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Star Wars Battlefront II - Weapons

MBSONIC
393 posts Member
There is something that has genuinely been bothering me...... You know in the gameplay,mid you look at the support they are the ones carrying the DC-15 battle rifle which is a pretty big and long rifle. Though in the movies the assault or normal troopers were carrying those guns, not the support, plus there were no support-like troopers in the movies unless they are counting the shows! Even in the original battlefronts the normal soldiers had that gun. EA I hope your reading this. There is some stuff to fix.
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  • Darkaid
    9643 posts Member
    1. What are "Support" troopers?
    2. Heavy Class uses DC-15.
    3. It doesn't need fixing.
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  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    Uh......yeah I kinda does need fixing. Since the first battlefront game the DC-15 was the normal troopers weapon! Even in episode 2 the weapon was used by the normal assualt-like troopers! If EA is going to try to keep things accurate and close to the films they need to fix that, also no like I said in my first comment no support or heavy class units were in the movies! If we are going by the show which was the only place I saw heavy clone troopers they used completely different larger weapons!
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  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    Either way it's just my opinion that it should be fixed because to me with the gameplay I saw the regular troopers just did not look right without their signature weapons.
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  • Darkaid
    9643 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    The Heavy Class is just fine with the DC-15. It really does not matter. They're still Clone Troopers. Assault troopers don't need the DC-15 if the Heavy Class uses it. I still don't know what you mean by Support troopers. If you mean Specialists are support, I recommend you look at Commander Cody and Commander Bly, who resemble those troopers. I still don't see the problem, and this 'issue' most definitely will not be changed, as there is no problem.
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  • SWymsa
    953 posts Member
    He means support as in gunners, (machinegunner class).

    The DC-15 is a blaster rifle, not a heavy blaster which seems to be the point i reckon.
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  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    SWymsa wrote: »
    He means support as in gunners, (machinegunner class).

    The DC-15 is a blaster rifle, not a heavy blaster which seems to be the point i reckon.

    Correct though I guess I should start saying heavy instead of support. But yeah that is the point it is not a machine gun so it should not act like one or be held like one. They could maybe at least have it where when you zoom in u hold it like a battle rifle
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  • MBSONIC wrote: »
    like I said in my first comment no support or heavy class units were in the movies! If we are going by the show which was the only place I saw heavy clone troopers they used completely different larger weapons!

    I think your forgetting one crucial point here...

    This is a VIDEO GAME not an exact mirror image of the movies.

  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    MBSONIC wrote: »
    like I said in my first comment no support or heavy class units were in the movies! If we are going by the show which was the only place I saw heavy clone troopers they used completely different larger weapons!

    I think your forgetting one crucial point here...

    This is a VIDEO GAME not an exact mirror image of the movies.


    ..............good point
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  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    But they better change it with their phase one armor!!! (just joking)
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  • MBSONIC wrote: »
    MBSONIC wrote: »
    like I said in my first comment no support or heavy class units were in the movies! If we are going by the show which was the only place I saw heavy clone troopers they used completely different larger weapons!

    I think your forgetting one crucial point here...

    This is a VIDEO GAME not an exact mirror image of the movies.


    ..............good point

    This thread makes me sad.
  • Pratore
    653 posts Member
    I agree I hope the assault class can use this weapon. It is an assault rifle not an LMG, I also dislike how the heavy class is shooting the DC-15 like a minigun from the hip.
  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    MBSONIC wrote: »
    MBSONIC wrote: »
    like I said in my first comment no support or heavy class units were in the movies! If we are going by the show which was the only place I saw heavy clone troopers they used completely different larger weapons!

    I think your forgetting one crucial point here...

    This is a VIDEO GAME not an exact mirror image of the movies.


    ..............good point

    This thread makes me sad.



    Not to be offensive or rude, but why?

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  • Alderan
    51 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    Darkaid wrote: »
    The Heavy Class is just fine with the DC-15.
    But not all fine with DC-15A. Its standard weapon for assault class, its not LMG.
    DICE must reduce its fire rate and increase damage of DC-15A shots and also change how troopers can hold this weapon, not as LMG only, but also as an assault rifle.
    Darkaid wrote: »
    It really does not matter. They're still Clone Troopers. Assault troopers don't need the DC-15 if the Heavy Class uses it.
    You from DICE? lol What a nonsense...

    I think your forgetting one crucial point here...

    This is a VIDEO GAME not an exact mirror image of the movies.

