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How is it fair/balanced that on Day 2 of wide release I play against user wit multiple purple cards?

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So frustrating & wrong!!
PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!

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  • It's probably people who bought the P2W... I mean "deluxe editions", which i believe came with a dozen epic (purple) quality cards.
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  • It's probably people who bought the P2W... I mean "deluxe editions", which i believe came with a dozen epic (purple) quality cards.
    Having had purchased the Elite Trooper Edition; Yes, there were a fair amount of nice cards, with some purples included. I know my Rey Hero has one - even though I've yet to get enough points to use her. This is a situation that exacerbates the Loot Crate problem. Couple that with a week of advance play vs. players who opted to buy the base game.

    With all that said, the fallout from the Loot Crate fiasco resulted in EA shutting down the Microtransactions on Day 1. Now all the new players get to GRIND? Not sure that was the best way to handle it, but all the furor and demands to remove microtransactions may have had unintended results.
  • Yup that extra 2m on Thermal detonator is why you died...or ....or Officer hit point buff having extra 4m radius, or heavy's shield having an additional 100 health, or specialist having 16 second cool down on trip mine, or Yoda attacking with his saber 15% longer..blah blah blah. The purples are not why you're dying, and that is coming from a person that is getting wrecked on this game.

    Just be patient and learn the maps etc...

  • lok
    986 posts Member
    Yup that extra 2m on Thermal detonator is why you died...or ....or Officer hit point buff having extra 4m radius, or heavy's shield having an additional 100 health, or specialist having 16 second cool down on trip mine, or Yoda attacking with his saber 15% longer..blah blah blah. The purples are not why you're dying, and that is coming from a person that is getting wrecked on this game.

    Just be patient and learn the maps etc...

    This......
  • you can still dominate without cards... cards are like a little bonus. most of it is part to the player is good and has learned the map. i can say with vanguard i still die using it, but thats cause i missed the shot and the pump to load another shot gets me killed etc
  • LoL some think it's fair....drink the koolaid much?
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • Yup that extra 2m on Thermal detonator is why you died...or ....or Officer hit point buff having extra 4m radius, or heavy's shield having an additional 100 health, or specialist having 16 second cool down on trip mine, or Yoda attacking with his saber 15% longer..blah blah blah. The purples are not why you're dying, and that is coming from a person that is getting wrecked on this game.

    Just be patient and learn the maps etc...

    I will buff your comment with my Improved battle command and S5 with reduced recoil mod and dual zoom earned while playing the game instead of ***** about it!
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  • zodemere
    105 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    MrNolz wrote: »
    Yup that extra 2m on Thermal detonator is why you died...or ....or Officer hit point buff having extra 4m radius, or heavy's shield having an additional 100 health, or specialist having 16 second cool down on trip mine, or Yoda attacking with his saber 15% longer..blah blah blah. The purples are not why you're dying, and that is coming from a person that is getting wrecked on this game.

    Just be patient and learn the maps etc...

    I will buff your comment with my Improved battle command and S5 with reduced recoil mod and dual zoom earned while playing the game instead of **** about it!

    SEE, these are the types that are literally snorting the koolaid, they so ignorant they don't even mix with water. I never said i needed noob tips from scrubs! IS IT BALANCED TO HAVE END LEVEL GEAR (MULTIPLE PURPLE CARDS PER CHARACTER) ON DAY 2 OF WORLD WIDE RELEASE?
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • AwesomeA9991
    234 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    Gotta reward ppl who pre-order elite edition or else no one would spend 80 bucks for it. Makes sense to me.
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  • It's about as fair for OP as it is for someone who buys the game a few months from now. /nonissue
  • Godling wrote: »
    It's about as fair for OP as it is for someone who buys the game a few months from now. /nonissue

    Did IQs suddenly drop while i was away? U can't compare a Day 1 purchase to a few months from now pal.
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • zodemere wrote: »
    Godling wrote: »
    It's about as fair for OP as it is for someone who buys the game a few months from now. /nonissue

    Did IQs suddenly drop while i was away? U can't compare a Day 1 purchase to a few months from now pal.

    Sure you can... you just don't want to because it flattens your argument. A new user in a few months will be far outnumbered by people with great star-cards... but here's little 'ol you complaining about just a few folks who have an "edge". Suck it up.
  • Godling wrote: »
    zodemere wrote: »
    Godling wrote: »
    It's about as fair for OP as it is for someone who buys the game a few months from now. /nonissue

    Did IQs suddenly drop while i was away? U can't compare a Day 1 purchase to a few months from now pal.

    Sure you can... you just don't want to because it flattens your argument. A new user in a few months will be far outnumbered by people with great star-cards... but here's little 'ol you complaining about just a few folks who have an "edge". Suck it up.

