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Speeder bike vs lightsabers fix

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  • hatreds_wrath
    486 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    So many loaded baked potatoes in this thread that dont know how to avoid a speeder. 😂😂

    Now we won’t have to 😉

    Because your whining is just about as noticable as Reddits now. 😉
  • One time I pressed the laser barrage button and wiped the whole opposing team on the entire server.

    Whenever you seem to be getting hit by ghost shots, that is me firing from a speeder in a different match sometimes even a different server.

    When ever I pick a speeder I win the match instantly and the next two as well. That is why sometimes you will load into a match and it says it is already over.

    When seemingly available heroes or greyed out it is because I already killed them with my speeder, yesterday. That is why this weekend there are only blaster heroes available in HVV. I wiped out all the sabers earlier in the week.

    When your heroes in HVV seems to take mystery damage that was me I just fired while playing CS.

    This ain’t it chief

    Know what the funny thing is? I made the post as a spoof of those complaining speeders are overpowered.

    I am against nerfing them.
  • bf2pro wrote: »
    This is not about removing all hero counters. This is not about speeder bikes being "effective" against heroes. The stinger pistol, tanks, many reinforcements and most notably other heroes are effective against heroes. Speeder bikes are better hero killers than all of those, have no counters and cost less bp. A nerf is very reasonable.

    No? Seriously? It's a joke?

    Any normal trooper can kill now a speeder easly.

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  • So many loaded baked potatoes in this thread that dont know how to avoid a speeder. 😂😂

    So you do something other than run for your life at the first sight of a speeder?
  • bf2pro wrote: »
    This is not about removing all hero counters. This is not about speeder bikes being "effective" against heroes. The stinger pistol, tanks, many reinforcements and most notably other heroes are effective against heroes. Speeder bikes are better hero killers than all of those, have no counters and cost less bp. A nerf is very reasonable.

    No? Seriously? It's a joke?

    Any normal trooper can kill now a speeder easly.

    Well the game doesn’t revolve around heroes OR troopers only. Their middle ability is for vehicles not heroes. It’s time to fix them 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • One time I pressed the laser barrage button and wiped the whole opposing team on the entire server.

    Whenever you seem to be getting hit by ghost shots, that is me firing from a speeder in a different match sometimes even a different server.

    When ever I pick a speeder I win the match instantly and the next two as well. That is why sometimes you will load into a match and it says it is already over.

    When seemingly available heroes or greyed out it is because I already killed them with my speeder, yesterday. That is why this weekend there are only blaster heroes available in HVV. I wiped out all the sabers earlier in the week.

    When your heroes in HVV seems to take mystery damage that was me I just fired while playing CS.

    This ain’t it chief

    Know what the funny thing is? I made the post as a spoof of those complaining speeders are overpowered.

    I am against nerfing them.

    You are against justice itself then.
  • So many loaded baked potatoes in this thread that dont know how to avoid a speeder. 😂😂

    Now we won’t have to 😉

    Because your whining is just about as noticable as Reddits now. 😉

    Well now all y’all that hate heroes have more space and time to voice YOUR whining. Win win 😂😉
  • bf2pro wrote: »
    This is not about removing all hero counters. This is not about speeder bikes being "effective" against heroes. The stinger pistol, tanks, many reinforcements and most notably other heroes are effective against heroes. Speeder bikes are better hero killers than all of those, have no counters and cost less bp. A nerf is very reasonable.

    No? Seriously? It's a joke?

    Any normal trooper can kill now a speeder easly.

    As they should they cost 150. You act like they cost 4k
  • bf2pro
    232 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    bf2pro wrote: »
    This is not about removing all hero counters. This is not about speeder bikes being "effective" against heroes. The stinger pistol, tanks, many reinforcements and most notably other heroes are effective against heroes. Speeder bikes are better hero killers than all of those, have no counters and cost less bp. A nerf is very reasonable.

    No? Seriously? It's a joke?

    Any normal trooper can kill now a speeder easly.
    ... What is the title of this thread?
  • i honestly havent a clue what you guys are talking about ive been killed every time i try to use a stap against a hero plus the laser burst is extremely inaccurate. so in my honest opinion they dont need nerfs just better accuracy.
  • i honestly havent a clue what you guys are talking about ive been killed every time i try to use a stap against a hero plus the laser burst is extremely inaccurate. so in my honest opinion they dont need nerfs just better accuracy.

    Negative ghost rider
  • Speeders are the jankiest thing in the entire game, and that's saying something. I'd love for there to be something Heroes can do as a dedicated counter to them, since I almost always end up with more points than I spent with a speeder, and go about my business harassing an enemy command post. I'd love for speeders to be both more fun to use, AND have something that heroes can do to defend themselves. It's unfortunate that a hero can't play the objective and assist against a vehicle, they'll always get melted...

