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Finn's 50% damage reduction is not balanced & never has been

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Thechosen1_anakin
8085 posts Member
edited May 14
50% damage reduction every 9 seconds is broken!!!

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Yoda & Finn's health buffs/damage reduction should also not be combining at all. You should just get yoda's health or damage reduction & that's it not both.
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Now this is just in hero modes but, in GA it's disgustingly broken. Some people would say "Vader with 50% damage reduction would break him" yet vader can only get focused rage every 22 seconds where finn's comes back in 9 seconds. It takes 7 hits to kill 1 heavy buffed by Finn. Now imagine 5 wookie warriors & 5 arc troopers etc walking around with 50% damage reduction. Finn is slept on because he doesn't have a lightsaber but if a single melee character having 50% damage reduction is broken then Finn giving 19 other players damage reduction is broken. Nerf finn's damage reduction on allies to 25% like vaders or give vader 50% damage reduction.

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  • GenxDarchi
    7726 posts Member
    Just give Vader 55% damage reduction. Finn isn't picked enough tbh, and he'd need a bunch of reworks.
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  • KresusFIN
    2786 posts Member
    Shhhhh!

    People might actually start thinking with their brains, and pick Finn more often than any other blaster in either mode!
    Finn is slept on because he doesn't have a lightsaber

    They're welcome to keep ignoring him. I'll just stand next to you, shoot people in the face and Big Deal stays up eternally.
    Heart of darkness beateth, Ultima
    Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
    Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
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    The fact is that if you're running it's because you suck, and the game shouldn't pander to players who suck.

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    "I have never died to a Finn"
  • If you nerf Finn's Big Deal (i.e. pretty much the only reason to use him outside of the occasional Deadeye) then he'll just fall behind even further as he has no AoE and means of attacking a defending saber user because he has no explosives or force powers, just a gun for all three of his abilities. He is designed to give up some offensive power in favor of focusing on Support.

    The only thing I could see is reducing his Damage Reduction to 35%, BUT for me to agree to even that would require addressing some of Finn's other weaknesses, being mobility (by allowing him to sprint during Big Deal and buff his movement speed during Undercover Team) and partially un-nerfing his Deadeye.
  • Is the value of 50% stated anywhere, or tested in any video? I've never ever tested the value, but a tooltip on the game says the reduction increases for the more allies you affect. But even tooltips in this game are known to lie, so I have no idea how it works.
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  • Is the value of 50% stated anywhere, or tested in any video? I've never ever tested the value, but a tooltip on the game says the reduction increases for the more allies you affect. But even tooltips in this game are known to lie, so I have no idea how it works.

    Fascinating, I just tested it in Arcade Splitscreen. If Finn is alone with Big Deal, he only gets 25% damage reduction. I tested using Darth Maul, who deals 120 damage per saber swing from the front. With Big Deal active and alone, Finn received 90 damage, 75% of Maul's default (thus 25% reduction.)
  • Admiral_Xen
    2757 posts Member
    It's especially fun when stacked with other Damage Reduction effects. (Use Leia's E-11 card and lol as you take only 30-40 damage per saber hit).

    Meanwhile in GA, your heavies become wookiees and WW's become ranged, nuke throwing Vaders. Laughably broken
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  • Lagodaki
    912 posts Member
    That’s all he has though, he is getting a buff so we’ll see how that plays out
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  • KresusFIN
    2786 posts Member
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    I guess I'm just a figment of everyone's imagination, then, because I for one, have no qualms picking one of the top 3 highest value heroes in GA if I get a chance.
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    Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
    Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
    Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima


    The fact is that if you're running it's because you suck, and the game shouldn't pander to players who suck.

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    "I have never died to a Finn"
  • Batman20
    2010 posts Member
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    I guess I'm just a figment of everyone's imagination, then, because I for one, have no qualms picking one of the top 3 highest value heroes in GA if I get a chance.

    I haven't come across a finn in GA or HvV for ages there is just so many better alternatives
  • ZephanUnbound
    3066 posts Member
    edited May 14
    Big Deal is basically the only thing that makes Finn worth picking in HvV. His blaster DPS is poor, for both his main gun and his Undercover Team Glie, and he has no abilities that can damage blocking saber villains unlike most of the other blaster characters. So yeah, I am against nerfing Big Deal until both his standard blaster and his Glie are buffed considerably. Give his standard blaster a damage buff and his Glie a damage buff with maybe 25% of the Glie's damage hurting through block. Then you can nerf big deal damage reduction down to like 25% while also allowing Finn to sprint during big deal.
  • Lee1981
    1985 posts Member
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks
    Nerf Finn... You just recycle the nerf/buff list continuously don’t you.
    Agreed
  • JediJulius wrote: »
    Is the value of 50% stated anywhere, or tested in any video? I've never ever tested the value, but a tooltip on the game says the reduction increases for the more allies you affect. But even tooltips in this game are known to lie, so I have no idea how it works.

