker force powers like Force Crush during combat without succumbing to the dark side.

    Health: 750
    Max health regen: 250
    Health Regen Speed: 60
    Health Regen Delay: 5 seconds
    Movement Speed: 8 meters/s
    Jump Height: 10 meters

    Weapon: Mace Windu's Lightsaber
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    Lightsaber Damage: 130
    Lightsaber Attack Speed: 130 attacks per minute
    Attack Stamina- 14 strikes
    Lightsaber Defensive Stamina- 10
    Blaster Defensive Stamina- 25
    Stamina Regen Delay- 1 seconds
    Stamina Regen Speed- 3 seconds
    Blaster Deflect Spread- 0.45


    Abilities
    Force Crush: Almost instantly Crushes enemies in front of Mace Windu in an 8m, 45 degree cone for 120 damage. 22 second cooldown.

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    Vaapad: Mace Windu uses the Force to enhance his movement speed and lightsaber attack speed by 15% for 10 seconds. 20 second cooldown

    Shatterpoint: A saber strike with a 3m lunge, if it connects with an enemy it does 100 damage and increases the amount of damage the enemy takes from all sources for the next 5 seconds by 15%. 16 second cooldown.

    Star Cards:
    • Mace Windu deals 5/10/15/20 more lightsaber damage
    • Mace Windu uses 8/10/12/15% less stamina when attacking or blocking.
    • Mace Windu regains 20 health per defeated trooper and 40/60/80/100 health per defeated villain
    • Increase damage of Force Crush when more than 1 enemy is inside the area of effect by 10/15/20/25%
    • Increase the area of effect for Force Crush by 10/20/30/40%
    • Increase speed boosts of Vaapad to 17/20/23/26%
    • Increase lunge distance of Shatterpoint by 10/20/30/40%
    • Increases the amount of extra damage that enemies affected by Shatterpoint take to 18/22/26/30%
    • Increases the duration of Shatterpoint's effect to 5.5/6/6.5/7 seconds
    .

    Standard Outfit:
    Jedi Master
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    Alternate Outfits:
    Robes (40,000 credits)
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    Clone Wars Jedi Armor (40,000 credits)
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    Emotes:

    “This party's over”
    “The oppression of the Sith will never return, you have lost”
    “I am going to end this once and for all”
    “He's too dangerous to be left alive”

    I like it. A emote I'd like is the line he'll say in the new season. Skip to 6:20

  • Raices
    1151 posts Member
    Raices wrote: »
    Jakeman wrote: »
    Honestly these are not very unique. I like the time you put into this, but sadly, you proved his point.

    Create any new force user at this point and they going to share some of the same flavors of force powers. Just like Luke and Obi-Wan share a Force Push ability and Anakin and Kylo share a Force Pull ability, they are different. Mace Windu used these powers in Canon and he would feel unique.

    100% this, he should've been added instead of Ahsoka. I can't think ONE aspect of Ashoka that isn't already in the game.

    Game play wise she has two lightsabers so yeah she’s different.

    Grievous?
  • Raices wrote: »
    Raices wrote: »
    Jakeman wrote: »
    Honestly these are not very unique. I like the time you put into this, but sadly, you proved his point.

    Create any new force user at this point and they going to share some of the same flavors of force powers. Just like Luke and Obi-Wan share a Force Push ability and Anakin and Kylo share a Force Pull ability, they are different. Mace Windu used these powers in Canon and he would feel unique.

    100% this, he should've been added instead of Ahsoka. I can't think ONE aspect of Ashoka that isn't already in the game.

    Game play wise she has two lightsabers so yeah she’s different.

    Grievous?

    Grievous swings both sabers at the same time in game. DICE could code Ahsoka and Ventress to swing their 2 sabers independently, resulting in alternate swings with the fastest saber attack speed in the game.
  • Cool build. Sadly, Mace using Force Crush is no longer canon, so I doubt DICE would include that, but Vaapad and Shatterpoint might happen.

    Was Grievous Shattered Skin Canon? Anything you put in BF2 becomes Canon.
  • Raices wrote: »
    Jakeman wrote: »
    Honestly these are not very unique. I like the time you put into this, but sadly, you proved his point.

    Create any new force user at this point and they going to share some of the same flavors of force powers. Just like Luke and Obi-Wan share a Force Push ability and Anakin and Kylo share a Force Pull ability, they are different. Mace Windu used these powers in Canon and he would feel unique.

    100% this, he should've been added instead of Ahsoka. I can't think ONE aspect of Ashoka that isn't already in the game.

    When did they add Ashoka?
    ''The difference between a fall and a sacrifice is sometimes difficult, but I feel he understood that difference, more than anyone knew. The galaxy would have fallen if he had not gone to war. Perhaps he became the Dark Lord out of necessity to prevent a greater evil''
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  • Raices wrote: »
    Jakeman wrote: »
    Honestly these are not very unique. I like the time you put into this, but sadly, you proved his point.

    Create any new force user at this point and they going to share some of the same flavors of force powers. Just like Luke and Obi-Wan share a Force Push ability and Anakin and Kylo share a Force Pull ability, they are different. Mace Windu used these powers in Canon and he would feel unique.

