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The point of Co Op is to capture command posts

The past several days it's become pretty clear a lot of people are playing Co Op ONLY to level up their troops. The sheer number of times we've been defeated at the first or second command post because one or several players, rather than working toward the victory, have grabbed a hero and are just off by themselves slaughtering AI for BP.
Here's the thing.
First, we lose. And losing sucks.
Second, when you're occupying a command post, the enemy will swarm, giving you MANY opportunities for ridiculous kill steaks and assists. WAY more than if you're on your own taking down strays running around the battlefield.
Yeah, you might still get 1st or 2nd place, but we lose. And it's also not fun to be the only person trying to complete the objectives. I love pairing up with another live player of a different class and covering them. Working together is fun, y0. If you just wanna slaughter, then go do a battle royale mode. There are several.
/RANT

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  • Also, pay attention to which post your team is presently trying to occupy, and consolidate effort there. Where you go, your AI teammates will follow. The more troops are at the post, the faster you capture it. It's pointless to wander off and try to capture one solo, if the rest of your team is all at a different location. You're just going to get fragged and not help your team at all.
  • Can’t say I’ve had this issue myself. Besides, the jokes on them. They would get more xp capturing points and proceeding to the next stages than running off and getting a few kills on a single phase.
    Teamwork is always a problem though when a bunch of randoms get together. No voice chat doesn’t exactly help. But like I said, I’ve not had an issue with what you’re experiencing. Are you sure it’s not a rage reaction at people getting heroes before you?
  • I thought they were just ****... I usually hold them alone while the muppets are little yellow dots in the distance. lol

    Luckily it's not hard enough to need all the team mates anyway.

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  • OcDoc
    2155 posts Member
    Let the (friendly) bots sit in the control points. I gotta go kill somebody, maybe even everybody.

    And it isn’t like my team loses, so I don’t see the problem.
  • PopoTateo wrote: »
    Are you sure it’s not a rage reaction at people getting heroes before you?

    I don't think so, mostly because the command post icons show how many teammates are occupying them, and I'll always go where someone else is (or spawn on them). Often I choose default spawn point because no one is working the objective, and when I select their spawn point I can see them just running around as Dooku. Always Dooku...

    Again, this is NOT every time I play, but frequently enough that I notice. To be fair, I might notice because I'm not a [email protected]**** at this game. I'm good enough to play and score, but I'm never going to run the tables, so playing without support of another live player is definitely something I'd notice more than someone who's been playing since launch and routinely gets #1 ranking.

    But yeah, joke's definitely on them, because as Bossk I can mine the command post and get 8 kills at a whack when the enemy surges and rushes the post. It's hilarious. I've taken him from level 1 to level 35 in less than a week!

  • Batman20
    2723 posts Member
    I haven’t experienced this problem because the majority of the AI is at the command posts. So if you wanna get a ton of kills with a hero you kind of have to play the objective as that’s where the AI head to
  • vonVile
    533 posts Member
    edited October 2019
    The past several days it's become pretty clear a lot of people are playing Co Op ONLY to level up their troops. The sheer number of times we've been defeated at the first or second command post because one or several players, rather than working toward the victory, have grabbed a hero and are just off by themselves slaughtering AI for BP.
    Isn't this what BF2 is all about? To be the first one to grab a Hero and not care about the map objective. That's the way DICE designed it.
  • The past several days it's become pretty clear a lot of people are playing Co Op ONLY to level up their troops. The sheer number of times we've been defeated at the first or second command post because one or several players, rather than working toward the victory, have grabbed a hero and are just off by themselves slaughtering AI for BP.
    Here's the thing.
    First, we lose. And losing sucks.
    Second, when you're occupying a command post, the enemy will swarm, giving you MANY opportunities for ridiculous kill steaks and assists. WAY more than if you're on your own taking down strays running around the battlefield.
    Yeah, you might still get 1st or 2nd place, but we lose. And it's also not fun to be the only person trying to complete the objectives. I love pairing up with another live player of a different class and covering them. Working together is fun, y0. If you just wanna slaughter, then go do a battle royale mode. There are several.
    /RANT

    You sound like a nice player to play with
  • chairmankaga525

    I've seen the same in my co-op matches too, but not a majority of the time. Send me a friend request, so we can hook up on co-op if you plan on PC.