    So why they call it "Star Wars"? Maybe because all these things came from the Star Wars universe? And why they change all these things as they want and continue to call their product a "Star Wars" - maybe because they do not care for this universe anywayits?
  • Alderan
    51 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    - Fix Z-6 blaster bolt color to blue for clones. (And they will, i hope)
    - Give DC-15A to assault class. Its standard weapon for them, its not LMG.
    - Reduce fire rate and increase damage of DC-15A shots. Its not LMG!
    - Change how troopers can hold this weapon, not as LMG only, but also as an assault rifle when zooming (aiming).
    - Increase fire rate for DC-15s, its too slowly shoots, not canonically.
  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    Alderan wrote: »
    Darkaid wrote: »
    The Heavy Class is just fine with the DC-15.
    But not all fine with DC-15A. Its standard weapon for assault class, its not LMG.
    DICE must reduce its fire rate and increase damage of DC-15A shots and also change how troopers can hold this weapon, not as LMG only, but also as an assault rifle.
    Darkaid wrote: »
    It really does not matter. They're still Clone Troopers. Assault troopers don't need the DC-15 if the Heavy Class uses it.
    You from DICE? lol What a nonsense...

    I think your forgetting one crucial point here...

    This is a VIDEO GAME not an exact mirror image of the movies.

    So why they call it "Star Wars"? Maybe because all these things came from the Star Wars universe? And why they change all these things as they want and continue to call their product a "Star Wars" - maybe because they do not care for this universe anywayits?




    FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS!!!!
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  • Pratore
    653 posts Member
    MBSONIC wrote: »
    Alderan wrote: »
    Darkaid wrote: »
    The Heavy Class is just fine with the DC-15.
    But not all fine with DC-15A. Its standard weapon for assault class, its not LMG.
    DICE must reduce its fire rate and increase damage of DC-15A shots and also change how troopers can hold this weapon, not as LMG only, but also as an assault rifle.
    Darkaid wrote: »
    It really does not matter. They're still Clone Troopers. Assault troopers don't need the DC-15 if the Heavy Class uses it.
    You from DICE? lol What a nonsense...

    I think your forgetting one crucial point here...

    This is a VIDEO GAME not an exact mirror image of the movies.

    So why they call it "Star Wars"? Maybe because all these things came from the Star Wars universe? And why they change all these things as they want and continue to call their product a "Star Wars" - maybe because they do not care for this universe anywayits?




    FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS!!!!

    +1
  • SWymsa
    953 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    They should have a battlefield 4 setup where each class has it's specific weapon types but there is another pool of weapons that can be earned/unlocked (carbines in bf4) that all classes can use.

    Would like to see rarer weapons such as the Mandalorian Ripper and the like make an appearance as contraband weapon Hutt contracts.

    One thing that bugged me is what happened to all the billions of clone wars weapons in the galactic civil war era?

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  • There are more important things to discuss, that was a beta jeez
  • Pratore wrote: »
    I agree I hope the assault class can use this weapon. It is an assault rifle not an LMG, I also dislike how the heavy class is shooting the DC-15 like a minigun from the hip.
    Alderan wrote: »
    - Fix Z-6 blaster bolt color to blue for clones. (And they will, i hope)
    - Give DC-15A to assault class. Its standard weapon for them, its not LMG.
    - Reduce fire rate and increase damage of DC-15A shots. Its not LMG!
    - Change how troopers can hold this weapon, not as LMG only, but also as an assault rifle when zooming (aiming).
    - Increase fire rate for DC-15s, its too slowly shoots, not canonically.

  • ACRenegade88
    737 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    Yeah it's common to see regular assault class carry the DC 15 rifle ecspecially in long range battles but, they would swap out for the carbine for medium to close range encounters. No the DC 15 is not an lmg and shouldn't handle like one, it's more like a long range semi automatic assault rifle. I think it would be smart to give the assault class a standard issued rifle and the carbine because they used both. Hopefully they will make the DC 15 have more damage and make it semi auto
  • Darkaid
    9643 posts Member
    Alderan wrote: »
    Darkaid wrote: »
    The Heavy Class is just fine with the DC-15.
    But not all fine with DC-15A. Its standard weapon for assault class, its not LMG.
    DICE must reduce its fire rate and increase damage of DC-15A shots and also change how troopers can hold this weapon, not as LMG only, but also as an assault rifle.
    Darkaid wrote: »
    It really does not matter. They're still Clone Troopers. Assault troopers don't need the DC-15 if the Heavy Class uses it.
    You from DICE? lol What a nonsense...

    I think your forgetting one crucial point here...

    This is a VIDEO GAME not an exact mirror image of the movies.

    So why they call it "Star Wars"? Maybe because all these things came from the Star Wars universe? And why they change all these things as they want and continue to call their product a "Star Wars" - maybe because they do not care for this universe anywayits?

    Yes, I very clearly work at DICE. How did you know? :flushed:
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    Rest in peace, Carrie Fisher.
  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    There are more important things to discuss, that was a beta jeez

    Actually it's Pre-Alpha
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  • Elusive_DJ
    3141 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    I really don't have a problem with the heavy class wielding that particular blaster.
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  • Darkaid wrote: »
    1. What are "Support" troopers?
    2. Heavy Class uses DC-15.
    3. It doesn't need fixing.

    i hope there is quite a range of weapons to choose from this time around .
  • Alderan wrote: »
    Darkaid wrote: »
    The Heavy Class is just fine with the DC-15.
    But not all fine with DC-15A. Its standard weapon for assault class, its not LMG.
    DICE must reduce its fire rate and increase damage of DC-15A shots and also change how troopers can hold this weapon, not as LMG only, but also as an assault rifle.
    Darkaid wrote: »
    It really does not matter. They're still Clone Troopers. Assault troopers don't need the DC-15 if the Heavy Class uses it.
    You from DICE? lol What a nonsense...

