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And now we wait for passive HoK. Can literally run all 3 Big Deal cards and the buff will stay up as long as there is something I get to shoot.
I find he's a perfect fit for me. FPS isn't a genre I'm particularly good at, but if I pick Finn, I can contribute far more than I ever could hope to do with say, Lando, or a saber hero. (Except Rey. Wallhacks OP)
Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
Agree, but "good luck turret" would cry.
Exactly, skillfull well earned 1st place
Hey now.. That's how I leveled Rey to 40.
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2 days after the progression system went live.
Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
I stumbled onto what Finn could do last summer. It was right after I’d leveled him up to 40 in HvV. I wanted to play him in GA since I was very practiced with him. Gave a hard look at his cards and then realized what I was looking at.
Not impossible, but it would likely take the coordinates effort of a quality premade who understood what was happening. It’s ok for heroes to really shine in some circumstances. Finn doesn’t always shine, but it’s great when he does.
Cheese the team to victory & get cheap assist points
It gets particularly funny when you DO have the whole premade there. Mvp's Anakin practically becomes an unkillable god, Lando's stuns fly out every 5 secs, or so it seems, and the last saber (Usually Luke) has ragdolls for days.
And all I literally need to do is sit back, and occasionally hit someone in the face for 15% extra duration.
The downside is, smart players know to go for the Finn first, and his regen is kinda trashy, so he ain't soaking much damage before permahealth goes bye bye.
Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
I'm the arbiter of consumer satisfaction
That scenario is frightening. The opposition would have to be exceptional with rare coordination to even begin to try and compete. Too bad MM doesn’t let you find some high quality players to compete against and remain in the same lobby.
We need private servers.
maps/phases Finn is good on in my experience:
Kashyyyk P3: I normally go on the right side its closer to spawn and safer to camp at with deadeye ready to go
Naboo P3: this is Finns heaven if you know what your doing the enemy team should never get in
Hoth P3: if your team is competent you can go to the middle objective and keep the enemy at bay really well with deadeye especially the middle path towards the enemys spawn.
Endor P3: if your team is competent enough to clear out the top area the enemy team simply isn't getting out of spawn once your up top
there is some other maps I need to try him on but those are the best in my experience.
At least until Kylo pulls and freezes your Finn.
In team support Yoda and Rey are still better because they can block everything, and Finn is vurnerable to almost everything the dark side has. He can be frozen, choked, pulled, stunned, you pick.
Right. Finn can be very effective, but he is not OP.
Hard counter??? Finn himself still gets wrecked by rocket barrage & you don't play GA much huh? Finns big deal is extremely overpowered in that game mode & I said reduce the damage reduction for troopers 😞
A wookie with 50% damage reduction is op.
Bingo!!!!!
Maybe, but it’s a temporary buff. Look, you make some good points but there’s no real solution. When you carry your logic further you find the same thing every time. The game design itself is fundamentally flawed with the way they implemented tiered units.
If one of your suggested tweaks are made, guess what happens next. That one unit may get a little balance, but that balance then exposes another one’s imbalance. So it continues on and on. Of all the things that need addressing, I just don’t see Finn as a priority. His OP status really only exists in GA, and that’s because he’s almost always defending objectives. It doesn’t manifest in CS nor on several GA maps. Endor, Geonosis, and SKB come to mind right off.
I just can’t agree that he needs a focus. More people need to play Finn, not less. He’s grossly underrepresented on the Battlefront and so there’s no issue. Besides, the DS has several characters who can dispatch him in short order regardless of his buff numbers.
If Kylo even gets close the team ain't doing it's job, but even then, it's pretty easy to roll pull.
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
https://xboxclips.com/XJO461/2c459301-1867-439e-b451-4f7100b70df9
We got to Third Phase in about two minutes, with Kylo and their team steamrolling us. This was not optimal play in any way, but this was gonna be a steamroll till I picked Finn at least.
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
I use all his deadeye cards and he is still a game changer if you setup in the right spot the enemy team simply isn't going to push onto the objective deadeye simply doesnt seem to get the recognition it deserves anymore witch is disappointing.