    100% this, he should've been added instead of Anakin. I can't think ONE aspect of Ashoka that isn't already in the game.

    Fixed that for you. This is the main reason I’m on another game now.
  • CC_1010
    1057 posts Member
    Vapaad could function like this:
    When Mace Windu blocks lightsaber and Force attacks his abilities cool down faster and his health regenerates.
    When enemy’s deal damage to him, his damage with the lightsaber increases.
  • hsf_
    1817 posts Member
    edited April 18
    CC_1010 wrote: »
    Vapaad could function like this:
    When Mace Windu blocks lightsaber and Force attacks his abilities cool down faster and his health regenerates.
    When enemy’s deal damage to him, his damage with the lightsaber increases.

    You could actually set his Vapaad to do bonus damage based on his missing health. For example:

    *Base damage 150
    -10% health 160 damage
    -20% health 170 damage
    -30% health 180 damage
    -40% health 190 damage
    -50% health 200 damage
    all the way to -90% health where he does 320 damage.
    Edit: Just for clarification, these are just example numbers, I'm not saying these are the numbers that should be used.
  • CC_1010
    1057 posts Member
    hsf_ wrote: »
    CC_1010 wrote: »
    Vapaad could function like this:
    When Mace Windu blocks lightsaber and Force attacks his abilities cool down faster and his health regenerates.
    When enemy’s deal damage to him, his damage with the lightsaber increases.

    You could actually set his Vapaad to do bonus damage based on his missing health. For example:

    *Base damage 150
    -10% health 160 damage
    -20% health 170 damage
    -30% health 180 damage
    -40% health 190 damage
    -50% health 200 damage
    all the way to -90% health where he does 320 damage.
    Edit: Just for clarification, these are just example numbers, I'm not saying these are the numbers that should be used.

    That would also be cool.
    Mace should really be added to bf2.
  • Raices wrote: »
    Jakeman wrote: »
    Honestly these are not very unique. I like the time you put into this, but sadly, you proved his point.

    Create any new force user at this point and they going to share some of the same flavors of force powers. Just like Luke and Obi-Wan share a Force Push ability and Anakin and Kylo share a Force Pull ability, they are different. Mace Windu used these powers in Canon and he would feel unique.

    100% this, he should've been added instead of Anakin. I can't think ONE aspect of Ashoka that isn't already in the game.

    Fixed that for you. This is the main reason I’m on another game now.

    Add a small character of the main character of the entire two trilogies? No chance.
    You guys are gonna make me rich......
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    XJO461
    That Specialist rework was disappointing.
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  • Raices
    1151 posts Member
    CC_1010 wrote: »
    Vapaad could function like this:
    When Mace Windu blocks lightsaber and Force attacks his abilities cool down faster and his health regenerates.
    When enemy’s deal damage to him, his damage with the lightsaber increases.

    Vaapad could also make Mace stronger the closer he gets to enemy villains, kinda the way Vader's trait worked in BF15.
  • Gonna say it... while I'd prefer Ahsoka over Mace, this concept is top notch and I'd be excited for it! I hope they would add an ROTS outfit for Sheev alongside this drop. Maybe even give him a 4th ability rework that swaps his jazz hands for a saber or two!
  • freshseth83
    327 posts Member
    edited April 18
    Mace should have 800 health, deal 140 damage per strike, run as fast as Luke and jump as high as Palpatine. He's the co-strongest Jedi Master there is. His only equal is Yoda, even Anakin says this in the films. That might be a little overboard but he needs to be a straight-up beast. He doesn't need to have crowd control, one-shot abilities like Anakin. He just needs to be able to be played like his character portrays him to be.

    BASE STATS

    -800 health
    -300 health regen
    -1.5 second regen delay
    -110 health regen per second
    -18 saber strikes block stamina
    -30 blaster shots block stamina
    -minimal blaster deflect spread (.35)
    -1.5 second stamina regen delay
    -2.5 second stamina full recharge
    -140 damage per swing (+25 rear)
    -not the fastest swing but not the slowest (Obi-Wan's speed?)
    -run as fast as Luke or Maul
    -jump as high as Palpatine
    -2 dashes but distance equal to Palpatine (equal longest dash in-game)

    3 ABILITIES

    -L1; Force Crush, 160 damage (works like push or pull, ranged attack that lifts and squeezes like a choke, 10-15m) lifts and crushes enemies in a 150-degree, 15-meter radius/range. (16 second cooldown)

    -L1+R1; Vapaad, 10-15 seconds (aoe ability, low-damage and draining ability like Dark Aura with damage reduction?) aoe-type ability that slowly drains enemies health while increasing damage done on those affected. (20 second cooldown)

    -R1- Shatterpoint; single-use (dash targeting ability, multiple targets/single-saber strikes, like Kylo's Frenzy but with a targeting system like Lando's sharp-shot?) with a unique glass-shattering animation after hit(s). (18 second cooldown)

    STARCARDS

    No clue what kinda of starcards to give him, but the typical increased stamina, increased health, further target distance for Shatterpoint etc.
  • Love it. Definitely one of the core heros needed to be added.
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