It's (past) time Outer Rim went Vanilla
We've requested this one to death, but as Rogue One DLC is on its way... DICE plz. The playlists are about as unanimously hated as unanimous gets. Can we solve it now?
The problems are that no-one wants to be kicked around into modes they didn't choose, or don't enjoy, particularly when trying to enjoy the core mode introduced in the dlc. You recognised this when you limited the number of 'filler' modes in Death Star, the thing is, we kinda want the option to play those modes. We also don't generally want to play 'a few rounds of Blast' by hopping across several playlists to find the maps we enjoy.
The fix has been kicking around on these boards for months. You move the dlc maps into regular rotation for all players, leaving the current OR playlist as Extraction only.
• We get the dedicated Extraction playlist most of us wanted
• The vanilla rotations are freshened up with new content
• HvV etc can now simply roll from Hoth to Jabba's Palace, no more unnecessary segregation
• Non DLC holders get a few new maps we've had for decades already
Can you start to make this happen yet? Followed by Bespin and so on? As a season pass holder I win, my game makes more sense, and non-SP holders win too, they get some maps. We retain the dlc exclusive modes/weapons/heroes.
No-one loses here. We all win. Have a meeting or something. It's the only way around it, the playlist is still not working.
The problems are that no-one wants to be kicked around into modes they didn't choose, or don't enjoy, particularly when trying to enjoy the core mode introduced in the dlc. You recognised this when you limited the number of 'filler' modes in Death Star, the thing is, we kinda want the option to play those modes. We also don't generally want to play 'a few rounds of Blast' by hopping across several playlists to find the maps we enjoy.
The fix has been kicking around on these boards for months. You move the dlc maps into regular rotation for all players, leaving the current OR playlist as Extraction only.
• We get the dedicated Extraction playlist most of us wanted
• The vanilla rotations are freshened up with new content
• HvV etc can now simply roll from Hoth to Jabba's Palace, no more unnecessary segregation
• Non DLC holders get a few new maps we've had for decades already
Can you start to make this happen yet? Followed by Bespin and so on? As a season pass holder I win, my game makes more sense, and non-SP holders win too, they get some maps. We retain the dlc exclusive modes/weapons/heroes.
No-one loses here. We all win. Have a meeting or something. It's the only way around it, the playlist is still not working.
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In December, players who didn't buy the whole game get it free on EA Access, that's the point we're at. Outer Rim has been out for ages by this point, opening up the maps from three DLCs back isn't really too much of a giveaway, it certainly wouldn't devalue my experience.
Pirate of the Knights of Gareth
EA access still costs a good amount of money so it's not really free... And it wouldn't devalue my experience either... Like I said I like the idea but a lot of people will feel cheated out of their money if The DLC content is implimented into the base game without extra pay for everyone
- tankertoad
You guys basically paid for "Early Access".
Y'all need to get past this mentality. The entire game is going to be free starting in December.
100%. We've talked about this for ages. What's the next step? Someone want to hit up Dennis on Twitter? I would, but he hates me.
I honestly suspect that those people are the ones who scream 'refund' and 'class action' every five minutes and can be legitimately ignored. Anyone who actually wants an improved Battlefront should see the sense in it.
I personally don't really care anymore if they add the DLC to the base game. I truly don't. But a lot of people don't share the same mindset as us. They'll think it's unfair since these people didn't pay for basically another whole game... And EA isn't making battlefront free for everyone. For 30.00$ yearly it'll be "free"
Agreed. We could make a reddit post and see where people are at? It's an important idea that needs some serious discussion for the sake of the game. Maybe @Jaywal has a suggestion as to how to forward this...
Which I am ok with.
Well.. Aside from imaginary people being disgruntled about it, the only problem I really see is that they balanced the maps for different player numbers than the base game versions of those modes.. o.o; This change is necessary to extend the life of the game and prevent the season pass content being barren to the point where it's lost all value anyway.. I think that's pretty obvious to many players.. o.o;
The only reason those player counts have to match up in the dlcs is because of the playlist rotation. Eliminate that rotation and the player count only has to match the count for a given mode.
The idea of this thread is 6 months old. We're trying to get it implemented now that the dlcs are getting old to the point that people shouldn't care whether or not they're free.
I am all for implementing what's suggested in this thread. As others have said, it would totally consolidate the fan base that's stuck with it.
Adding maps to the base game will refresh game play..
Season pass holders still get cards,heros and extraction..
I'm not against giving extraction to non dlc holders...
I also can't understand why they haven't added any new maps ..or use existing maps to play extraction...I can think of a few maps that game play would be nice
It would hurt nothing to drop Bespin Supremacy, TP, WA, Blast, and Fighter Squadron into their respective vanilla modes. I don't think anyone would care. Outer Rim - drop HvV into its mode. Don't think anyone would care. Leave the weapons and the specialty modes for those with the DLC.
Or just freaking open it all up because WGAF? I hate the playlists so much. I used to write post after post "I just want to play Extraction".
But Bespin WA and TP are so bland they make vanilla sound like chocolate fudge with denali and marshmallows.
I say throw OR and Bespin in there together. I'd think that would give people incentive to either (re)buy the game or try EA access. Especially around the holidays.
Breaks down to less than three bucks a month. Not free, but close
XBL- JsOnMyFett 13
This.
Though If i were still on PC i would not want the complete game to become totaly free. (Cheaters)
edited becaused i messed up the qoutes
I have SP and have absolutely no problem with that, but I can understand those who do
A portion of it gets given out for free, making your game better. I can't find any agreement with anyone who says "don't improve my experience if it means *those people* get something better too.' It's just taking your ball home so no-one can play.
PS your username is awesome
it would be better for the game
DLC should be marketed as 12 months of early access (or whatever time period)
DLC always gets given away in some special edition as a game starts to age anyway
Agree with all bar the heroes part. They stay exclusive. But all for maps being integrated though!
But only when Lando gets fixed
It might seem ironic to say this, but Lando is actually severely underpowered. Take away the 1-shot power blast (which they will do next patch), and what does he have left? His disruption is borderline useless, more of an afterthought than a hero ability. And his X-8 shots seem to fire so slowly that I physically age between the time i fire and when it collides with the rock behind where the storm trooper was 5 years ago. His is the only hero gun I have this problem with, too.
No he isn't, his trait helps alot, he's real good imo.
I am more precise when hip-firing instead of aiming with Lando
@Anoh At close range the gun is fine, but anything more than 35 metres and it simply doesn't seem to hit the person - and I know how to lead a target, so its not just bad aiming. I agree on hip-firing for sure though.
Buff Tankertoad!!!
Pirate of the Knights of Gareth
@Bounty_Hunter The funny thing is that most SP-holders feel this way, because we hate playlists. Don't make everything free, just maps. Never understood exclusive maps anyway, divides the player base