    Unless it's an AT-RT, those things are practically useless.
    "I felt there was a large amount of human chauvinism... also I felt very bad that at the end the Wookie didn't get a medal also... oh, all the people got medals but the Wookie who had been in there fighting all the time, didn't get any medal, and I thought that was an example of Anti-Wookie discrimination." - Carl Sagan on the subject of Star Wars
    He knew.
  • i honestly havent a clue what you guys are talking about ive been killed every time i try to use a stap against a hero plus the laser burst is extremely inaccurate. so in my honest opinion they dont need nerfs just better accuracy.

    Negative ghost rider

    The pattern is full.
  • The speeders are the units more easy yo kill. Their counters are all normal troopers.

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  • The speeders are the units more easy yo kill. Their counters are all normal troopers.

    Except lightsabers can't kill them which is the point of the thread.

  • JediPacoElFlaco
    1578 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    bf2pro wrote: »
    The speeders are the units more easy yo kill. Their counters are all normal troopers.

    Except lightsabers can't kill them which is the point of the thread.

    Then the solution musn't be nerf them. There are other solutions.

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  • Its funny how speeders have been used as hero counters, yet I die in 5 seconds with them by crashing into a tree :D
  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.
  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero
  • JediPacoElFlaco
    1578 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.
    That is the true problem.

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  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂
  • Don't run off by yourself, then be surprised and mad when you are taken out.
  • Don't run off by yourself, then be surprised and mad when you are taken out.

    You don’t understand using a hero then, I won’t bother 😂
    Thats what all the hero players say to troopers bros when they cry about heroes being OP, but it only seems to matter to speeders huh. 😂. Speeders were obviously not doing what they were intended so you’re wrong anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    LOL right. Played CS yesterday and melted a full health Anikan with super battle droid in the ship phase. Rocket then overload and he was toast
  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    LOL right. Played CS yesterday and melted a full health Anikan with super battle droid in the ship phase. Rocket then overload and he was toast

    Overload hero kills are a cake walk if you can aim 😂
  • People acting like they stop speeders with they bare hands to look like pros. This os right it makes no sense that speeders are untouchable
  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    Yes i played as a reinforcement and any hero with lightsaber kill any reinforcement with only 2 sword thrust.

    Yes i played as a tank and normal troopers kill me easly. Heroes too. And in the closed maps or closed phases, there aren't vehicles.

    No, in this game hasn't teamwork but Anakin can kill all enemies in a room only push a button. In this case the teamwork is a joke.

    Yes i have used the stinger pistol in the fews times i have used a specialist. And the hero get close to me and kill me easly.

    Yes i have used a sentry and hero get close to me and kill me easly. Some times i get kill him.

    No, I don't think heroes are as inmortal gods.
    Hero fanatics as you want the heroes be inmortals and all powerful. This is the motive to nerf the speeders.

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  • OoiiHooked_22
    4465 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    Yes i played as a reinforcement and any hero with lightsaber kill any reinforcement with only 2 sword thrust.

    Yes i played as a tank and normal troopers kill me easly. Heroes too. And in the closed maps or closed phases, there aren't vehicles.

    No, in this game hasn't teamwork but Anakin can kill all enemies in a room only push a button. In this case the teamwork is a joke.

    Yes i have used the stinger pistol in the fews times i have used a specialist. And the hero get close to me and kill me easly.

    Yes i have used a sentry and hero get close to me and kill me easly. Some times i get kill him.

    No, I don't think heroes are as inmortal gods.
    Hero fanatics as you want the heroes be inmortals and all powerful. This is the motive to nerf the speeders.

    You just don’t get it 😂😂. There are far more tools that can be used to kill heroes. And I don’t think even greivous can 2 swing reinforcements, who else two swings them? EVERYTHING we’ve mentioned can KILL A HERO REASONABLY, myself and others do it all the time. It isn’t about heroes killing you, it’s if you can kill heroes. You can still follow a hero around all game and shoot him with the regular blaster. What we want is the middle ability tweaked against heroes, you know, the ability that kills sabers in 5 seconds that’s MEANT for vehicles. If speeders are your only option to kill heroes I’m truly sorry. Everyone will still manage to kill heroes except for you I guess. I’m sorry I NEVER use speeders or stingers and have my fair share of jedi and Sith trophies added to my collection

    If you’re letting heroes kill you in 2 swings it sounds like a user error. If you’re dying to sabers in a tank im SURE it’s a user error. I’m not sure if you’ve used Anakin since launch but im not sure he does that anymore lol.
  • Don't run off by yourself, then be surprised and mad when you are taken out.