    I think your forgetting one crucial point here...

    This is a VIDEO GAME not an exact mirror image of the movies.

    So why they call it "Star Wars"? Maybe because all these things came from the Star Wars universe? And why they change all these things as they want and continue to call their product a "Star Wars" - maybe because they do not care for this universe anywayits?

    @Alderan They call it "Star Wars" because that's what the game is based off of why else would they call it star wars? I can even assure you that the majority of the people that buy the game won't even care that the DC-15 will be a heavy weapon. Also why would such a miniscule change to the shows/movies make you believe they don't care about starwars? If they didn't care we wouldn't be getting prequels in the first place...
  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    edited June 2017
    I dunno, there are a lot of CRAZY PREQUEL FANS out there who go on total roasting sessions if the creators get anything wrong, with their only acceaption being the LEGO games. Either way, your opinion, his opinion, VERDICT: 2 or 3 people don't think it's a big problem, most people in the thread think it is. Let's move on there are other weapons in the game to talk about.
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  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    edited July 2017
    Ah. Never mind after looking at a Star Wars HQ video I figured out the heavys are holding it right when they zoom in. Wow, EA must really be paying attention to the forums. I would rather the DC-15 before the assault class but at least the way it's held is accurate.
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  • Pratore
    653 posts Member
    MBSONIC wrote: »
    Ah. Never mind after looking at a Star Wars HQ video I figured out the heavys are holding it right when they zoom in. Wow, EA must really be paying attention to the forums. I would rather the DC-15 before the assault class but at least the way it's held is accurate.

    If you watch Episode 2 and 3 of the prequels sometimes they aim the weapons from the hip and others aim down sights. There should be game mechanics for both. If you want to be more accurate
  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    Pratore wrote: »
    MBSONIC wrote: »
    Ah. Never mind after looking at a Star Wars HQ video I figured out the heavys are holding it right when they zoom in. Wow, EA must really be paying attention to the forums. I would rather the DC-15 before the assault class but at least the way it's held is accurate.

    If you watch Episode 2 and 3 of the prequels sometimes they aim the weapons from the hip and others aim down sights. There should be game mechanics for both. If you want to be more accurate


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  • They aren't going to be accurate whether you like it or not
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  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    edited August 2017
    They aren't going to be accurate whether you like it or not

    Uhhhhhhhh, what? Did the first battlefront EA not prove anything to you? Oh and also did u read my other post? They fixed the way the heavy held the DC15 making it pretty accurate if I do say myself, I mean the way he held it was my only complaint.
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  • ROMG4
    2893 posts Member
    If they bring back the EE4 I will riot
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  • ROMG4 wrote: »
    If they bring back the EE4 I will riot

    Why? The damage model will be different like every gun, so it won't resemble the broken weapon it is.
  • ROMG4 wrote: »
    If they bring back the EE4 I will riot

    If they do they better nerf it. Its waaay to good.
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  • Alex64
    7840 posts Member
    I just want the TL-50 with secondary shot broken as hell!
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  • ROMG4
    2893 posts Member
    DeFaLt17 wrote: »
    ROMG4 wrote: »
    If they bring back the EE4 I will riot

    If they do they better nerf it. Its waaay to good.

    The gun can straight up one shot you. In close medium range the Blaster can deal 74 damage with a single shot

    It's a completely broken and perfect weapon I mean it truly is remarkable somebody looked at that and approved it
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  • Alex64
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  • Alex64 wrote: »
    EE-4 It's like to take a cup of coffee while driving.
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  • Evazan127
    8105 posts Member
    Darkaid wrote: »
    1. What are "Support" troopers?
    2. Heavy Class uses DC-15.
    3. It doesn't need fixing.
    4. Things can come from the tv series as it is canon
  • Alex64 wrote: »
    EE-4 It's like to take a cup of coffee while driving.
    It's like taking a McDonald's cup of coffee driving

  • MBSONIC
    393 posts Member
    SalsaMan wrote: »
    Alex64 wrote: »
    EE-4 It's like to take a cup of coffee while driving.
    It's like taking a McDonald's cup of coffee driving



    Ah.
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  • Maybe the DC-15 could be specialist?
  • Maybe the DC-15 could be specialist?

    No B)
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  • Definitely not
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  • Maybe the DC-15 could be specialist?
    Would make the most sense IMO. Would give the specialist a shorter range option.
  • EvazanJr wrote: »
    Maybe the DC-15 could be specialist?
    Would make the most sense IMO. Would give the specialist a shorter range option.

    You have a point
  • If they wanted to do that they could just give them the officer class pistol
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  • Stinger pistol, CONFIRMED
  • What source did I gets that info from about the stinger?
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