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Herofront ll is boring and there's barely any motivation to keep playing It.

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  • Defbored wrote: »
    ID_8615 wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    David1543 wrote: »

    As you can see devs noone is happy with your game except a few loud minority, .

    i really don't like when people say this. the community was polled after HU and the poll showed a large majority in favor of heroes in GA. the fact that numerically more people have been shown to enjoy heroes shows that they are not the minority but the majority.

    you are the loud minority. get over it.

    So - you believe the polling to be an accurate reflection of how the player base really feels?
    On XBox, less than 1.5% of players ever reach Player Rank 50. The game has been out for nearly 2 years now. Player Rank 50 is a generic rank, mind you. Nothing specific to one class or another.. just over all rank. On PS4, its about the same.

    What does that tell you? It should tell you that most players in the BF2 universe do not stick around long enough to ever reach Player Rank 50. Even a casual player, playing 3-4 hours on weekends for ~18 months would easily reach Player Rank 50. What this tells you is that @David1543 is spot on in his assessment that Battlefront II is a boring game. Players have left en masse since its inception in 2017. F8RGE loves to expound on how healthy his player base is, that it continues to grow. But like a blind monkey playing the stock market in a bull year, DICE Sweden are working with one of the world's premiere IP franchises: Star Wars. It's darn near impossible to muck it up... but its not for a lack of trying in this case.

    Why do you think the only players left in these forums are primarily the ones who enjoy playing the Heroes in GA & CS? Do I need to lay it out in small terms, or, can you connect those dots on your own?

    Yes. I feel that a poll released by the devs across a couple of communication platforms represents how the players feel. That what polls are intended to do. Was that a real question?

    Definitely more representative than a few people here (the same people) always complaining about heroes in ga.

    Where's my meme of Obiwan telling Darth Vader -- " well then you are lost!!"
  • ID_8615 wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    ID_8615 wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    David1543 wrote: »

    As you can see devs noone is happy with your game except a few loud minority, .

    i really don't like when people say this. the community was polled after HU and the poll showed a large majority in favor of heroes in GA. the fact that numerically more people have been shown to enjoy heroes shows that they are not the minority but the majority.

    you are the loud minority. get over it.

    So - you believe the polling to be an accurate reflection of how the player base really feels?
    On XBox, less than 1.5% of players ever reach Player Rank 50. The game has been out for nearly 2 years now. Player Rank 50 is a generic rank, mind you. Nothing specific to one class or another.. just over all rank. On PS4, its about the same.

    What does that tell you? It should tell you that most players in the BF2 universe do not stick around long enough to ever reach Player Rank 50. Even a casual player, playing 3-4 hours on weekends for ~18 months would easily reach Player Rank 50. What this tells you is that @David1543 is spot on in his assessment that Battlefront II is a boring game. Players have left en masse since its inception in 2017. F8RGE loves to expound on how healthy his player base is, that it continues to grow. But like a blind monkey playing the stock market in a bull year, DICE Sweden are working with one of the world's premiere IP franchises: Star Wars. It's darn near impossible to muck it up... but its not for a lack of trying in this case.

    Why do you think the only players left in these forums are primarily the ones who enjoy playing the Heroes in GA & CS? Do I need to lay it out in small terms, or, can you connect those dots on your own?

    Yes. I feel that a poll released by the devs across a couple of communication platforms represents how the players feel. That what polls are intended to do. Was that a real question?

    Definitely more representative than a few people here (the same people) always complaining about heroes in ga.

    Where's my meme of Obiwan telling Darth Vader -- " well then you are lost!!"

    You lost it
  • ID_8615 wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    ID_8615 wrote: »
    Defbored wrote: »
    David1543 wrote: »

    As you can see devs noone is happy with your game except a few loud minority, .

    i really don't like when people say this. the community was polled after HU and the poll showed a large majority in favor of heroes in GA. the fact that numerically more people have been shown to enjoy heroes shows that they are not the minority but the majority.

    you are the loud minority. get over it.

    So - you believe the polling to be an accurate reflection of how the player base really feels?
    On XBox, less than 1.5% of players ever reach Player Rank 50. The game has been out for nearly 2 years now. Player Rank 50 is a generic rank, mind you. Nothing specific to one class or another.. just over all rank. On PS4, its about the same.