    Fascinating, I just tested it in Arcade Splitscreen. If Finn is alone with Big Deal, he only gets 25% damage reduction. I tested using Darth Maul, who deals 120 damage per saber swing from the front. With Big Deal active and alone, Finn received 90 damage, 75% of Maul's default (thus 25% reduction.)

    Finn gets 25% allies get 50
  • Lagodaki wrote: »
    That’s all he has though, he is getting a buff so we’ll see how that plays out

    So buff vader to 50%
  • Nerf Finn... You just recycle the nerf/buff list continuously don’t you.

    I just know what's op
  • TheUltimateHope
    1251 posts Member
    edited May 14
    Lagodaki wrote: »
    That’s all he has though, he is getting a buff so we’ll see how that plays out

    So buff vader to 50%

    There is no so, it has to happen. No matter what people say, it'll never be 1/100 as broken . And for people talking about supposedly making him broken in HvV well with the new system i'm just laughing at them.
    Finn will become even more prevalent, no more need to split up whatsoever.
  • Batman20 wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    I guess I'm just a figment of everyone's imagination, then, because I for one, have no qualms picking one of the top 3 highest value heroes in GA if I get a chance.

    I haven't come across a finn in GA or HvV for ages there is just so many better alternatives

    There isn't a single hero besides anakin that's better than him 😞
  • Lagodaki wrote: »
    That’s all he has though, he is getting a buff so we’ll see how that plays out

    So buff vader to 50%

    There is no so, it has to happen. No matter what people say, it'll never be 1/100 as broken . And for people talking about supposedly making him broken in HvV well with the new system i'm just laughing at them.
    Finn will become even more prevalent, no more need to split up whatsoever.

    Exactly
  • Lee1981
    1985 posts Member
    Batman20 wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    I guess I'm just a figment of everyone's imagination, then, because I for one, have no qualms picking one of the top 3 highest value heroes in GA if I get a chance.

    I haven't come across a finn in GA or HvV for ages there is just so many better alternatives

    There isn't a single hero besides anakin that's better than him 😞
    Just when I think you can’t possibly get anymore ridiculous you post this

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  • Lee1981 wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    I guess I'm just a figment of everyone's imagination, then, because I for one, have no qualms picking one of the top 3 highest value heroes in GA if I get a chance.

    I haven't come across a finn in GA or HvV for ages there is just so many better alternatives

    There isn't a single hero besides anakin that's better than him 😞
    Just when I think you can’t possibly get anymore ridiculous you post this

    5ehb53z9vfuq.gif

    So 50% damage reduction to allies, unlimited firing, faster cooldowns, 120 health which can come back in 9 seconds & cover a radius bigger than heroic might is beaten by what hero
  • Lee1981
    1985 posts Member
    Lee1981 wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    I guess I'm just a figment of everyone's imagination, then, because I for one, have no qualms picking one of the top 3 highest value heroes in GA if I get a chance.

    I haven't come across a finn in GA or HvV for ages there is just so many better alternatives

    There isn't a single hero besides anakin that's better than him 😞
    Just when I think you can’t possibly get anymore ridiculous you post this

    5ehb53z9vfuq.gif

    So 50% damage reduction to allies, unlimited firing, faster cooldowns, 120 health which can come back in 9 seconds & cover a radius bigger than heroic might is beaten by what hero
    Most players who get hero’s want to go on massive killstreaks with them

    Not camping objectives buffing the team for the game to end in an early phase

    There is a reason Finn is hardly ever seen because he isn’t fun to play or get big killstreaks

    Seriously who wastes their points on a hero to buff your team in a game where winning or losing is irrelevant and not rewarded

    I bet you don’t
  • KresusFIN
    2786 posts Member
    Lee1981 wrote: »
    Lee1981 wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    I guess I'm just a figment of everyone's imagination, then, because I for one, have no qualms picking one of the top 3 highest value heroes in GA if I get a chance.