    Of course they're out numbered in PURPLE star cards cuz......it's been a few months scrub but ON DAY TWO?
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • Today is DAY TWO btw....
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • RedReVenge
    1215 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    No, they are fair. The difference between a level 3 Therm vs a level 4 Them is .5 meters.

    You just got wrecked by a player who ordered the deluxe edition and has been playing for at least 4-5 days.

    #L2Play
  • Dash
    11704 posts Member
    lok wrote: »
    Yup that extra 2m on Thermal detonator is why you died...or ....or Officer hit point buff having extra 4m radius, or heavy's shield having an additional 100 health, or specialist having 16 second cool down on trip mine, or Yoda attacking with his saber 15% longer..blah blah blah. The purples are not why you're dying, and that is coming from a person that is getting wrecked on this game.

    Just be patient and learn the maps etc...

    This......

    Triple this ^^
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  • MrNolz
    257 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    zodemere wrote: »
    MrNolz wrote: »
    Yup that extra 2m on Thermal detonator is why you died...or ....or Officer hit point buff having extra 4m radius, or heavy's shield having an additional 100 health, or specialist having 16 second cool down on trip mine, or Yoda attacking with his saber 15% longer..blah blah blah. The purples are not why you're dying, and that is coming from a person that is getting wrecked on this game.

    Just be patient and learn the maps etc...

    I will buff your comment with my Improved battle command and S5 with reduced recoil mod and dual zoom earned while playing the game instead of **** about it!

    SEE, these are the types that are literally snorting the koolaid, they so ignorant they don't even mix with water. I never said i needed noob tips from scrubs! IS IT BALANCED TO HAVE END LEVEL GEAR (MULTIPLE PURPLE CARDS PER CHARACTER) ON DAY 2 OF WORLD WIDE RELEASE?

    TF you on about? Kooliad LMAO!!! Grow the F Up! I'm not a scrub, I never said YOU needed noob tips (and who the F are you BTW!) was this comment directed at YOU!!! I never said anything about end level gear numbnuts.

    GIT GUD!! play the game!!! Sick of of ***** ***** schleppers!! Grow a pair!!

    (NO PURPLES WERE USED IN THIS COMMENT) and NO before you assume, I have no purple cards!!
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  • It's not fair, you're right. Then again, can any competition ever really be fair? Is it not unfair that one high school athlete can afford a personal trainer and another can't? Is it not unfair that one golfer plays with second hand clubs while another plays with top of the line equipment?

    Even before a lack of equipment or funds though a competition isn't actually fair. Yes, we try to make the rules of a game or sport not favor someone, but do you think anyone who played against Michel Jordan really thought it was fair that he had so much more talent than them? The worked their whole lives to be there as well.

    Add to that the fact that any game with progression is unfair. After all, a better player can unlock guns more quickly than you. Then, not only is he better, but also better equipped. Which in turn will only speed up his progression to the next teir of weapon or equipment, furthering the gap between the haves and has nots.

    Life just isn't fair, and they say you can't learn anything from a videogame.
  • It's probably people who bought the P2W... I mean "deluxe editions", which i believe came with a dozen epic (purple) quality cards.

    Thats where your wrong the Deluxe Edition isnt that much OP or P2W as you are saying. The problem is that some players had the chance to spend real money to buy cristals and buy a ton of cards and crafting points plus credits so they have lvl 20+ heroes and soldiers to chose from with zero effort, thats where your P2W is and thats where the problem is.

    Here is a little video watch it and you will see:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=wMCLc-_DIsQ
  • I havent see OP players you mention (with multiple Epic tier cards), at the highest I saw only with max 1 Epic card per player, and in 90% cases that 1 Epic was termal granade.
  • MrNolz
    257 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    GreenArrow wrote: »
    I havent see OP players you mention (with multiple Epic tier cards), at the highest I saw only with max 1 Epic card per player, and in 90% cases that 1 Epic was termal granade.

    I have seen a few with a 2 or 3 purple tier cards, mostly nades or air, but they still end up on the wrong end of my officers upgraded S5! most of the time!

    Schleppers go home!
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  • I play a card boosted PS4 deluxe version & a base standard edition on Xbox and to be honest I'm playing to the same level on both machines.

    Cards are really not that much of a boost............the only real boost is game time in my opinion.
  • HotaruTakanori
    121 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    It's probably people who bought the P2W... I mean "deluxe editions", which i believe came with a dozen epic (purple) quality cards.