    You don’t understand using a hero then, I won’t bother 😂
    Thats what all the hero players say to troopers bros when they cry about heroes being OP, but it only seems to matter to speeders huh. 😂. Speeders were obviously not doing what they were intended so you’re wrong anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

    See this guy gets it. He is not asking for something unreasonable people. How does asking for a speeder nerf to lightsaber attacks mean that we want "OP god-like" heroes...? Luke was able to take these things out by himself, remember in Return of the Jedi? Luke went head to head "all alone by himself" against a speeder blocked all its blaster bolts and chopped it down with one swipe. We are not asking for Heroes to be one-hitter quitters against speeders, but atleast they should to a significant amount of damage to a speeder. I think that is pretty reasonable don't who think. Come, let us reason together, rather than argue all the time.


    I don’t even want their regular gun to take a nerf. I’m fine with the people that decide they want to follow me around all game, have at it, a game of cat and mouse 😅. In my eyes the middle ability IS OP, something that was designed for vehicles kills heroes in 5 seconds.

    There are many ways to deal with heroes. I’m sure we can all manage one easy kill button not doing AS MUCH damage.

    Thanks man!! I’d love not to argue but this forum is inevitable 😂
  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    Yes i played as a reinforcement and any hero with lightsaber kill any reinforcement with only 2 sword thrust.

    Yes i played as a tank and normal troopers kill me easly. Heroes too. And in the closed maps or closed phases, there aren't vehicles.

    No, in this game hasn't teamwork but Anakin can kill all enemies in a room only push a button. In this case the teamwork is a joke.

    Yes i have used the stinger pistol in the fews times i have used a specialist. And the hero get close to me and kill me easly.

    Yes i have used a sentry and hero get close to me and kill me easly. Some times i get kill him.

    No, I don't think heroes are as inmortal gods.
    Hero fanatics as you want the heroes be inmortals and all powerful. This is the motive to nerf the speeders.

    You just don’t get it 😂😂. There are far more tools that can be used to kill heroes. And I don’t think even greivous can 2 swing reinforcements, who else two swings them? EVERYTHING we’ve mentioned can KILL A HERO REASONABLY, myself and others do it all the time. It isn’t about heroes killing you, it’s if you can kill heroes. You can still follow a hero around all game and shoot him with the regular blaster. What we want is the middle ability tweaked against heroes, you know, the ability that kills sabers in 5 seconds that’s MEANT for vehicles. If speeders are your only option to kill heroes I’m truly sorry. Everyone will still manage to kill heroes except for you I guess. I’m sorry I NEVER use speeders or stingers and have my fair share of jedi and Sith trophies added to my collection

    If you’re letting heroes kill you in 2 swings it sounds like a user error. If you’re dying to sabers in a tank im SURE it’s a user error. I’m not sure if you’ve used Anakin since launch but im not sure he does that anymore lol.

    You must admit that the heroes kill you the 99% times. You must be sincere.

    You are of the players that live more in the menu waiting get a hero than in the ground helping your team.

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  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    Yes i played as a reinforcement and any hero with lightsaber kill any reinforcement with only 2 sword thrust.

    Yes i played as a tank and normal troopers kill me easly. Heroes too. And in the closed maps or closed phases, there aren't vehicles.

    No, in this game hasn't teamwork but Anakin can kill all enemies in a room only push a button. In this case the teamwork is a joke.

    Yes i have used the stinger pistol in the fews times i have used a specialist. And the hero get close to me and kill me easly.

    Yes i have used a sentry and hero get close to me and kill me easly. Some times i get kill him.

    No, I don't think heroes are as inmortal gods.
    Hero fanatics as you want the heroes be inmortals and all powerful. This is the motive to nerf the speeders.

    You'll be alright. All this typing & they're still getting a fat nerf in 2 days lol.
  • OoiiHooked_22
    4465 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    Yes i played as a reinforcement and any hero with lightsaber kill any reinforcement with only 2 sword thrust.

    Yes i played as a tank and normal troopers kill me easly. Heroes too. And in the closed maps or closed phases, there aren't vehicles.

    No, in this game hasn't teamwork but Anakin can kill all enemies in a room only push a button. In this case the teamwork is a joke.

    Yes i have used the stinger pistol in the fews times i have used a specialist. And the hero get close to me and kill me easly.

    Yes i have used a sentry and hero get close to me and kill me easly. Some times i get kill him.

    No, I don't think heroes are as inmortal gods.
    Hero fanatics as you want the heroes be inmortals and all powerful. This is the motive to nerf the speeders.