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  • Batman20
    2723 posts Member
    What do you play on pc or console if your ps4 i would happily help you out in co op I always play the objective
  • I'm not really seeing this issue in-game, & quite frankly even with rather uncoordinated teams once you've learned the "ideal" command posts to target on each level, you can at least start to capture & easily contest them until your teammates get their act together.
  • I've played around 150 matches of Co Op now. I've lost maybe 3 or 4 times. The thing is, it's incredibly easy to win if all 4 people are on one point. Laughably so. Hence why some of us just go at different points to farm more kills, and exp. I get your point on playing OBJ, but at the same time, people want to level up their heroes, and they want more of a challenge. Going off on your own and fighting hordes of enemies is infinitely harder than sitting on one point, with all your friendly AI around you, and your 3 other co op friends, getting lucky to slaughter one group of people before your buddies do.

    This game mode can be done with just 2 people working together, which is why it really puzzles me why you need 3 people to start the game. It's not hard at all. And it's much more fun to just slaughter AI then to sit on an OBJ and wait for AI to come to you. Sometimes the AI bunches up and goes to the opposite OBJ where no one is and just stays there. I cannot tell you how many times that's happened to me and my friend. Hence why we just go out and slaughter them.
  • Starmasui73146
    1994 posts Member
    edited October 2019
    The past several days it's become pretty clear a lot of people are playing "Co-Op" ONLY to level up their troops. The sheer number of times we've been defeated at the first or second command post because one or several players, rather than working toward the victory, have grabbed a hero and are just off by themselves slaughtering AI for BP.

    Here's the thing.
    First, we lose. And losing sucks.
    Second, when you're occupying a command post, the enemy will swarm, giving you MANY opportunities for ridiculous kill steaks and assists. WAY more than if you're on your own taking down strays running around the battlefield.
    Yeah, you might still get 1st or 2nd place, but we lose. And it's also not fun to be the only person trying to complete the objectives. I love pairing up with another live player of a different class and covering them. Working together is fun, you know. If you just wanna slaughter, then go do a battle royale mode. There are several.

    Also, pay attention to which post your team is presently trying to occupy, and consolidate effort there. Where you go, your AI teammates will follow. The more troops are at the post, the faster you capture it. It's pointless to wander off and try to capture one solo, if the rest of your team is all at a different location. You're just going to get fragged and not help your team at all. /RANT

    Yeah they are doing this on double and triple score days in Co-Op to level up.

    Your right that the CP gets the most kills, especially Command Post "A" on Felucia. I call that CP "Custer's Last Stand" because they literally come at you from all sides at times, even from the hill you came from. They'll sneak around behind you. So yeah, lots of kills.

    But here's the thing, not every body wants to go to the same CP over and over and over and over again. It really starts to get redundant. So how about this, instead of being upset they went to a different CP just join them and have a completely new unique experience.

    Good advice: As for phase 1 Felucia the wisest and easiest Command Post to take is not the Command Post B with the rock arch right in front of your spawn (that's actually the one they hit really hard from all angles). Go instead up the hill and take Command Post C by the cave instead, it's easier to defend.

    Also Phase 2 Command Post A on Felucia can be a real nightmare for unseasoned players, thats were most beginners fail. Going to the the B Command Post right on the hut above it is your best bet, just sayin'. Plus, you can run into the hut for quick heals. It's a little duller and it may not be as exciting but it gets the job done.

    P.S. - You do have to step out though to fight when time runs out or you will lose, the hut does not count even if your in the CP circle.


    So alls I'm trying to say is just because they go to another CP does not mean your CP is the better choice. Plus variation is cool, sometimes also intentionally picking yet another CP is fun too, it keeps things fresh.



    As for players leveling up, yeah as long as there are people just starting your going to have that.
    But who knows maybe they will listen to you on this thread and stay in the CP. I just played on Naboo and had a guy playing as Darth Maul. He keep leaving the CP and when my tank blew up and we lost. So yeah I hear you.

    PopoTateo wrote: »
    Are you sure it’s not a rage reaction at people getting heroes before you?
    I got to admit after that guy abandon us on that CP I was not happy.
    I don't think so, mostly because the command post icons show how many teammates are occupying them, and I'll always go where someone else is (or spawn on them). Often I choose default spawn point because no one is working the objective, and when I select their spawn point I can see them just running around as Dooku. Always Dooku...

    Again, this is NOT every time I play, but frequently enough that I notice. To be fair, I might notice because I'm not a [email protected]***** at this game. I'm good enough to play and score, but I'm never going to run the tables, so playing without support of another live player is definitely something I'd notice more than someone who's been playing since launch and routinely gets #1 ranking.

    But yeah, joke's definitely on them, because as Bossk I can mine the command post and get 8 kills at a whack when the enemy surges and rushes the post. It's hilarious. I've taken him from level 1 to level 35 in less than a week!
    So your a team player but not necessarily a strategist you just follow the crowd, got it. Yeah Bossk is awesome.
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  • Also, pay attention to which post your team is presently trying to occupy, and consolidate effort there. Where you go, your AI teammates will follow. The more troops are at the post, the faster you capture it. It's pointless to wander off and try to capture one solo, if the rest of your team is all at a different location. You're just going to get fragged and not help your team at all.

