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Concepts for potential maps:
https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/126706/a-list-of-maps-they-could-add-to-this-game-spoiler-alert-its-a-long-list#latest
This is hilarious!
Concepts for potential maps:
https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/126706/a-list-of-maps-they-could-add-to-this-game-spoiler-alert-its-a-long-list#latest
It is though.
The OP saw that a seemingly “known” YouTuber played the game for the first time in awhile, enjoyed it, & had positive things to say. The OP apparently thought this was cool, & wanted to share it with the forum.
That’s it.
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Just ignore the haters. For some reason they got to your thread early.
I don’t know Jackfrags but I know Shroud via Dr Disrespect and saw he played the other day. The comments were overwhelmingly positive and I definitely think people decide to come back or give it a try after something like that happens.
That's actually you whenever someone doesn't suck up to DICE
Bingo
Before this video he posted one on Starwars Republic Commando reviving the first time he played it when he was 19. So, he's not a kid and apparently he likes Starwars...
I bought BF2 a week ago and enjoying... Having almost 3000 hours on Battlefield 4 I can only say Capital Supremacy is my favourite although Galactic Assault has some nice maps. If only these where wider and played for longer. Rounds just seem a meat grind...
Gameplay wise, there is challenge to it and Aerial troopers are soooooo fun 🙂
Welcome to the fray 😁
What?!? It's the least challenging game I've ever played. Typically, Battlefield players are more skilled. Is it because you aren't used to third-person?
The proverbial “No, you!” elementary response.
Color me shocked
Dice sucks & this game has a plethora of issues, so..swing & a miss on that one.
You used the "triggered" snowflake gif. That's an elementary insult, no?
Indeed, but those who label and slander often are the MOST defensive...after all getting their own medicine is something they can't accept. Psychologists refer to it as a low self esteem issue.
Wouldn't surprise me, along with youtubers who work with Bethesda, youtubers who work with EA are considered to be paid off by many.
I really don't understand it either, for what reason should anyone believe the "launch day numbers" comment?
What do you mean "loads of new people"? Considering that Jackfrags is a battlefield channel it is most likely that the grand majority of the viewers have already made up their mind about the game. Who knows how many of the viewers were people who already play this game and just watched to see what jack thought about the game.
An actual comment on the video! I remember when he said that. LOL!! Jackfrags has a lot of funny and timely sayings in his videos.
At the beginning, he's on his way to take point A. A heavy is in sentry mode. Right as Jack remarks on how cool the minigun is, the heavy gets killed..."Oh no, he was cut down in his prime." LOL!!
He's known for Battlefield, but a lot of people know Battlefront as having Conquest mode. There's appeal there for Battlefield fans. Remember the original Battlefront games lifted Conquest from Battlefield. Long time fans know this and want Conquest gameplay back in Battlefront. CS at least gives some of that in Phase 1.
BFV is not doing so hot, and as good as BF4 is, it's over 5 years old. I was a Socom 2 and Socom 3 player way back when the original games came out. I would shift to Battlefront when I got tired of the competitive nature of Socom. So yeah, I could see the same happening for Battlefield fans and this game. Battlefront has always been more casual than Battlefield. It could be a change of pace.
This does happen, but Jackfrags says right at the beginning he was watching Battlefront Updates playing Capital Supremacy. That's what got him interested in it.
I think they are required to tell you when they are sponsored. For instance, if EA pays Shroud to play Battlefront 2, he has to put in his stream title that he's being sponsored. You see that all the time on Twitch. Star Wars HQ and other Star Wars YouTubers will always tell you when they are showing you gameplay from a paid event, or if they've been flown out to DICE, etc.
CS doesn't hold a candle to Conquest on Battlefield.
Factual evidence shows BFV is more popular than BF17.
So what? Now we are pretending BFV has some thriving community? Everyone knows the game has struggled since launch. It's been perpetually on sale for $29.99 since two weeks after launch. LOL!!
But again, read the post. Battlefront 2 doesn't have to replace BFV. It can just be a change of pace. Right now BFV players are getting tired of the lack of maps and content, and are basically waiting on a huge Pacific theater update that is said to be coming in the fall. Meanwhile, Battlefront 2 has been in the press a lot lately for what is generally perceived to be good updates. CS is not Conquest, but it's close enough. Jackfrags enjoyed himself with it.
it'll be close enough if they axe the capital ship phase. Even fragman himself couldn't compliment the mode without mentioning how CQ would be better
You can't have it both ways. It BFV "isn't doing so hot," then BF15 isn't having the awesome revival you suggest. Your bias is showing.
There are still people out there who think that the game has loot crates even though they were removed before launch. The game was made to be something that wasn’t cool to play when it was released.
Most of the people who are on here have been playing for a year and half now and forget how great this game is at looking, sounding, and feeling like Star Wars. And honestly that’s what most people play the game for.
It was funny to watch him in that video have no idea what Obi Wan’s abilities were or how to use him, but just be so stoked about getting to be Obi Wan.
So yes, this video might not be a massive boost to the game in and of itself. But it is definitely part of a trend of good publicity that this game has been getting. People seem to be interested in giving it another shot. Probably because they got a Star Wars itch after celebration and that EpIX trailer. And this game is designed to scratch that itch.
So BFV is struggling and them selling it for $30.00 is evidence of that but BF2 selling for significantly less isn't evidence of it doing poorly? Where is BF2 getting good press lately? This one video that was most likely watched by people who are well aware of bf2's state is hardy press.
CS is and never will be "close enough" to real conquest. A nonlinear big mode was requested, we got domination (which lasts like 10 minutes) fused with a GA phase.
