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That wouldn't be an issue if enemies didn't know your exact location from across the entire map. They should've made it like hero showdowns where you can only see enemies on the radar if they're close to you. Now it's a toxic wasteland of tryhards looking at the radar for players that are alone away from their teammates
I stopped playing when I saw enemies can see your exact location from across the entire map. They just look at the radar and pick off players that are by themselves in a 4v1 for a cheesy kill. You shouldn't be able to see enemies on the radar unless they're close to you like in hero showdowns. That for me ruined it and quit playing battlefront 2
First time I have ever quit a game. I knew this crap would happen. I am super ticked off!
I used to scored 1st with Rey or top 5 all the time. Now she's trash. Landos smoke grenades are trash too. Can't throw smoke grenades to evade enemy radar anymore because they can always see my blip.
Her insight is nearly useless now. They put a permanent radar blip on everyone which makes the game trash. Tryhards just huddle up and run in a single file line looking at the radar for people that are alone. This made it more toxic
HvV attracted the very smart player and had a special HvV community around it..
Very disappointed.
They ruined it completely. This is way more toxic than the targeting system. Everyone knows your exact location from across the entire map that's trash
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super boring. you either demolish a team of [removed] players or get demolished by a squad in communication. neither feels good
Bruh. For real. Whoever thought that was a good idea should no longer work in the gaming industry. That is so unrealistic. Takes away skills and tactics.
Captain Phasma health boost not applying when activated. Robot not locking into targets until a few seconds later.
Anakin Retribution requires to be pressed numerous times to be activated when number showing people in range.
Damage for all characters seem increased and decreased with others.
Health increases for characters with low health like versio.
4th star card for every character.
Ability to choice parameters of HVV how many eliminations, can choose target system or not, how many characters on each side, lightsabers only, gunners only modes.
Balance to damage and health stats for each character.
Higher level of star cards from purple since we can go higher than level 40 now.
Be able to hold fire button down for characters with non automatic weapons.
Be able to roll infinitely.
Be able to roll whilst being mind tricked with obi wan as you cannot jump high enough if using a gunner to avoid attack.
Leia not affected by force throw if you been blinded even though you can see they right in front of you on the radar.
Leia if frozen should not be able to fire her gun.
Stamina bar should be balanced.
Not being able to move or block after force throw for 2+ seconds.
Leia should not be able to fire her rapid fire whilst frozen with kylo.
Scanners for boba fett and Finn are useless now.
If a player in your team leaves the match a notification should be on the screen beside the eliminations for the team that the player has left only to give them a chance to regroup and stick together. Also faster time for a new player to be searched and allocated to a team that is at a disadvantage. The opposite team should not be notified of the player leaving the opposition team.
Rey's insight and Landos smoke grenades are useless too now. You should only be able to see players on the radar that are really close to you. Idk why they did that. Makes it so toxic with tryhards looking for cheesy 4v1 kills
Needs better spawning
Lightsaber combat works for 1v1s but not 4v4; it's just a spam fest.
I'd rather play it in its previous state.
1. Shooters are focused even more heavily than before.
Why chase a force user when you can simply chop a shooter with no block or defense against abilities? Basically, this is the same mistake of the original Battlefront 2 from 2005: in the HvV mode on Mos Eisley the villains always win because they have less defenseless shooters and more lightsaber characters.
2. Spawning is messed up.
In the pre-update mode when you spawned solo (not as Solo, you stupid) somewhere behind the enemies and could not instantly regroup with your teammates, it wasn't a problem at all. You could wait and hide, and even if you were gangbanged 4vs1, it didn't give a point to the opposite team. Now it does. A totally legit move, DICE.
3. Always visible markers on the minimap.
See above. Plus, some abilities have become less useful.
4. No comebacks.
With the target system some epic comebacks were possible even when the counter was somewhere at 1-5. Now, when you see it's already 16-28, it all comes down to farming xp, or trying to finish the achievements, or just running in circles, whatever. Because when your team starts losing by more than 10 points, playing becomes irrelevant. And the increased match time makes this even worse.
5. Increased number of leavers.
This might be a subjective thing, but to me it seems like the number of leavers has increased drastically. Earlier, there could be one leaver per match, but now 3 new players dropping in and out are a common thing to see. Probably, people just connect to complete those dailies like "Kill an enemy as Lando" and be gone. And you know what? I don't blame them.
Great job shooting yourself in the leg, DICE. Again.
No, seriously, bravo.