    You just don’t get it 😂😂. There are far more tools that can be used to kill heroes. And I don’t think even greivous can 2 swing reinforcements, who else two swings them? EVERYTHING we’ve mentioned can KILL A HERO REASONABLY, myself and others do it all the time. It isn’t about heroes killing you, it’s if you can kill heroes. You can still follow a hero around all game and shoot him with the regular blaster. What we want is the middle ability tweaked against heroes, you know, the ability that kills sabers in 5 seconds that’s MEANT for vehicles. If speeders are your only option to kill heroes I’m truly sorry. Everyone will still manage to kill heroes except for you I guess. I’m sorry I NEVER use speeders or stingers and have my fair share of jedi and Sith trophies added to my collection

    If you’re letting heroes kill you in 2 swings it sounds like a user error. If you’re dying to sabers in a tank im SURE it’s a user error. I’m not sure if you’ve used Anakin since launch but im not sure he does that anymore lol.

    You must admit that the heroes kill you the 99% times. You must be sincere.

    You are of the players that live more in the menu waiting get a hero than in the ground helping your team.

    I’m one of those players that live rent free in your head and your fingers, leading you to the forums, I’m that hero that causes people to stay in the menu for a loooooooong time. I’ll admit I spend most of my time as a enforcer or hero 90% of all my games . I can not admit they kill me 99% because I know how to aim with overload as a enforcer. I’d say it’s 50/50 at best and 40/60 30/70 at worst which is hardly a problem, and their health bar pays for singling me out. Like I said. It’s more an issue that only speeders work against heroes for you, that’s an issue we need to tackle
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  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    Yes i played as a reinforcement and any hero with lightsaber kill any reinforcement with only 2 sword thrust.

    Yes i played as a tank and normal troopers kill me easly. Heroes too. And in the closed maps or closed phases, there aren't vehicles.

    No, in this game hasn't teamwork but Anakin can kill all enemies in a room only push a button. In this case the teamwork is a joke.

    Yes i have used the stinger pistol in the fews times i have used a specialist. And the hero get close to me and kill me easly.

    Yes i have used a sentry and hero get close to me and kill me easly. Some times i get kill him.

    No, I don't think heroes are as inmortal gods.
    Hero fanatics as you want the heroes be inmortals and all powerful. This is the motive to nerf the speeders.

    You just don’t get it 😂😂. There are far more tools that can be used to kill heroes. And I don’t think even greivous can 2 swing reinforcements, who else two swings them? EVERYTHING we’ve mentioned can KILL A HERO REASONABLY, myself and others do it all the time. It isn’t about heroes killing you, it’s if you can kill heroes. You can still follow a hero around all game and shoot him with the regular blaster. What we want is the middle ability tweaked against heroes, you know, the ability that kills sabers in 5 seconds that’s MEANT for vehicles. If speeders are your only option to kill heroes I’m truly sorry. Everyone will still manage to kill heroes except for you I guess. I’m sorry I NEVER use speeders or stingers and have my fair share of jedi and Sith trophies added to my collection

    If you’re letting heroes kill you in 2 swings it sounds like a user error. If you’re dying to sabers in a tank im SURE it’s a user error. I’m not sure if you’ve used Anakin since launch but im not sure he does that anymore lol.

    You must admit that the heroes kill you the 99% times. You must be sincere.

    You are of the players that live more in the menu waiting get a hero than in the ground helping your team.

    I’m one of those players that live rent free in your head and your fingers, leading you to the forums, I’m that hero that causes people to stay in the menu for a loooooooong time. I’ll admit I spend most of my time as a enforcer or hero 90% of all my games . I can not admit they kill me 99% because I know how to aim with overload as a enforcer. I’d say it’s 50/50 which is hardly a problem. Like I said. It’s more an issue that only speeders work against heroes for you, that’s an issue we need to tackle

    Yes, in Desth Star map i stay in the menu waiting to get a speeder yo kill heroes XD.

    Your conclusion: if you want funny this game you must get the hero first.

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  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    Yes i played as a reinforcement and any hero with lightsaber kill any reinforcement with only 2 sword thrust.

    Yes i played as a tank and normal troopers kill me easly. Heroes too. And in the closed maps or closed phases, there aren't vehicles.

    No, in this game hasn't teamwork but Anakin can kill all enemies in a room only push a button. In this case the teamwork is a joke.

    Yes i have used the stinger pistol in the fews times i have used a specialist. And the hero get close to me and kill me easly.

    Yes i have used a sentry and hero get close to me and kill me easly. Some times i get kill him.

    No, I don't think heroes are as inmortal gods.
    Hero fanatics as you want the heroes be inmortals and all powerful. This is the motive to nerf the speeders.