    I haven't come across a finn in GA or HvV for ages there is just so many better alternatives

    There isn't a single hero besides anakin that's better than him 😞
    Just when I think you can’t possibly get anymore ridiculous you post this

    5ehb53z9vfuq.gif

    So 50% damage reduction to allies, unlimited firing, faster cooldowns, 120 health which can come back in 9 seconds & cover a radius bigger than heroic might is beaten by what hero
    Most players who get hero’s want to go on massive killstreaks with them

    Not camping objectives buffing the team for the game to end in an early phase

    There is a reason Finn is hardly ever seen because he isn’t fun to play or get big killstreaks

    Seriously who wastes their points on a hero to buff your team in a game where winning or losing is irrelevant and not rewarded

    I bet you don’t

    I do.
    Heart of darkness beateth, Ultima
    Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
    Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
    Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima


    The fact is that if you're running it's because you suck, and the game shouldn't pander to players who suck.

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    "I have never died to a Finn"
  • Lee1981
    1985 posts Member
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    Lee1981 wrote: »
    Lee1981 wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    I guess I'm just a figment of everyone's imagination, then, because I for one, have no qualms picking one of the top 3 highest value heroes in GA if I get a chance.

    I haven't come across a finn in GA or HvV for ages there is just so many better alternatives

    There isn't a single hero besides anakin that's better than him 😞
    Just when I think you can’t possibly get anymore ridiculous you post this

    5ehb53z9vfuq.gif

    So 50% damage reduction to allies, unlimited firing, faster cooldowns, 120 health which can come back in 9 seconds & cover a radius bigger than heroic might is beaten by what hero
    Most players who get hero’s want to go on massive killstreaks with them

    Not camping objectives buffing the team for the game to end in an early phase

    There is a reason Finn is hardly ever seen because he isn’t fun to play or get big killstreaks

    Seriously who wastes their points on a hero to buff your team in a game where winning or losing is irrelevant and not rewarded

    I bet you don’t

    I do.
    How boring
  • Lee1981 wrote: »
    Lee1981 wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    KresusFIN wrote: »
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    I guess I'm just a figment of everyone's imagination, then, because I for one, have no qualms picking one of the top 3 highest value heroes in GA if I get a chance.

    I haven't come across a finn in GA or HvV for ages there is just so many better alternatives

    There isn't a single hero besides anakin that's better than him 😞
    Just when I think you can’t possibly get anymore ridiculous you post this

    5ehb53z9vfuq.gif

    So 50% damage reduction to allies, unlimited firing, faster cooldowns, 120 health which can come back in 9 seconds & cover a radius bigger than heroic might is beaten by what hero
    Most players who get hero’s want to go on massive killstreaks with them

    Not camping objectives buffing the team for the game to end in an early phase

    There is a reason Finn is hardly ever seen because he isn’t fun to play or get big killstreaks

    Seriously who wastes their points on a hero to buff your team in a game where winning or losing is irrelevant and not rewarded

    I bet you don’t



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  • Nerf Finn... You just recycle the nerf/buff list continuously don’t you.

    I just know what's op
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    Worst hero?? You clearly aren't good at the game if you think Finn isn't one of the best heroes in GA. He's the best blaster hero in the game.

    What you also know is that some folks are going to disagree with you, and you will then tell them that they aren’t good at the game. It's nothing less than blatant at this point. It’s like your M.O. for all your nerf/buff threads. Lay the foundation to set someone up so you can puff up your game knowledge while deriding them. Jeez man...

    Yes, Finn can be a surprisingly powerful support hero in the right hands, particularly in GA. He’s far from top tier overall for one reason... He’s the weakest 1v1 hero on the board.

    He’s also one of, if not absolute least played hero.

    No nerf necessary. He’s not OP.

    The way you nitpick, you can come up with reasons the every hero is OP. Nerf them all I guess right? Just stop.

    This isn't a,1v1 game now is it? Finn's is the second most powerful hero in the game thanks to big deal. Least played because he doesn't have a lightsaber doesnt mean he's not powerful. I'll take Finn over every lightsaber hero in the besides anakin.
  • It's especially fun when stacked with other Damage Reduction effects. (Use Leia's E-11 card and lol as you take only 30-40 damage per saber hit).

    Meanwhile in GA, your heavies become wookiees and WW's become ranged, nuke throwing Vaders. Laughably broken

    Exactly. These forums members aren't woke enough
  • Psy3d
    882 posts Member
    edited May 14
    Finn's been a super officer since launch...dunno why it's an issue now. Or is it people finally figured out how to use other heroes and combo thier abilities?