    What does that tell you? It should tell you that most players in the BF2 universe do not stick around long enough to ever reach Player Rank 50. Even a casual player, playing 3-4 hours on weekends for ~18 months would easily reach Player Rank 50. What this tells you is that @David1543 is spot on in his assessment that Battlefront II is a boring game. Players have left en masse since its inception in 2017. F8RGE loves to expound on how healthy his player base is, that it continues to grow. But like a blind monkey playing the stock market in a bull year, DICE Sweden are working with one of the world's premiere IP franchises: Star Wars. It's darn near impossible to muck it up... but its not for a lack of trying in this case.

    Why do you think the only players left in these forums are primarily the ones who enjoy playing the Heroes in GA & CS? Do I need to lay it out in small terms, or, can you connect those dots on your own?

    Yes. I feel that a poll released by the devs across a couple of communication platforms represents how the players feel. That what polls are intended to do. Was that a real question?

    Definitely more representative than a few people here (the same people) always complaining about heroes in ga.

    Where's my meme of Obiwan telling Darth Vader -- " well then you are lost!!"

    It's ironic. The very meme you wish to find, is that which would perfectly suit your current situation about you reacting directly to your lost meme.
  • ROMG4 wrote: »
    Wahhh a hero keeps killing me😭😭😭 Unfair! Unfair! Rather than adapting and learning how to deal with heroes Im gonna go write a 200 word essay crying about it! Dude if Battlefield is that much better and makes you that much more skilled go play that. Or do they not have forums for you spam with your garbage?

    Someone got provoked. Perhaps his post struck a chord with you and your trying to hide it by getting angrier

    No not angry lol. I can think of much better things to get angry about I have 2 teenagers. I just thought his post sounded super whiny. In retrospect I guess it did provoke me I'm not sure why. My apologies I'll leave it alone now😘
  • Defbored wrote: »
    David1543 wrote: »

    As you can see devs noone is happy with your game except a few loud minority, .

    i really don't like when people say this. the community was polled after HU and the poll showed a large majority in favor of heroes in GA. the fact that numerically more people have been shown to enjoy heroes shows that they are not the minority but the majority.

    you are the loud minority. get over it.

    This. 1000%. Im happy with the game. I like heroes in GA. This game sucks so bad you felt the need to visit its forums and post about it huh? Sounds like a classic case of Git Gud🤷‍♂️

    Sounds like you need to go and look after your children.

    Will do. Thanks for the advice.
  • UhOhItsJus wrote: »
    There are 2 or 3, maybe even 4 modes without high-tiered units called heroes. You are welcome to play that. I don’t have an issue facing heroes as other heroes or even regular troopers. Every trooper is able to inflict significant harm/disruption to a heroes gameplan. Just gotta be good enough to do that. Assault has many grenades, a 300 damage shotgun, and gas to cause damage/disrupt. Officer has double flash grenades plus an auto aim turret plus the arc that can do insane DPS after one or two rolls. Heavy has explosive shot plus instant impact made plus the explosive sentrys plus detonate charge. Specialist has stinger pistol and nt242 ion shot that does damage thru a block EVEN IF YOU MISS YOUR SHOT. Just shoot close and it will do vicinity damage.

    You alone have an infinite amount of chances using free-to-play base 4 troopers in order to do any of the above, it’s apparent you’re just not skilled enough to do it.

    lol
    You can play your beloved heroes too in their respected gamemode... you see? I can say the same nonsense...

    The game lacks a non linear bigscale gamemode without heroes, period.

    Sucks that Battlefront under DICE isnt Battlefront

    Yes you can say that...but to what avail? I’m not the one complaining about This. If I got tired of the base 4 troops and everything I mentioned about troopers above, I would quietly go play those hero only game modes that avoided what was frustrating me
  • UhOhItsJus wrote: »
    People really are mad that a STAR WARS game has a lot of emphasis on hero’s and expect to take out all hero’s 1v1 with a trooper. This forum never disappoints with opinions. Play with friends, it’s quite easy to take down hero’s in a herd of wild mad lads


    @OoiiHooked_22 as unintelligent I think you are, I couldn’t have said this better myself

    Cool
  • UhOhItsJus wrote: »
    People really are mad that a STAR WARS game has a lot of emphasis on hero’s and expect to take out all hero’s 1v1 with a trooper. This forum never disappoints with opinions. Play with friends, it’s quite easy to take down hero’s in a herd of wild mad lads