    You just don’t get it 😂😂. There are far more tools that can be used to kill heroes. And I don’t think even greivous can 2 swing reinforcements, who else two swings them? EVERYTHING we’ve mentioned can KILL A HERO REASONABLY, myself and others do it all the time. It isn’t about heroes killing you, it’s if you can kill heroes. You can still follow a hero around all game and shoot him with the regular blaster. What we want is the middle ability tweaked against heroes, you know, the ability that kills sabers in 5 seconds that’s MEANT for vehicles. If speeders are your only option to kill heroes I’m truly sorry. Everyone will still manage to kill heroes except for you I guess. I’m sorry I NEVER use speeders or stingers and have my fair share of jedi and Sith trophies added to my collection

    If you’re letting heroes kill you in 2 swings it sounds like a user error. If you’re dying to sabers in a tank im SURE it’s a user error. I’m not sure if you’ve used Anakin since launch but im not sure he does that anymore lol.

    You must admit that the heroes kill you the 99% times. You must be sincere.

    You are of the players that live more in the menu waiting get a hero than in the ground helping your team.

    I’m one of those players that live rent free in your head and your fingers, leading you to the forums, I’m that hero that causes people to stay in the menu for a loooooooong time. I’ll admit I spend most of my time as a enforcer or hero 90% of all my games . I can not admit they kill me 99% because I know how to aim with overload as a enforcer. I’d say it’s 50/50 at best and 40/60 30/70 at worst which is hardly a problem, and their health bar pays for singling me out. Like I said. It’s more an issue that only speeders work against heroes for you, that’s an issue we need to tackle

    First, thanks you admit the heroes are OP.

    The problem isn't only the speeders because the wookie warrior was nerfed because the same reason. And in the future the objective of hero fanatics are the tank and aerial.

    I will try avoid it.

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  • Lawnmow3rMan
    5098 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    @JediPacoElFlaco allow me to introduce you to enforcers! Overload is your new best friend. I dont think heroes are OP. I think vehicles are🤷‍♂️
  • JediPacoElFlaco
    1578 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    @JediPacoElFlaco allow me to introduce you to enforcers! Overload is your new best friend. I dont think heroes are OP. I think vehicles are🤷‍♂️

    Thanks for your advices. After + 2000 hours playing still i didn't know about enforcers.

    I can give you a advice too, Ion torpedo.

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  • @JediPacoElFlaco allow me to introduce you to enforcers! Overload is your new best friend. I dont think heroes are OP. I think vehicles are🤷‍♂️

    Thanks for your advices. After + 2000 hours playing still i didn't know about enforcers.

    I can give you a advice too, Ion torpedo.

    Ion torpedo and ion turret are my favorite abilities😈😈😈 still doesnt mean vehicles arent op
  • JediPacoElFlaco
    1578 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    @JediPacoElFlaco allow me to introduce you to enforcers! Overload is your new best friend. I dont think heroes are OP. I think vehicles are🤷‍♂️

    Thanks for your advices. After + 2000 hours playing still i didn't know about enforcers.

    I can give you a advice too, Ion torpedo.

    Ion torpedo and ion turret are my favorite abilities😈😈😈 still doesnt mean vehicles arent op

    No? With Ion Torpedo in few seconds you can destroy any vehicle. The speeder only needs less than 2 torpedos to be destroyed (snd 3 torpedos).But with the blasters of a normal trooper is still more easy.

    Your argument fail.

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  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    Yes i played as a reinforcement and any hero with lightsaber kill any reinforcement with only 2 sword thrust.

    Yes i played as a tank and normal troopers kill me easly. Heroes too. And in the closed maps or closed phases, there aren't vehicles.

    No, in this game hasn't teamwork but Anakin can kill all enemies in a room only push a button. In this case the teamwork is a joke.

    Yes i have used the stinger pistol in the fews times i have used a specialist. And the hero get close to me and kill me easly.

    Yes i have used a sentry and hero get close to me and kill me easly. Some times i get kill him.

    No, I don't think heroes are as inmortal gods.
    Hero fanatics as you want the heroes be inmortals and all powerful. This is the motive to nerf the speeders.

    You just don’t get it 😂😂. There are far more tools that can be used to kill heroes. And I don’t think even greivous can 2 swing reinforcements, who else two swings them? EVERYTHING we’ve mentioned can KILL A HERO REASONABLY, myself and others do it all the time. It isn’t about heroes killing you, it’s if you can kill heroes. You can still follow a hero around all game and shoot him with the regular blaster. What we want is the middle ability tweaked against heroes, you know, the ability that kills sabers in 5 seconds that’s MEANT for vehicles. If speeders are your only option to kill heroes I’m truly sorry. Everyone will still manage to kill heroes except for you I guess. I’m sorry I NEVER use speeders or stingers and have my fair share of jedi and Sith trophies added to my collection

    If you’re letting heroes kill you in 2 swings it sounds like a user error. If you’re dying to sabers in a tank im SURE it’s a user error. I’m not sure if you’ve used Anakin since launch but im not sure he does that anymore lol.

    You must admit that the heroes kill you the 99% times. You must be sincere.

