Obi-Wan is a poorly designed hero & here are quality suggestions that'll make him viable in HvV & GA
Of all the heroes in the game he is the hero I hate to play as the most. Everything about him is incredibly clumsy & slow. Down below I provide sure fire ways that'll make him worth picking.
Obi-Wans Dodge
Out of all the dodges in the game he's the only one who has a weird pause at the end of his dodge that doesn't flow into his regular animation. Below is a comparison of his dodge with all the other force heroes
His dodge as you can see isn't as smooth as the other force users at all & the move that is suppose to help him avoid damage more often than not will just get him hurt.
Defensive Rush
This move lol this move is as clumsy as it is stupid. A defensive move yet he isn't offered any damage reduction. Kylo who has a offensive move is granted 40% damage reduction for a 300 & with cards 400 plus damaging move. Rey another character with a offensive minded move is able to absorb 40% less damage with this card.
Here's two videos down below comparing them
Rey's dash strike with above card
Notice how rey with her offensive minded move only took 90 damage.
Obi-Wan's DEFENSIVE rush
So why do characters who have offensive minded moves rewarded damage reduction yet the master of defense can't get anything? His DEFENSIVE rush doesn't offer much protection when he can just be CC'd or take full damage from explosive. Obi-Wan should be granted 40% damage reduction.
Lastly, defensive rush needs a speed boost comparable to rey's. This move needs a burst of speed down below I compared rey's & Obi-Wan's.
Obi-Wan's
& here's Rey's
Obi-Wan's needs to be more in line & be threatening. Currently it's a ability that gets laughed at.
All out push
Abilities with longer casting where granted immunity yet obiwan received nothing. Yet Maul was granted cc immunity(should've been granted damage reduction) for his quick force choke & Obi-Wan who can charge his push did not, why? Here's a comparison of heroic might & all out push
As you can see both have a similar charge time yet only 1 move has cc immunity.
The master of defense
How is Obi-Wan Kenobi the master of defense when vader, luke, yoda & rey are just as good as him on the defensive side of things. Heck maul can be a turtle better than him. In order to show that Obi-Wan mastered the art of defense allow him to block supercharged & explosive sentry. As of right now there are several characters who fill his role quite nicely.
NERF MIND TRICK!
You guys damn sure overbuffed this ability like holy crap. It's a death sentence against blaster heroes & needs a hard nerf against heroes & heroes only. The ability should last 3.5 seconds at base & 5 seconds with the card & I say again against heroes only. Move is to overpowered & didn't solve the problem with this hero. Anyways that's it tell me what you think down below
Obi-Wans Dodge
Out of all the dodges in the game he's the only one who has a weird pause at the end of his dodge that doesn't flow into his regular animation. Below is a comparison of his dodge with all the other force heroes
His dodge as you can see isn't as smooth as the other force users at all & the move that is suppose to help him avoid damage more often than not will just get him hurt.
Defensive Rush
This move lol this move is as clumsy as it is stupid. A defensive move yet he isn't offered any damage reduction. Kylo who has a offensive move is granted 40% damage reduction for a 300 & with cards 400 plus damaging move. Rey another character with a offensive minded move is able to absorb 40% less damage with this card.
Here's two videos down below comparing them
Rey's dash strike with above card
Notice how rey with her offensive minded move only took 90 damage.
Obi-Wan's DEFENSIVE rush
So why do characters who have offensive minded moves rewarded damage reduction yet the master of defense can't get anything? His DEFENSIVE rush doesn't offer much protection when he can just be CC'd or take full damage from explosive. Obi-Wan should be granted 40% damage reduction.
Lastly, defensive rush needs a speed boost comparable to rey's. This move needs a burst of speed down below I compared rey's & Obi-Wan's.
Obi-Wan's
& here's Rey's
Obi-Wan's needs to be more in line & be threatening. Currently it's a ability that gets laughed at.
All out push
Abilities with longer casting where granted immunity yet obiwan received nothing. Yet Maul was granted cc immunity(should've been granted damage reduction) for his quick force choke & Obi-Wan who can charge his push did not, why? Here's a comparison of heroic might & all out push
As you can see both have a similar charge time yet only 1 move has cc immunity.
The master of defense
How is Obi-Wan Kenobi the master of defense when vader, luke, yoda & rey are just as good as him on the defensive side of things. Heck maul can be a turtle better than him. In order to show that Obi-Wan mastered the art of defense allow him to block supercharged & explosive sentry. As of right now there are several characters who fill his role quite nicely.
NERF MIND TRICK!