    Obi and Rey can seriously cripple whole DS in HvV if they combine thier mind trick moves...even more if they have the star cards for those abilities.
  • Psy3d wrote: »
    Finn's been a super officer since launch...dunno why it's an issue now. Or is it people finally figured out how to use other heroes and combo thier abilities?

    Obi and Rey can seriously cripple whole DS in HvV if they combine thier mind trick moves...even more if they have the star cards for those abilities.

    Nah it's been an issue. People just don't know about Finn cause he's lame to many when he's a dope hero
  • Nerf Finn... You just recycle the nerf/buff list continuously don’t you.

    I just know what's op
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    Worst hero?? You clearly aren't good at the game if you think Finn isn't one of the best heroes in GA. He's the best blaster hero in the game.

    What you also know is that some folks are going to disagree with you, and you will then tell them that they aren’t good at the game. It's nothing less than blatant at this point. It’s like your M.O. for all your nerf/buff threads. Lay the foundation to set someone up so you can puff up your game knowledge while deriding them. Jeez man...

    Yes, Finn can be a surprisingly powerful support hero in the right hands, particularly in GA. He’s far from top tier overall for one reason... He’s the weakest 1v1 hero on the board.

    He’s also one of, if not absolute least played hero.

    No nerf necessary. He’s not OP.

    The way you nitpick, you can come up with reasons the every hero is OP. Nerf them all I guess right? Just stop.

    This isn't a,1v1 game now is it? Finn's is the second most powerful hero in the game thanks to big deal. Least played because he doesn't have a lightsaber doesnt mean he's not powerful. I'll take Finn over every lightsaber hero in the besides anakin.

    Nice... You spout out all these comparisons regarding 1v1’s when it suits you. You do it often to make points regarding HvV.

    Now? You literally flip the script.

    Transparent man. Really.

    Look. I know what Finn can do in GA. I know you know what you’re talking about. Well, for the most part at least. But nerfing Finn is just silly. It’s not about the numbers, the percentages and all that. His presence in this game is scarce at best and aside from a few key choke point phases in GA, he’s not really impacting matches that much. Yes, theoretically he can... I’ve done it, you’ve done it, others have too, but honestly when I see another player playing Finn to his team’s success, be it mine or my opponents, I’m happy about it. It’s cool just to see it because it’s that rare.

    He’s a very good support hero. He’s maybe the best support hero. But in no way shape or form is he OP.
  • And it's still not a task at all to take down Finn with even an Assault Class blaster. He just doesn't last long in a choke point fight anyway. He doesn't even have a "magic block" like the saber weilders... he's highly susceptible to everyone's damage output. Why take away something he can hardly survive long enough to use much?
  • Nerf Finn... You just recycle the nerf/buff list continuously don’t you.

    I just know what's op
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    Worst hero?? You clearly aren't good at the game if you think Finn isn't one of the best heroes in GA. He's the best blaster hero in the game.

    What you also know is that some folks are going to disagree with you, and you will then tell them that they aren’t good at the game. It's nothing less than blatant at this point. It’s like your M.O. for all your nerf/buff threads. Lay the foundation to set someone up so you can puff up your game knowledge while deriding them. Jeez man...

    Yes, Finn can be a surprisingly powerful support hero in the right hands, particularly in GA. He’s far from top tier overall for one reason... He’s the weakest 1v1 hero on the board.

    He’s also one of, if not absolute least played hero.

    No nerf necessary. He’s not OP.

    The way you nitpick, you can come up with reasons the every hero is OP. Nerf them all I guess right? Just stop.

    This isn't a,1v1 game now is it? Finn's is the second most powerful hero in the game thanks to big deal. Least played because he doesn't have a lightsaber doesnt mean he's not powerful. I'll take Finn over every lightsaber hero in the besides anakin.

    Nice... You spout out all these comparisons regarding 1v1’s when it suits you. You do it often to make points regarding HvV.

    Now? You literally flip the script.

    Transparent man. Really.

    Look. I know what Finn can do in GA. I know you know what you’re talking about. Well, for the most part at least. But nerfing Finn is just silly. It’s not about the numbers, the percentages and all that. His presence in this game is scarce at best and aside from a few key choke point phases in GA, he’s not really impacting matches that much. Yes, theoretically he can... I’ve done it, you’ve done it, others have too, but honestly when I see another player playing Finn to his team’s success, be it mine or my opponents, I’m happy about it. It’s cool just to see it because it’s that rare.