    You are of the players that live more in the menu waiting get a hero than in the ground helping your team.

    I’m one of those players that live rent free in your head and your fingers, leading you to the forums, I’m that hero that causes people to stay in the menu for a loooooooong time. I’ll admit I spend most of my time as a enforcer or hero 90% of all my games . I can not admit they kill me 99% because I know how to aim with overload as a enforcer. I’d say it’s 50/50 at best and 40/60 30/70 at worst which is hardly a problem, and their health bar pays for singling me out. Like I said. It’s more an issue that only speeders work against heroes for you, that’s an issue we need to tackle

    First, thanks you admit the heroes are OP.

    The problem isn't only the speeders because the wookie warrior was nerfed because the same reason. And in the future the objective of hero fanatics are the tank and aerial.

    I will try avoid it.

    I think they will turn towards the stinger next.


  • Lawnmow3rMan
    5098 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    @JediPacoElFlaco allow me to introduce you to enforcers! Overload is your new best friend. I dont think heroes are OP. I think vehicles are🤷‍♂️

    Thanks for your advices. After + 2000 hours playing still i didn't know about enforcers.

    I can give you a advice too, Ion torpedo.

    Ion torpedo and ion turret are my favorite abilities😈😈😈 still doesnt mean vehicles arent op

    No? With Ion Torpedo in few seconds you can destroy any vehicle. The speeder only needs less than 2 torpedos to be destroyed (snd 3 torpedos).But with the blasters of a normal trooper is still more easy.

    Your argument fail.

    I disagree. The heavy is the only viable counter to a vehicle. Yeah you can do damage with the guns of normal troopers but that doesnt even work half the time. If it see you you're dead in one hit and it can also run you over. Vehicles should have other viable counters rather than just one of four base trooper classes. Heroes should also be able to damage them with lightsabers especially since they cost half the bp of a hero. We have all seen RotJ when Luke takes out a speeder in one saber swing, and most of us have CW when Yoda cuts the bottom of the tank out and hops right in. I'm not saying heroes should one hit a vehicle but they should certainly be able to deal significant damage. Tanks take more than 3 ion torpedoes. You can put out ion turret and shoot it with torpedo and it's still very likely to kill you first. Speeders cost 150 bp. In no way shape or form should it OHK a 4000 point hero. To me vehicles are a much bigger problem than heroes. Easier to get and easier to kill with.
  • @JediPacoElFlaco allow me to introduce you to enforcers! Overload is your new best friend. I dont think heroes are OP. I think vehicles are🤷‍♂️

    Thanks for your advices. After + 2000 hours playing still i didn't know about enforcers.

    I can give you a advice too, Ion torpedo.

    Ion torpedo and ion turret are my favorite abilities😈😈😈 still doesnt mean vehicles arent op

    No? With Ion Torpedo in few seconds you can destroy any vehicle. The speeder only needs less than 2 torpedos to be destroyed (snd 3 torpedos).But with the blasters of a normal trooper is still more easy.

    Your argument fail.

    I disagree. The heavy is the only viable counter to a vehicle. Yeah you can do damage with the guns of normal troopers but that doesnt even work half the time. If it see you you're dead in one hit and it can also run you over. Vehicles should have other viable counters rather than just one of four base trooper classes. Heroes should also be able to damage them with lightsabers especially since they cost half the bp of a hero. We have all seen RotJ when Luke takes out a speeder in one saber swing, and most of us have CW when Yoda cuts the bottom of the tank out and hops right in. I'm not saying heroes should one hit a vehicle but they should certainly be able to deal significant damage. Tanks take more than 3 ion torpedoes. You can put out ion turret and shoot it with torpedo and it's still very likely to kill you first. Speeders cost 150 bp. In no way shape or form should it OHK a 4000 point hero. To me vehicles are a much bigger problem than heroes. Easier to get and easier to kill with.

    Incorrect about just using 1 class, Heavy, to kill vehicles. The Assault class with SIG and an ION attachment for the blaster is quite effective against vehicles. Specialist with NT equipped ION shot is also effective against vehicles. Officer with HS kills speeder and AT-RT drivers and apparently the Officer turret now targets all vehicles.

    If heroes are getting killed by speeders then there’s 2 reasons why.
    1 - bad hero players
    2 - good hero players with bad teammates

    So now instead of a slight increase in the cost of a speeder, which would be a easy and acceptable change, DICE is going to break something with the nerfing the damage. yay.
  • @JediPacoElFlaco allow me to introduce you to enforcers! Overload is your new best friend. I dont think heroes are OP. I think vehicles are🤷‍♂️

    Thanks for your advices. After + 2000 hours playing still i didn't know about enforcers.

    I can give you a advice too, Ion torpedo.