You guys damn sure overbuffed this ability like holy crap. It's a death sentence against blaster heroes & needs a hard nerf against heroes & heroes only. The ability should last 3.5 seconds at base & 5 seconds with the card & I say again against heroes only. Move is to overpowered & didn't solve the problem with this hero. Anyways that's it tell me what you think down below
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It still ignores saber strikes. I'm all for removing it for vader & maul but grevious obi-wan & anakin should keep there's
This is one of the biggest issues with him. I can pretty much always top score when my team plays defensively or when I lead our team(meaning they have to acknowledge my capability and stay with me). When Han and Lando can shot everyone up and I finish them off, if they try to get to them.
Another instance where I can top with him is when I play with my mates.(Those three players are ok-pretty good). Because, again, when I talk to them and they support my playstyle we can defeat even superior (clan)teams.
I like Obi atm. But he needs some fixes and buffs.
Mainly because:
Defensive rush needs a speed boost
25-30% damage reduction during it
CC Immunity
All out push needs to have a shorter charge time(1-1,5 sec shorter)
Nerf the mindtrick to 4 seconds without card.
obi wan is one of the characters I hate to play, he is too weak, his power is really too weak, which is a strong handicap in combat
for me his pushing force should be 0.5 seconds shorter to not be dependent on his star card reducing activation time
mind trick is good, I'd like a range buff, obi wan is a hero blaster killer just like palpatine is a jedi killer
saber rush deserves a big buff,
speed buff and immunity to power hang rush
Yeah out of all the heroes I hate playing as him & I hate seeing him. He's not worth 4000 bp & now that chewie got a health care I don't even see the point in being him in ga & HvV you have to put in so much effort to do anything with him
Here are the buffs and nerfs that Obi-Wan needs imo:
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As a lvl. 101 Obi player I can confidently say that you are right.
Yes obi wan is pretty good against potatoes
If your team adapts a certain playstyle(as I said earlier) he can be effective. But otherwise I need to put some huge effort in if I want to top in random lobbys(If the opposing aren’t potatoes and actually know how to play the game)
He's known in canon as defensive and his in-game presence reflects that too. I like it. Allows me to play the game differently each time. Not perfect, but I'm honestly okay with him as is. Tried him in HvV yesterday and didn't do so well. Going to be a while before I get my bearings with him in that mode.
But yeah alone he's not that good alone but he's not that bad either IMHO....like the OG Luke he needs to be played 1/2 hit and dodge move for HvV/HS. If I wanted a slight buff...then for GA/CS I would like his defensive rush doing more damage and his base force push having even a lower charge up time.
Vader, Rey, Luke, & Yoda are better defensive characters than him.
Not sure how you figure this.
Vader & Rey have 50% reduced stamina allowing them to block just as long & Rey has 1 second regen she can just dodge backwards & has a full bar. Luke can be a turtle better than him using a mix of his dash & His 1 second regen he can block forever same with yoda. I can hold block all day with these characters
Perhaps in your experience. Not so much mine. My time with Luke isn't as great as it is with Obi-Wan. I don't play Yoda. Maybe once they change his health card I'll give him a chance. Now Rey and Vader... Sure they have that ability to give them lower stamina drain, but Obi-Wan still has the highest stamina pool of all the heroes for blocking. Mind you I haven't played Vader or Rey that much since they saber changes a few months ago. I'll give it another look at as I don't mind going back to play those heroes. Maxed them out before the stamina changes and hadn't touched them since so I'm game to play them again. Been mostly maining Han and Dooku in HvV so I haven't particularly played other heroes that much.
This right here.
Any thoughts
I put in the vote earlier, that Obi-Wan was the least interesting to play for me. His defensive Rush ability, i dont bother using anymore, it often got me killed lol.
So yes i agree, but im just your bog average saber player.
Thanks for vids too
I feel the same problems when playing with Obi-Wan, especially his extreme weakness in power. I think the reason for that could be his Mind Trick. It just doesn't fit into the battlefield, since Obi-Wan never ever used it in the middle of a battle, or against someone he was dueling with. I know it's kind of a signature ability for him, but c'mon, we don't need to fall into exaggeration. Oh, and in my opinion this ability will always be OP from a certain point of view, because you need to do no efforts to make it effective.
I would honestly change this ability to something more useful and less OP.
I don't know what do you think about it, but I'm so curious
The mind trick is a great ability i just think the duration is to long. It is needed currently as his other abilities are weak but if they were to be buffed then they can tone down on the duration from what i see.
I love Obi Wan as a character and i like the challenge but he seriously needs a boost, even if its just making the base range of his force push equal to Lukes.
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