    He’s a very good support hero. He’s maybe the best support hero. But in no way shape or form is he OP.

    I'm talking GA & have been this whole entire thread & his impact on it. 😞 Finn is lame & or weak to some so you won't see him over other heroes. Like I said I'll take him over anyone besides anakin. No other hero besides anakin can cheese your side to a win
  • Nerf Finn... You just recycle the nerf/buff list continuously don’t you.

    I just know what's op
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    Worst hero?? You clearly aren't good at the game if you think Finn isn't one of the best heroes in GA. He's the best blaster hero in the game.

    What you also know is that some folks are going to disagree with you, and you will then tell them that they aren’t good at the game. It's nothing less than blatant at this point. It’s like your M.O. for all your nerf/buff threads. Lay the foundation to set someone up so you can puff up your game knowledge while deriding them. Jeez man...

    Yes, Finn can be a surprisingly powerful support hero in the right hands, particularly in GA. He’s far from top tier overall for one reason... He’s the weakest 1v1 hero on the board.

    He’s also one of, if not absolute least played hero.

    No nerf necessary. He’s not OP.

    The way you nitpick, you can come up with reasons the every hero is OP. Nerf them all I guess right? Just stop.

    This isn't a,1v1 game now is it? Finn's is the second most powerful hero in the game thanks to big deal. Least played because he doesn't have a lightsaber doesnt mean he's not powerful. I'll take Finn over every lightsaber hero in the besides anakin.

    Nice... You spout out all these comparisons regarding 1v1’s when it suits you. You do it often to make points regarding HvV.

    Now? You literally flip the script.

    Transparent man. Really.

    Look. I know what Finn can do in GA. I know you know what you’re talking about. Well, for the most part at least. But nerfing Finn is just silly. It’s not about the numbers, the percentages and all that. His presence in this game is scarce at best and aside from a few key choke point phases in GA, he’s not really impacting matches that much. Yes, theoretically he can... I’ve done it, you’ve done it, others have too, but honestly when I see another player playing Finn to his team’s success, be it mine or my opponents, I’m happy about it. It’s cool just to see it because it’s that rare.

    He’s a very good support hero. He’s maybe the best support hero. But in no way shape or form is he OP.

    I'm talking GA & have been this whole entire thread & his impact on it. 😞 Finn is lame & or weak to some so you won't see him over other heroes. Like I said I'll take him over anyone besides anakin. No other hero besides anakin can cheese your side to a win

    So what you’re saying is, that you are actively looking to play Finn in all GA LS matches, just because of his in-game buff numbers.

    You go for Anakin, but take Finn next if Anakin is unavailable? Every time? Is that your game? Pure number crunching every match?
  • Admiral_Xen
    2757 posts Member
    I will say if they were to ever nerf his stats (or not) they need to actually start giving him assists/BP for both his buffs.

    I think a lot of the reason you don't see him despite his undeniable effectiveness; it's hard to top score with him.

    Like why do Rey and Officers get assist points but not Finn? What is the logic? Is it because he's black?
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  • Bandicoot
    956 posts Member
    I will say if they were to ever nerf his stats (or not) they need to actually start giving him assists/BP for both his buffs.

    I think a lot of the reason you don't see him despite his undeniable effectiveness; it's hard to top score with him.

    Like why do Rey and Officers get assist points but not Finn? What is the logic? Is it because he's black?

    Yoda doesn't either. And Rey should never get them.
  • I will say if they were to ever nerf his stats (or not) they need to actually start giving him assists/BP for both his buffs.

    I think a lot of the reason you don't see him despite his undeniable effectiveness; it's hard to top score with him.

    Like why do Rey and Officers get assist points but not Finn? What is the logic? Is it because he's black?

    Careful...

    I agree with you, there are many such discrepancies like that.

    There is no logic to it. It’s the same reasoning that explains why Mace Windu isn’t in this game.

    Oh, yeah... Careful...
  • KresusFIN
    2786 posts Member
    I will say if they were to ever nerf his stats (or not) they need to actually start giving him assists/BP for both his buffs.

    I think a lot of the reason you don't see him despite his undeniable effectiveness; it's hard to top score with him.

    Like why do Rey and Officers get assist points but not Finn? What is the logic? Is it because he's black?

    That, combined with him not having a Lightsaber, if I had to guess.