    Ion torpedo and ion turret are my favorite abilities😈😈😈 still doesnt mean vehicles arent op

    No? With Ion Torpedo in few seconds you can destroy any vehicle. The speeder only needs less than 2 torpedos to be destroyed (snd 3 torpedos).But with the blasters of a normal trooper is still more easy.

    Your argument fail.

    I disagree. The heavy is the only viable counter to a vehicle. Yeah you can do damage with the guns of normal troopers but that doesnt even work half the time. If it see you you're dead in one hit and it can also run you over. Vehicles should have other viable counters rather than just one of four base trooper classes. Heroes should also be able to damage them with lightsabers especially since they cost half the bp of a hero. We have all seen RotJ when Luke takes out a speeder in one saber swing, and most of us have CW when Yoda cuts the bottom of the tank out and hops right in. I'm not saying heroes should one hit a vehicle but they should certainly be able to deal significant damage. Tanks take more than 3 ion torpedoes. You can put out ion turret and shoot it with torpedo and it's still very likely to kill you first. Speeders cost 150 bp. In no way shape or form should it OHK a 4000 point hero. To me vehicles are a much bigger problem than heroes. Easier to get and easier to kill with.

    Speeder bike killstreak: 30 - 40 max
    Hero killstreak: 150 - 300

    And the real difference is more biggest because the normal troopers easly can destroy a speeder.

    I could accept increase a little the speeder price but not a nerf.


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  • @JediPacoElFlaco allow me to introduce you to enforcers! Overload is your new best friend. I dont think heroes are OP. I think vehicles are🤷‍♂️

    Thanks for your advices. After + 2000 hours playing still i didn't know about enforcers.

    I can give you a advice too, Ion torpedo.

    Ion torpedo and ion turret are my favorite abilities😈😈😈 still doesnt mean vehicles arent op

    No? With Ion Torpedo in few seconds you can destroy any vehicle. The speeder only needs less than 2 torpedos to be destroyed (snd 3 torpedos).But with the blasters of a normal trooper is still more easy.

    Your argument fail.

    I disagree. The heavy is the only viable counter to a vehicle. Yeah you can do damage with the guns of normal troopers but that doesnt even work half the time. If it see you you're dead in one hit and it can also run you over. Vehicles should have other viable counters rather than just one of four base trooper classes. Heroes should also be able to damage them with lightsabers especially since they cost half the bp of a hero. We have all seen RotJ when Luke takes out a speeder in one saber swing, and most of us have CW when Yoda cuts the bottom of the tank out and hops right in. I'm not saying heroes should one hit a vehicle but they should certainly be able to deal significant damage. Tanks take more than 3 ion torpedoes. You can put out ion turret and shoot it with torpedo and it's still very likely to kill you first. Speeders cost 150 bp. In no way shape or form should it OHK a 4000 point hero. To me vehicles are a much bigger problem than heroes. Easier to get and easier to kill with.

    Incorrect about just using 1 class, Heavy, to kill vehicles. The Assault class with SIG and an ION attachment for the blaster is quite effective against vehicles. Specialist with NT equipped ION shot is also effective against vehicles. Officer with HS kills speeder and AT-RT drivers and apparently the Officer turret now targets all vehicles.

    If heroes are getting killed by speeders then there’s 2 reasons why.
    1 - bad hero players
    2 - good hero players with bad teammates

    So now instead of a slight increase in the cost of a speeder, which would be a easy and acceptable change, DICE is going to break something with the nerfing the damage. yay.

    Let me clarify. The comment I made about the trooper classes refers to tanks. I know any trooper can shoot the driver off a speeder. Go up against a tank with assault or specialist and see who wins. Heck take any hero and do the same. I'm fine with speeders damage as long as bp increases and they make it so sabers can kill them. Tanks should be susceptible to saber damage also.
  • F8RGE
    986 posts EA Community Manager
    "Tweaked the damage values for Speeders, so that they are prevented from potentially killing Heroes in one shot."
  • bf2pro
    232 posts Member
    edited September 2019
    @JediPacoElFlaco allow me to introduce you to enforcers! Overload is your new best friend. I dont think heroes are OP. I think vehicles are🤷‍♂️

    Thanks for your advices. After + 2000 hours playing still i didn't know about enforcers.

    I can give you a advice too, Ion torpedo.

    Ion torpedo and ion turret are my favorite abilities😈😈😈 still doesnt mean vehicles arent op

    No? With Ion Torpedo in few seconds you can destroy any vehicle. The speeder only needs less than 2 torpedos to be destroyed (snd 3 torpedos).But with the blasters of a normal trooper is still more easy.

    Your argument fail.