    So, i agree and disagree with this. I have in quite a few occasions gone to the command post no one is trying to capture and it causes the AI to have to split forcus and allows the command post that the team is concentrating on to be captured faster and easier.
  • camerog wrote: »
    Also, pay attention to which post your team is presently trying to occupy, and consolidate effort there. Where you go, your AI teammates will follow. The more troops are at the post, the faster you capture it. It's pointless to wander off and try to capture one solo, if the rest of your team is all at a different location. You're just going to get fragged and not help your team at all.

    So, i agree and disagree with this. I have in quite a few occasions gone to the command post no one is trying to capture and it causes the AI to have to split forcus and allows the command post that the team is concentrating on to be captured faster and easier.

    Indeed, and on some maps one CP will get the majority of activity regardless of whether anyone's there or not. Even if the entire team goes to C on Felucia stage 1, it just won't get rushed nearly as hard as B.
  • Maybe I've gotten lucky but all the co-op games I've played every team made it to the final post at least. I've been playing with randoms as well.
  • Mystical wrote: »
    Maybe I've gotten lucky but all the co-op games I've played every team made it to the final post at least. I've been playing with randoms as well.

    I've never not made it to the final post, actually the only time I haven't won is the final phase on Naboo and Felucia.

    Have they added more AI to the Co-op? Felucia seemed a bit harder yesterday... Maybe it was just me...

    You do get some muppets on here though... I was on the second to last phase on Geonosis taking Alpha (or whatever it was, the left one) had it 3/4 done while my "team mates" were farming kills and then suddenly the Bravo post starts getting taken while I'm trying to get Alpha done... How hard is it to see a post is nearly taken therefore starting anothe is not the best idea... I ended up taking it alone anyway...

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  • The past several days it's become pretty clear a lot of people are playing Co Op ONLY to level up their troops. The sheer number of times we've been defeated at the first or second command post because one or several players, rather than working toward the victory, have grabbed a hero and are just off by themselves slaughtering AI for BP.
    Here's the thing.
    First, we lose. And losing sucks.
    Second, when you're occupying a command post, the enemy will swarm, giving you MANY opportunities for ridiculous kill steaks and assists. WAY more than if you're on your own taking down strays running around the battlefield.
    Yeah, you might still get 1st or 2nd place, but we lose. And it's also not fun to be the only person trying to complete the objectives. I love pairing up with another live player of a different class and covering them. Working together is fun, y0. If you just wanna slaughter, then go do a battle royale mode. There are several.
    /RANT

    Sure i get it, i play the objective but if we got 8mins to take a objective because my team did well i'm gonna go get some kills :D
  • That's fine. I just get ticked when I'm playing on a team that's only concerned with leveling up their heroes and we lose badly. It seems to be the worst on Felucia, with people getting XP for ANakin and Obi, or on Naboo for Bossk or Grievous. Those guys just wander off down the hill, sometimes just far enough to NOT get CP points, leaving me and our bots to get slaughtered. Felucia is worse since they moved the CP to the top of the hill on that path. Just annoying.
  • That's fine. I just get ticked when I'm playing on a team that's only concerned with leveling up their heroes and we lose badly. It seems to be the worst on Felucia, with people getting XP for ANakin and Obi, or on Naboo for Bossk or Grievous. Those guys just wander off down the hill, sometimes just far enough to NOT get CP points, leaving me and our bots to get slaughtered. Felucia is worse since they moved the CP to the top of the hill on that path. Just annoying.

    I use Bossk on Naboo and end up with 150+ kills playing the objective and winning.

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  • Probably because if all everyone did was capture command posts, every round would be over in less than 10 minutes, and that’s boring.
  • Yeah, if you want to kill enemies go play TDM or arcade
  • You seriously didn't expect there to be the people who grind their characters to just do that on a mode against AI that gives crap tons of XP? Don't get me wrong yeah you do get more XP for capturing command posts, but there are gonna be players like that in almost every mode. When I play there's usually one grinder in the server and the other 2 players support me with the command posts
  • bfloo
    17005 posts Member
    You seriously didn't expect there to be the people who grind their characters to just do that on a mode against AI that gives crap tons of XP? Don't get me wrong yeah you do get more XP for capturing command posts, but there are gonna be players like that in almost every mode. When I play there's usually one grinder in the server and the other 2 players support me with the command posts

    The 1000 level cap encourages grinding. I feel bad for the completionists, getting everything to 1000 takes a lot of commitment.
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