    We all know DICE aren't particularly fond of giving good things to characters with blasters. "hur dur saberfront"
    Heart of darkness beateth, Ultima
    Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
    Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
    Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima


    The fact is that if you're running it's because you suck, and the game shouldn't pander to players who suck.

    y6qvidach2x9.png

    "I have never died to a Finn"
  • KresusFIN wrote: »
    I will say if they were to ever nerf his stats (or not) they need to actually start giving him assists/BP for both his buffs.

    I think a lot of the reason you don't see him despite his undeniable effectiveness; it's hard to top score with him.

    Like why do Rey and Officers get assist points but not Finn? What is the logic? Is it because he's black?

    That, combined with him not having a Lightsaber, if I had to guess.

    We all know DICE aren't particularly fond of giving good things to characters with blasters. "hur dur saberfront"
    Yet another good reason why Finn shouldn’t be nerfed.
  • Admiral_Xen
    2757 posts Member
    Bandicoot wrote: »
    I will say if they were to ever nerf his stats (or not) they need to actually start giving him assists/BP for both his buffs.

    I think a lot of the reason you don't see him despite his undeniable effectiveness; it's hard to top score with him.

    Like why do Rey and Officers get assist points but not Finn? What is the logic? Is it because he's black?

    Yoda doesn't either. And Rey should never get them.

    Green tumor shouldn't get assists until it actually becomes killable by literally anything else in the game again.

    Finn is squishy and has poor damage output. Rey is the weakest saber in the game. They should get assists.
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  • Nerf Finn... You just recycle the nerf/buff list continuously don’t you.

    I just know what's op
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    Worst hero?? You clearly aren't good at the game if you think Finn isn't one of the best heroes in GA. He's the best blaster hero in the game.

    What you also know is that some folks are going to disagree with you, and you will then tell them that they aren’t good at the game. It's nothing less than blatant at this point. It’s like your M.O. for all your nerf/buff threads. Lay the foundation to set someone up so you can puff up your game knowledge while deriding them. Jeez man...

    Yes, Finn can be a surprisingly powerful support hero in the right hands, particularly in GA. He’s far from top tier overall for one reason... He’s the weakest 1v1 hero on the board.

    He’s also one of, if not absolute least played hero.

    No nerf necessary. He’s not OP.

    The way you nitpick, you can come up with reasons the every hero is OP. Nerf them all I guess right? Just stop.

    This isn't a,1v1 game now is it? Finn's is the second most powerful hero in the game thanks to big deal. Least played because he doesn't have a lightsaber doesnt mean he's not powerful. I'll take Finn over every lightsaber hero in the besides anakin.

    Nice... You spout out all these comparisons regarding 1v1’s when it suits you. You do it often to make points regarding HvV.

    Now? You literally flip the script.

    Transparent man. Really.

    Look. I know what Finn can do in GA. I know you know what you’re talking about. Well, for the most part at least. But nerfing Finn is just silly. It’s not about the numbers, the percentages and all that. His presence in this game is scarce at best and aside from a few key choke point phases in GA, he’s not really impacting matches that much. Yes, theoretically he can... I’ve done it, you’ve done it, others have too, but honestly when I see another player playing Finn to his team’s success, be it mine or my opponents, I’m happy about it. It’s cool just to see it because it’s that rare.

    He’s a very good support hero. He’s maybe the best support hero. But in no way shape or form is he OP.

    I'm talking GA & have been this whole entire thread & his impact on it. 😞 Finn is lame & or weak to some so you won't see him over other heroes. Like I said I'll take him over anyone besides anakin. No other hero besides anakin can cheese your side to a win

    So what you’re saying is, that you are actively looking to play Finn in all GA LS matches, just because of his in-game buff numbers.

    You go for Anakin, but take Finn next if Anakin is unavailable? Every time? Is that your game? Pure number crunching every match?

    If anakin isn't available & I'm trying to win heck yeah. I will cheese my team to a victory & have.
  • Lagodaki
    912 posts Member
    edited May 14
    Yoda should get assists with Presence, they did nerf its effect on troopers after all. Yofinn died months ago too.

    But I understand buff spam still exists, maybe the DS can get a Hero that’s similar, Hux maybe, he’d be like a super officer. Or that tactical droid announcer lady “This was all your fault”

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  • Nerf Finn... You just recycle the nerf/buff list continuously don’t you.

    I just know what's op
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    Worst hero?? You clearly aren't good at the game if you think Finn isn't one of the best heroes in GA. He's the best blaster hero in the game.