It's balanced unless teams are wildly imbalanced. The trade off is Finn's so garbage you run up and spam murder him.
Not a single Hero is in a position to receive a nerf atm. They all actually underperform in GA besides Palaptine, Bossk, and Anakin. How about we get some more Hero buffs going and actually improve this game, not tear it down and make it worse.
A wookie having more damage reduction than darth vader is op to me.
The under performing heroes are mostly LS, what happens to GA balance if they get buffed? The game needs a serious re-balance.
Yes make it better. Buff all the heroes to the same level and create a large scale infantry only mode so players that don't wish to be nuked over and over again can play competitively.
Here is a list with the Hero/es I use the most. NERF THE REST.
Srsly. SMH.
actually I cant think of anyone good enough or consistent enough to play on the dark side outside of Kylo and Palps there is a fairly decent chunk of heroes both dark and light that needs buffs so they dont insta die from making even the smallest mistake.
the dark side needs at least 2 team buffers to even things out and a number of heroes actually need buffs for GA while heroic might, retribution and ARCs trap need to be straight up deleted from the game and replaced with something else.
I actually use Finn a decent amount of times. I use all the heroes a decent amount of times & i have buffs & nerfs for almost all of them. Kylo is one of my mains & I think his frenzy needs a nerf for its cooldown. Should not come back in 10 seconds. His big deal is very game breaking in GA but, due to his low popularity & the fact that players would rather get big ol kill streaks & don't like nothing but sabers he's under the radar
Somewhat hard to do when the enemy troopers have essentially 405 health and continuous fire.
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.
I think this depends on the how good you are with certain characters, I'm better with maul, boba, iden and palps than kylo, but I've seen other players do very well with him. Anakin has rendered a lot of heroes pretty close to useless in a lot of situations. Power creep again.
Still need a large scale infantry only mode, leave the heroes to the officer scrubs.
But wait, there's more!
...Recharge command actually recharges Big Deal
Iron enigma treateth, Ultima
Shielding light retreateth, Ultima
Hydaelyn defeated. Ah, Ultima
"I have never died to a Finn"
True
Yeah I didn't bother to mention that because it doesn't happen too often. When it does though, and the Officer has resourceful, it's nearly permanent big deal, only about 3 seconds between each burst.
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
@F8RGE & @EA_Charlemagne
There are few real solutions to be found here.
Give the DS someone to debuff or something.
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That Specialist rework was disappointing.
This hero supposedly already exist, but he's so trash that you may as well act as he doesn't exist.
The time has come for Expose Weakness to become what it should have always been, an AOE ability. And even that i don't think the change would be noticeable.
That’d be fine. A debuffer. My issue is if you really want to compete on the highest level, you’re required to choose certain characters over others. That a miserable fail in design. One debuffer won’t change that. Only add to it.
Been saying this forever. Expose weakness is literally redundant in GA, and just exposes Dooku's own weakness. Any use is limited to almost entirely enemy blaster Heroes and even then your playing with fire immobilizing yourself for a full second to get the cast off. Saber Heroes just block, jump, or flat out run to completely negate the ability. Using this on a trooper is just a fools move, duelist does the same job and even better.
Scrap the concept all together. It's a failed design, seriously. Theres only one of two options to fix it. Make it an AoE debuff centered around Dooku with a range of about 5 or 10 meters. Targets rebuffed also should deal 25% less damage to Dooku.
If The ability cannot be remade in this way, Dooku needs to block incoming Fire From the Front while casting and affect a generous amount of targets in the vicinity. I'm Talking a 12+ meter range. Obviously the first option is the better of the two.
If Kylo had his freeze duration increase card(which is still less than his old default duration), that only works if freezing 3 or more targets, was remade into a + 100 regen threshold I'd dare say he'd finally be at 100%.
Yes, for reasons i don't think it is needed to expose as i get it and you get it the aura around him is by far the best option.
And no it's not game breaking at all. You literally have the opposite that grants more benefits.
Maybe just allow Finn to run with it to make it more fair.
Well yes, but asking DICE to balance the game is like asking a baby to tell the time and direction, it ain’t happening until three years afterward.
Xbox G-tag
That Specialist rework was disappointing.