    @OoiiHooked_22 as unintelligent I think you are, I couldn’t have said this better myself

    It’s as unintelligent AS... but what do I know bud
  • Maybe its cause played the game so much. But honestly having 4 hereos on both sides lead to some of the mist insane fights abd shootouts I've ever heard witnessed. I dont think its "hero front" as people call it, there are a wide amount of things to be played


    Enforcers: My favorite class honestly as I have mastered every strength and weakness they have and absolutely to the point where I counter hereos

    Aerials: Have great espace and once you master rocket jumping they become the most traversial class

    Vehicles: Tricky one here, but I've tried out some vehicle and its honestly pretty to fun going on massive killstreaks

    People camping the loadout screen : (I guess you put a timer? But that would cause some controversy for people who like to change their weapons and star cards between matches)

    At the end of day I get this is a discussion but chill bro/girl. The game is fun when you try playimg something new. Playing different classes, different vehicles, different reinforcements, different hereos with different card set ups is fun.

  • David1543 wrote: »
    People really are mad that a STAR WARS game has a lot of emphasis on hero’s and expect to take out all hero’s 1v1 with a trooper. This forum never disappoints with opinions. Play with friends, it’s quite easy to take down hero’s in a herd of wild mad lads

    What happened to you? You used to be against hero spam and even supported my thread. Now you sided with the enemy and allowed them to brainwash you with their herolord sorcery.

    I’m forsure against having more than 2 hero’s. I’m also against people using multiple hero’s in a game. I just don’t like the “battlefront shouldn’t focus on hero’s” and “hero’s are gods” arguments. I’m half and half. That was a post to multiple other post I’ve seen in here, not necessarily directed towards you only
  • I also find the hero system flawed, although I think my opinion is in the minority.

    For me, I much prefer Battlefield 1 (don’t have BFV) over Battlefront 2. I prefer it for several reasons -

    1. A larger scale (no chokepoints) that makes every game feel awesome to watch even when you keep on dying.
    2. A greater emphasis on strategy.
    3. Heroes

    I think my real issue with heroes is how encountering one as a trooper is a death sentence, unless in numbers. It’s fun for the hero, but annoying for the trooper. When I played battlefield, when I die I’m annoyed at myself for failing. But in Battlefront I rarely find death a failure, because I often died at the hands of a hero.

    I think had the maps had a larger scale and the heroes limited to just one per side, we’d be fine, because then encountering the hero is a chance occasion that can always be avoided.

    Now maybe this is just a case of them being different games. I’ve always been a Star Wars fan so I will keep playing this game, but I think it would be so much better had it taken those three pointers from Dice’s other franchise. Heroes included.
  • killerzf7 wrote: »
    Honest/Controversial Opinion:

    While you don’t like the heroes on the battlefront in this game, I don’t like the neglect that the OT and ST have been receiving.

    This game is supposed to be across ALL eras, but the Clone Wars is the only era getting major content, even if it’s being drip-fed.

    Seriously, after one whole year of Clone Wars content (and more possibly still coming) this is what I feel this game is becoming.



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    This game's post-launch support being too CW centric and too Hero centric go hand in hand.
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  • I find myself playing CS more. In GA I usually resort to the stinger pistol to combat the hero spam. It's not so bad in CS although the games are too long.

    More extraction maps please.
  • David1543 wrote: »
    To be honest, the tanks TX-130, AT-ST, whatever the droid one is are stronger than hero's. They have more health and full regen even from near enough zero

    I've been mainly playing infantry and reinforcements recently and there are counters to hero's: stinger pistols, vehicles including speeders, jet troopers rocket, a good infiltrator can beat a hero, wookie overload etc

    Stop blaming the game when you lose.

    Lol stinger pistol? Speeders? Never killed or got killed by one. I beat heroes all the time, also destroyed vehicles and groups of arrogant reinforcements multiple times as one. Wether they are too strong or weak is judged by whoever is using one, when in the right hands they are by far the most OP unit of the game. The success of your team in attacking or defeneding objectives Its ALWAYS dictated by a hero, and they are so easy to access that killing one is pointless, specialy if that same good players gets to respawn immediately after death. Vehicles might have higher health but they are not easier to kill than heroes in good hands. I dont ever got killed by a vehicle as a hero, in fact Its more often the other way around, maybe because I play intelligently and dont directly run towards It, well to be honest I really dont know what It takes for a hero player, who has all the mobility in the world to be killed by a vehicle, or even speeders. Maybe you herolords should stop crying everyime you die, because the forums is literally consisted of your whinny posts and cant afford to make this game actually be any good because you just nee your exploits.