He complimented the mode just fine, but he did suggest we need Conquest. I posted that on page one before this train of an argument started. But again, that's also a good thing. Jackfrags adds to the list of YouTubers DICE deals with that want Conquest in Battlefront. DICE does care what these guys say, regardless of what people in here want to think.
^This guy gets it.
Star Wars YouTubers talk about how there's a lot of people who think loot boxes are still a problem in Battlefront 2. Battlefront 2 fell completely off the radar for them. So like Jackfrags in this video, they are going to have a totally different perspective when seeing this game again. Jackfrags was laughing and having a good time. He's not even looking at the things people complain about on these forums.
He's also not been around playing while the developers have ignored meaningful concerns and broken promises, such as adding new weapons. It's been a year and a half since release. Why did this game launch without basic features and content BF15 included?
So are we back to the perpetual "hoping for CQ" phase again? Everybody's been asking for a non linear large mode, in the form of CQ, since launch haven't they? And we got CS instead for absolutely no reason. What's the point of the non linear mode when half of it, including the victory condition, is GA 2.0?
Guys BFV has been on sale since two weeks after launch. It had a bad launch, not unlike Battlefront 2. But the fact is, Battlefield is, and has always been, a more popular series. Yes they have more players. But relatively speaking, BFV is struggling. They had low content at launch. They were missing game modes like Rush mode. They launched with just 8 maps and have only added a couple since launch. Firestorm isn't something most Battlefield fans are interested in. It's not been good.
What you guys don't want to realize is there is so much missing from this game that creates the overall Conquest experience we know from Battlefield and even the original Battlefront games.
Another Battlefield YouTuber named Westie uploaded a video of BF4 the other day. The phrase he used to describe it was "the theater of it". He was talking about how BFV was largely missing the elements that make the Battlefield chaos of the series. He was on Paracel Storm. There were boats, planes, helicopters, vehicles, troops, explosions, etc. everywhere. He just stopped and laughed while taking it all in. People used to do that with Battlefront way back with the original games too.
BFV was its own debacle.
I tried the beta and 10 hour access and thought it was terrible game play wise.
I ignored the customization debate judging the game, though the constant women screaming in a WW2 atmosphere felt out of place.
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Me too. The beta was really bad. The maps were small to medium sized. There was maybe a couple of vehicles on each map. The CS phase 1 maps we have are better to be honest, with more vehicles and chaos going on you'd expect from Conquest.
I play BF4 if I want a Battlefield fix...last night actually LOL. Supposedly BFV is getting a major update in the fall with Pacific Theater content.
I enjoy Battlefield 1, but never played the others. WW1 sounded different from everything else the last few years so I gave it a go.
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For sure. I'm just trying to make the point that Battlefront can't be labeled as some miraculous comeback story when it is less popular than the BFV game he describes as "not doing so hot."
I'm not sure it's for "no reason". I think they were looking for a game mode for the Clone Wars content. It ties better in with that era, given the large scale battles.
But it's also given people a taste for Conquest and almost certainly raised the cry for a legit Conquest mode. For all we know, that's what they are doing. What if that's what they announce with the new roadmap, starting with OT era maps?
Player population is hidden for both, both forums are miserable, both forums say the games are too casual (I can't say if I agree for BFV or not, since I don't play it), plus a bunch of other issues
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Nice! I think BF1 was mostly well received. I passed on it because I went with Titanfall 2 instead. Both launched at the same time, and I enjoyed the Titanfall 2 beta much more than BF1. I've been playing the Battlefield series since Battlefield 2 way back in 2005. BF1 was the first DICE Battlefield game I had skipped on, and I haven't gotten BFV yet.
BF4 still has a lot of people playing. I play on PS4 and have no problems finding games, especially with the launch maps. It's maintained a community because it's the last modern warfare Battlefield, and it has much larger vehicles counts than BF1 or BFV. Its cheap too if you want to try it out LOL
Yeah they don’t announce much.
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
Mmmmmkay
I hope my future customers are like this. It would keep me from implementing a CRM system, saving the company millions.
Battlefield V has more active players. It's been well ahead of BF17 on Microsoft's official tracker for quite some time.
Yeah it hasn't been pretty. Thanks for the numbers. I never saw exact counts. I just know BFV has been heavily discounted since a couple weeks after launch. It was real quick. A lot of Battlefield players are back on BF4 and BF1 until they get BFV sorted out.
I'm keeping an eye out for the Pacific theater content this fall. If it's any good, maybe I'll pick it up then. The biggest issue most seem to have is where's the scale of the battles? Like Westie said in his BF4 video "the theater of it". WW2 should be a setting where they could load the maps with all kinds of heavy vehicle and "Battlefield" action the series is known for. The series started with Battlefield 1942 after all, and Wake Island remains one of the most popular maps in the series.
According to Microsoft, Battlefield V is the 20th most popular game on XB1. Battlefield 4 isn't currently in the top 48. Regardless of playercount, Battlefield 4 is still a much better game.
Considering Xbox 360 players wouldn't make a difference either. As population trackers show, there aren't many BF4 players on the 360 anymore. http://bf4stats.com/
I play on PS4 which has about twice the player base of XB1. I never have any problems finding full servers of BF4, including some with DLC maps mixed in. I also don't have problems finding any games of Battlefront 2 modes. I can find HvV, Ewok Hunt, SA...modes people on other platforms have a hard time finding.
BFV is likely going to have a higher count because it's the new thing. BF4 is over 5 years old, and there's people tired of it. One interesting point though is that DICE last summer had a special event in both BF1 and BF4 to unlock skins for BFV. I'm sure they did that because there's a significant enough player base in BF4.