    I disagree. The heavy is the only viable counter to a vehicle. Yeah you can do damage with the guns of normal troopers but that doesnt even work half the time. If it see you you're dead in one hit and it can also run you over. Vehicles should have other viable counters rather than just one of four base trooper classes. Heroes should also be able to damage them with lightsabers especially since they cost half the bp of a hero. We have all seen RotJ when Luke takes out a speeder in one saber swing, and most of us have CW when Yoda cuts the bottom of the tank out and hops right in. I'm not saying heroes should one hit a vehicle but they should certainly be able to deal significant damage. Tanks take more than 3 ion torpedoes. You can put out ion turret and shoot it with torpedo and it's still very likely to kill you first. Speeders cost 150 bp. In no way shape or form should it OHK a 4000 point hero. To me vehicles are a much bigger problem than heroes. Easier to get and easier to kill with.

    Incorrect about just using 1 class, Heavy, to kill vehicles. The Assault class with SIG and an ION attachment for the blaster is quite effective against vehicles. Specialist with NT equipped ION shot is also effective against vehicles. Officer with HS kills speeder and AT-RT drivers and apparently the Officer turret now targets all vehicles.

    If heroes are getting killed by speeders then there’s 2 reasons why.
    1 - bad hero players
    2 - good hero players with bad teammates

    So now instead of a slight increase in the cost of a speeder, which would be a easy and acceptable change, DICE is going to break something with the nerfing the damage. yay.

    If allowing heroes to damage speeders completely breaks them in your view, you're admitting you only use them as a cheap way to kill heroes and nothing else. That's never what they were intended for. And the burst damage is way too high against everything, not just heroes.
  • F8RGE wrote: »
    "Tweaked the damage values for Speeders, so that they are prevented from potentially killing Heroes in one shot."

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  • Solution? Stick by your team if you are a hero. Run, but allow them to keep with you.

    That’s not a solution. That’s a handicap for using a hero

    You want that the heroes be inmortsl gods.

    Have you played as a reinforcement? Have you played as a tank? Have you used teamwork as a trooper? Have you used a stinger? Have you used a vanguard? Have you used a sentry? Have you used a NT?

    You THINK heroes are immortal gods 😉😂😂

    Yes i played as a reinforcement and any hero with lightsaber kill any reinforcement with only 2 sword thrust.

    Yes i played as a tank and normal troopers kill me easly. Heroes too. And in the closed maps or closed phases, there aren't vehicles.

    No, in this game hasn't teamwork but Anakin can kill all enemies in a room only push a button. In this case the teamwork is a joke.

    Yes i have used the stinger pistol in the fews times i have used a specialist. And the hero get close to me and kill me easly.

    Yes i have used a sentry and hero get close to me and kill me easly. Some times i get kill him.

    No, I don't think heroes are as inmortal gods.
    Hero fanatics as you want the heroes be inmortals and all powerful. This is the motive to nerf the speeders.

    You just don’t get it 😂😂. There are far more tools that can be used to kill heroes. And I don’t think even greivous can 2 swing reinforcements, who else two swings them? EVERYTHING we’ve mentioned can KILL A HERO REASONABLY, myself and others do it all the time. It isn’t about heroes killing you, it’s if you can kill heroes. You can still follow a hero around all game and shoot him with the regular blaster. What we want is the middle ability tweaked against heroes, you know, the ability that kills sabers in 5 seconds that’s MEANT for vehicles. If speeders are your only option to kill heroes I’m truly sorry. Everyone will still manage to kill heroes except for you I guess. I’m sorry I NEVER use speeders or stingers and have my fair share of jedi and Sith trophies added to my collection

    If you’re letting heroes kill you in 2 swings it sounds like a user error. If you’re dying to sabers in a tank im SURE it’s a user error. I’m not sure if you’ve used Anakin since launch but im not sure he does that anymore lol.

    You must admit that the heroes kill you the 99% times. You must be sincere.

    You are of the players that live more in the menu waiting get a hero than in the ground helping your team.

    I’m one of those players that live rent free in your head and your fingers, leading you to the forums, I’m that hero that causes people to stay in the menu for a loooooooong time. I’ll admit I spend most of my time as a enforcer or hero 90% of all my games . I can not admit they kill me 99% because I know how to aim with overload as a enforcer. I’d say it’s 50/50 at best and 40/60 30/70 at worst which is hardly a problem, and their health bar pays for singling me out. Like I said. It’s more an issue that only speeders work against heroes for you, that’s an issue we need to tackle

    First, thanks you admit the heroes are OP.

    The problem isn't only the speeders because the wookie warrior was nerfed because the same reason. And in the future the objective of hero fanatics are the tank and aerial.

    I will try avoid it.

    You really think everything is nerfed because of the hero 😂. I did no such thing, I just know how to take out heroes without another hero or speeder, unlike some people I guess. If you need any tips to kill them lemme know! Always happy to help
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