That's not a bug. That's part of the game. I just start attacking when it happens to me. Rey's insight also goes through blocks
Because with the old system, when you spawned by yourself, enemies couldn't see you on the radar all the time like they do now. They want to change it to where you spawn near your team which I think wouldn't be such a great idea. You are in a 1v1 with someone, then all of a sudden the whole enemy team spawns there you're screwed
Please consider this.
Thanks.
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I'm not sure HvV (old or new version) can be improved to satisfy everyone.
I don't know if you're like me but, as a StarWars fan, I want 2 things:
1- feel like a god on the battlefield with a light saber
2- focus on an epic light saber duel without being stabbed in the back by a trooper or another jedi/sith.
Today, 1st wish can happen. I remember my first hero play with Yoda in GA ... I died after 10s. I told myself: "you need training". Because there is no arcade training, I tried Hero Showdown. I waited 5 min and finally played against 2 nice persons with characters at level 40. I tried again, same punition
So I tried HvV. I didn't like it at first but I kept on. It was the only way to figure out how a hero duel works ... and to win starcards relatively quickly. When my level became acceptable, I continued playing this mode to satisfy my 2nd wish: sometimes when planets were aligned, I had great duels with people far from the herd ... and I admit the two versions of HvV were/are a happy bloody mess that can be enjoyed sometimes.
My point is - maybe - Hero Showdown should be the mode to update. Nearly everytime, players use chat to ask "1v1?". So I should be fulfilled? but no: too much waiting time and matchmaking is absent or not possible.
Many people ask for "1v1". Hero Showdown is abandonned, and peole playing it turn it into a 1v1. What about giving a try on a weekend? and if it works, a championship would be nice. I'd like to know which alias is the best of the galaxy
Beside all the downsides that already was write here. HvV game is played only on a small part of a map. So maps like BESPIN, NABOO are played only on a safe place (like hangar for example). The game had lost the beauty and adrenaline and became like any other game on the market.
Now it doesn't matter what personage chose on specific map. It`s the same strategy : no strategy. run in battle and push attack button
The HvV mode is now like a HERO SHUTDOWN. Now to play a HERO SHUTDOWN you need to wait at least 5 minutes if you are lucky. So I dont`t understand way they update the HvV instead of HERO SHUTDOWN.
Regarding the targeting system on HvH was not perfect and at some point in time everyone was "this guy", but in my opinion is was better to play 1 VERY GOOD game in half an hour, instead to play the same boring game each time no matter the team, hero or map.
Though it does make the blaster heroes way more annoying now. As all they need to do is camp and have that be it. Especially camping around Phasma’s droid. And boba can now run away as much as he pleases.
This was a bad call. I’m glad you listen to the players, but at some point you have to realize...
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Well, I quit playing for over 2 months and that is on top of the 4 - 5(?) months I took off, and in my opinion the game is so much worse. All the changes have made HvV uninteresting and I did not enjoy it at all. It was my favorite mode. Now I have no intention of playing it. Not much left in the game to enjoy. Capital Supremacy, wow, 45+ minutes of boring. It was fun the first couple of times, but AI problems, and other than Geonosis map the other maps are old and tired. There is nothing that "changes" in the game play except the status of the objective. There should be explosions, damage done to scenery, the ships, dangerous flora and fauna, sink holes etc. make it interesting. Liven the game play. It's almost as if EA just doesn't care about it's customers. As if they made a VERY POOR choice early on in sacrificing the game and now, are just having DICE throw as much useless quickly built stuff at the game to show how "rich and full" of features it is, when it really isn't and everything we had now, should have been introduced over the last year instead of the absolutely horrible lack of support and miserable content we got. Sorry DICE\EA you still do not know what you are doing and the player base is really tired of this. I know I am.
I loved that game mode for over 2 years now.
this is trash that everyone can see your exact location at all times. They still haven't fixed it, and it's only 35 kills now. They completely ruined the game. I doubt they care as long as they please these little tryhards. At this point I'd also rather have the old targeting system back. HvV was the only reason I got battlefront 2. I don't even play the game anymore. This update is garbage
x50xCaliberx is so right. I agree with every sentence. Please give us back the target system. And rename the new mode like HvV TeamDeathMatch or something like that. With this change there is no mode that needs good team tactics.
I really liked the target system it was like capture the flag mode in old FPS games. With this change all the mode is for hunting each other down. No team spirit at all.
There is no more observation, every player know exactly where are the foes.
Please bring back the targets again.
A loyal fan.