    I am not a "hero-lord" I literally said I was mainly playing as infantry and reinforcements.

    It was just a suggestion of how to beat hero's that works for me. If you try it you may find them less annoying

    It is a Star Wars game so hero's are going to feature and it is going to mainly be a casual game. Fair enough if that's not for you.

    I could see an argument for raising the BP cost a bit, but otherwise I say the game is not boring in my opinion
  • Starwarsor66
    1998 posts Member
    edited August 15
    David1543 wrote: »
    Battlefront is not only about troopers, but mainly.

    Really? Then why is this battlefront mainly about heroes?
    Post edited by Starwarsor66 on
  • Alwe15
    1471 posts Member
    David1543 wrote: »
    Battlefront is not only about troopers, but mainly.

    Really? Then why is this battlefront mainly about troopers?

    "because the originals were"

    Bet you.
  • Alwe15 wrote: »
    David1543 wrote: »
    Battlefront is not only about troopers, but mainly.

    Really? Then why is this battlefront mainly about troopers?

    "because the originals were"

    Bet you.

    Dammit, I meant heroes haha edited*
  • Alwe15
    1471 posts Member
    Alwe15 wrote: »
    David1543 wrote: »
    Battlefront is not only about troopers, but mainly.

    Really? Then why is this battlefront mainly about troopers?

    "because the originals were"

    Bet you.

    Dammit, I meant heroes haha edited*

    Well, that just means my reply makes no sense. 🤷🏼‍♂️
  • Alwe15 wrote: »
    Alwe15 wrote: »
    David1543 wrote: »
    Battlefront is not only about troopers, but mainly.

    Really? Then why is this battlefront mainly about troopers?

    "because the originals were"

    Bet you.

    Dammit, I meant heroes haha edited*

    Well, that just means my reply makes no sense. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    Just edit it so you don't look like a freak haha
  • Alwe15
    1471 posts Member
    ID_8615 wrote: »
    It is a Star Wars game so hero's are going to feature and it is going to mainly be a casual game.

    No. Wrong. Just because it is a Star Wars game does NOT necessitate the inclusion of Elites (Aerials, infiltrators, Heroes). In fact, until BF2, I never thought of Lando, Finn, Phasma, .. Iden, Han, Leia, or Chewie as "Heroes". They were just supporting characters in the movie series--some of them more main than others. Only DICE made them "Hero" class. Not sure why JarJar is not a hero here - he has the same qualifications.

    But I digress. The reason my kids and I continue to play BF2015 is precisely because we can play hero-free arcade games and nearly hero-free Walker Assaults online. BF2015, sad to say, is a better quality product in many ways than BF2017 will ever be.

    You didn't think of Finn, Han, Leia or Chewie as Heroes? Why not?
  • Alwe15
    1471 posts Member
    David1543 wrote: »
    Forgive me for my blasphemy but I find extraction boring. My thing is large scale type of modes and I like when all the resources of the game are present at the same time, troopers ,vehicles, starfighters, even heroes. I personally don't care if we get a trooper only mode or not, having heroes in the game is not my problem, but having 3 to 4 of them for only 4k is. If they were limited to 2 or preferably 1 for at least 8k this game would be more trooper oriented.

    Era locked GA event was the best thing to have ever happened to this game. Heroes were only 2 per side and the BP system was fair, the fact this is not permanent shows the devs have no clue of anything and have made their game progressively worse since then.

    Yup i could accept heroes if they were heavily limited but with the way how it currently is? no way im playing that game again...
    Last time i played it was when they added CS but after 1-2 rounds i deleted the game once and for all and never looked back...
    And after all this months the game hasnt changed into Battlefront yet.. nope its getting more and more Hero focused and basicly turns into SW Heroes Unleashed...

    Dont take someone elses Franchise Name next time when you dont have any intentions to reproduce it with your own new touch but still true to the original.

    All due respect, I don't understand why you would haunt the forums like some poltergeist given you haven't played for "months".
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