    What you also know is that some folks are going to disagree with you, and you will then tell them that they aren’t good at the game. It's nothing less than blatant at this point. It’s like your M.O. for all your nerf/buff threads. Lay the foundation to set someone up so you can puff up your game knowledge while deriding them. Jeez man...

    Yes, Finn can be a surprisingly powerful support hero in the right hands, particularly in GA. He’s far from top tier overall for one reason... He’s the weakest 1v1 hero on the board.

    He’s also one of, if not absolute least played hero.

    No nerf necessary. He’s not OP.

    The way you nitpick, you can come up with reasons the every hero is OP. Nerf them all I guess right? Just stop.

    This isn't a,1v1 game now is it? Finn's is the second most powerful hero in the game thanks to big deal. Least played because he doesn't have a lightsaber doesnt mean he's not powerful. I'll take Finn over every lightsaber hero in the besides anakin.

    Nice... You spout out all these comparisons regarding 1v1’s when it suits you. You do it often to make points regarding HvV.

    Now? You literally flip the script.

    Transparent man. Really.

    Look. I know what Finn can do in GA. I know you know what you’re talking about. Well, for the most part at least. But nerfing Finn is just silly. It’s not about the numbers, the percentages and all that. His presence in this game is scarce at best and aside from a few key choke point phases in GA, he’s not really impacting matches that much. Yes, theoretically he can... I’ve done it, you’ve done it, others have too, but honestly when I see another player playing Finn to his team’s success, be it mine or my opponents, I’m happy about it. It’s cool just to see it because it’s that rare.

    He’s a very good support hero. He’s maybe the best support hero. But in no way shape or form is he OP.

    I'm talking GA & have been this whole entire thread & his impact on it. 😞 Finn is lame & or weak to some so you won't see him over other heroes. Like I said I'll take him over anyone besides anakin. No other hero besides anakin can cheese your side to a win

    So what you’re saying is, that you are actively looking to play Finn in all GA LS matches, just because of his in-game buff numbers.

    You go for Anakin, but take Finn next if Anakin is unavailable? Every time? Is that your game? Pure number crunching every match?

    If anakin isn't available & I'm trying to win heck yeah. I will cheese my team to a victory & have.

    Well that’s a big if and I ain’t buying it. You’re too good of a player for crutches.
  • Lagodaki wrote: »
    Yoda should get assists with Presence, they did nerf its effect on troopers after all. Yofinn died months ago too.

    But I understand buff spam still exists, maybe the DS can get a Hero that’s similar, Hux maybe, he’d be like a super officer. Or that tactical droid announcer lady “This was all your fault”

    Kylo should get assists for the frozen that others kill.
  • Lagodaki
    912 posts Member
    Lagodaki wrote: »
    Yoda should get assists with Presence, they did nerf its effect on troopers after all. Yofinn died months ago too.

    But I understand buff spam still exists, maybe the DS can get a Hero that’s similar, Hux maybe, he’d be like a super officer. Or that tactical droid announcer lady “This was all your fault”

    Kylo should get assists for the frozen that others kill.
    Yeah, especially since it doesn’t even last as long now. A slight annoyance
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  • Bandicoot
    956 posts Member
    Bandicoot wrote: »
    I will say if they were to ever nerf his stats (or not) they need to actually start giving him assists/BP for both his buffs.

    I think a lot of the reason you don't see him despite his undeniable effectiveness; it's hard to top score with him.

    Like why do Rey and Officers get assist points but not Finn? What is the logic? Is it because he's black?

    Yoda doesn't either. And Rey should never get them.

    Green tumor shouldn't get assists until it actually becomes killable by literally anything else in the game again.

    Finn is squishy and has poor damage output. Rey is the weakest saber in the game. They should get assists.

    Haha, it's true he's become a bit of a mini hulk, soon to be op. It's even more of a problem since saber hero's like to override iden's stun regularly. Imo no hero should get assist points for non damage dealing abilities, it would promote more corner camping Rey play styles.
  • Bandicoot wrote: »
    Bandicoot wrote: »
    I will say if they were to ever nerf his stats (or not) they need to actually start giving him assists/BP for both his buffs.

    I think a lot of the reason you don't see him despite his undeniable effectiveness; it's hard to top score with him.

    Like why do Rey and Officers get assist points but not Finn? What is the logic? Is it because he's black?

    Yoda doesn't either. And Rey should never get them.

    Green tumor shouldn't get assists until it actually becomes killable by literally anything else in the game again.

    Finn is squishy and has poor damage output. Rey is the weakest saber in the game. They should get assists.

    Haha, it's true he's become a bit of a mini hulk, soon to be op. It's even more of a problem since saber hero's like to override iden's stun regularly. Imo no hero should get assist points for non damage dealing abilities, it would promote more corner camping Rey play styles.

    In my opinion, no playable unit whatsoever should get credit for anything other that damage, kills, and objectives.
  • Nerf Finn... You just recycle the nerf/buff list continuously don’t you.

    I just know what's op
    Batman20 wrote: »
    Lol are you complaining about one of the worst heroes in the game who literally nobody picks

    Worst hero?? You clearly aren't good at the game if you think Finn isn't one of the best heroes in GA. He's the best blaster hero in the game.

    What you also know is that some folks are going to disagree with you, and you will then tell them that they aren’t good at the game. It's nothing less than blatant at this point. It’s like your M.O. for all your nerf/buff threads. Lay the foundation to set someone up so you can puff up your game knowledge while deriding them. Jeez man...

    Yes, Finn can be a surprisingly powerful support hero in the right hands, particularly in GA. He’s far from top tier overall for one reason... He’s the weakest 1v1 hero on the board.

    He’s also one of, if not absolute least played hero.

    No nerf necessary. He’s not OP.

    The way you nitpick, you can come up with reasons the every hero is OP. Nerf them all I guess right? Just stop.

    This isn't a,1v1 game now is it? Finn's is the second most powerful hero in the game thanks to big deal. Least played because he doesn't have a lightsaber doesnt mean he's not powerful. I'll take Finn over every lightsaber hero in the besides anakin.

    Nice... You spout out all these comparisons regarding 1v1’s when it suits you. You do it often to make points regarding HvV.

    Now? You literally flip the script.

    Transparent man. Really.

    Look. I know what Finn can do in GA. I know you know what you’re talking about. Well, for the most part at least. But nerfing Finn is just silly. It’s not about the numbers, the percentages and all that. His presence in this game is scarce at best and aside from a few key choke point phases in GA, he’s not really impacting matches that much. Yes, theoretically he can... I’ve done it, you’ve done it, others have too, but honestly when I see another player playing Finn to his team’s success, be it mine or my opponents, I’m happy about it. It’s cool just to see it because it’s that rare.

    He’s a very good support hero. He’s maybe the best support hero. But in no way shape or form is he OP.

    I'm talking GA & have been this whole entire thread & his impact on it. 😞 Finn is lame & or weak to some so you won't see him over other heroes. Like I said I'll take him over anyone besides anakin. No other hero besides anakin can cheese your side to a win

    So what you’re saying is, that you are actively looking to play Finn in all GA LS matches, just because of his in-game buff numbers.

    You go for Anakin, but take Finn next if Anakin is unavailable? Every time? Is that your game? Pure number crunching every match?

    If anakin isn't available & I'm trying to win heck yeah. I will cheese my team to a victory & have.

    Well that’s a big if and I ain’t buying it. You’re too good of a player for crutches.

    Depends how bad my team is 😞 I got so mad at being steam rolled I chose Finn last phase just to get a win. I never knew how good Finn was still I started playing with @KresusFIN he told me about the big deal setup & ever since then any choke point area where I can maximize big deal & anakin isn't available I chose Finn. Kamino is a good example. The barracks is impossible to get if a Finn is in there with the right setup.
  • Lagodaki
    912 posts Member
    Bandicoot wrote: »
    Bandicoot wrote: »
    I will say if they were to ever nerf his stats (or not) they need to actually start giving him assists/BP for both his buffs.

    I think a lot of the reason you don't see him despite his undeniable effectiveness; it's hard to top score with him.

    Like why do Rey and Officers get assist points but not Finn? What is the logic? Is it because he's black?

    Yoda doesn't either. And Rey should never get them.

    Green tumor shouldn't get assists until it actually becomes killable by literally anything else in the game again.

    Finn is squishy and has poor damage output. Rey is the weakest saber in the game. They should get assists.

    Haha, it's true he's become a bit of a mini hulk, soon to be op. It's even more of a problem since saber hero's like to override iden's stun regularly. Imo no hero should get assist points for non damage dealing abilities, it would promote more corner camping Rey play styles.

    Every Rey I see in GA is just hiding behind a wall using Insight over and over
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