    It's rare that I see the players with almost all epic cards. Then again, I don't really see where the big issue is with those who decided to get the Deluxe edition either. The epics given in that isn't all that drastic at all. I would know, I got the Deluxe earlier this week. Mainly because I'm impatient and I wanted to play the game and because special skins. Other than that, I don't notice much of a difference in gameplay with how I play. Only thing that is given as an extra is you get epic therm for Assault, epic shield for Heavy, epic heals for Officer and epic... idk the one for Specialist. Nothing has changed in my performance since the beta other than finally playing other maps besides Fondor and Theed. Also quite unsure where this "Deluxe edition is P2W" mentality is coming from. Anyone with multiple epics at this point more than likely bought crates to get the crafting parts to upgrade. I've been playing all week and haven't broke 20 yet for the overall rank.
  • Yup that extra 2m on Thermal detonator is why you died...or ....or Officer hit point buff having extra 4m radius, or heavy's shield having an additional 100 health, or specialist having 16 second cool down on trip mine, or Yoda attacking with his saber 15% longer..blah blah blah. The purples are not why you're dying, and that is coming from a person that is getting wrecked on this game.

    Just be patient and learn the maps etc...

    Correct .Only place we're success comes before work ( learning maps, standard fps workload etc ) is in the Dictionary.
  • So END GAME Content okay on DAY TWO as long as you rich
    It's not fair, you're right. Then again, can any competition ever really be fair? Is it not unfair that one high school athlete can afford a personal trainer and another can't? Is it not unfair that one golfer plays with second hand clubs while another plays with top of the line equipment?

    Even before a lack of equipment or funds though a competition isn't actually fair. Yes, we try to make the rules of a game or sport not favor someone, but do you think anyone who played against Michel Jordan really thought it was fair that he had so much more talent than them? The worked their whole lives to be there as well.

    Add to that the fact that any game with progression is unfair. After all, a better player can unlock guns more quickly than you. Then, not only is he better, but also better equipped. Which in turn will only speed up his progression to the next teir of weapon or equipment, furthering the gap between the haves and has nots.

    Life just isn't fair, and they say you can't learn anything from a videogame.

    Terrible analogy, in your example anyone who has the cash can buy better equipment at any time. In SWBF2 on DAY TWO i played vs players with END GAME CONTENT, on DAY TWO, yet I have grind for weeks if not months because there's no option for me or anyone else to pay for END GAME CONTENT. How is that balanced and fair?
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • ADF56 wrote: »
    It's probably people who bought the P2W... I mean "deluxe editions", which i believe came with a dozen epic (purple) quality cards.

    Thats where your wrong the Deluxe Edition isnt that much OP or P2W as you are saying. The problem is that some players had the chance to spend real money to buy cristals and buy a ton of cards and crafting points plus credits so they have lvl 20+ heroes and soldiers to chose from with zero effort, thats where your P2W is and thats where the problem is.

    Here is a little video watch it and you will see:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=wMCLc-_DIsQ

    this^
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • If youre warmed up and had plenty of practice you dont even need star cards. 80% of your kills come from your blaster anyways.
  • Godling wrote: »
    zodemere wrote: »
    Godling wrote: »
    It's about as fair for OP as it is for someone who buys the game a few months from now. /nonissue

    Did IQs suddenly drop while i was away? U can't compare a Day 1 purchase to a few months from now pal.

    Sure you can... you just don't want to because it flattens your argument. A new user in a few months will be far outnumbered by people with great star-cards... but here's little 'ol you complaining about just a few folks who have an "edge". Suck it up.

    The game wont survive that long if Dice doesnt fix the player matchmaking. So when the servers are empty how does Dice suck it up? Players get frustrated and just rage quit never to return.
  • It's super funny how the fanboys here won't answer a simple question, "Is it balanced and fair to play vs players with END GAME CONTENT ON DAY TWO of world wide release?" It'd be like playing DESTINY 2 on Day 2 vs players with Raid/Trials weapons and armor!
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • Dash
    11704 posts Member
    zodemere wrote: »
    It's super funny how the fanboys here won't answer a simple question, "Is it balanced and fair to play vs players with END GAME CONTENT ON DAY TWO of world wide release?" It'd be like playing DESTINY 2 on Day 2 vs players with Raid/Trials weapons and armor!

    I'll answer it . Is it fair that other people Pay for Origin Access to get trial access like this? Yes. Is it fair that People who were invited to Alpha and Beta to test the game know the game better? Yes, because they were there and did it for everyone else. Is it fair that people who have already been playing, pre-ordered, and Trial 10 hours time access are a bit ahead of you when you come in normal on launch day after YOU NOT pre-ordering, Not Beta Testing, Not alpha testing, Not having Origin access to have benefits like that? YES It's fair. You have avoided these points in your debate. If I have access to a play trial, I will play it, If I was in Alpha, Play it, Beta, Play it. Those who have had access PRE-ORDERED, Have ORIGIN ACCESS, Put time into the game. So the real question you're trying to ask is "Is it fair that people who had access to this game before hand because they Rightfully so had access to play before me? " Yes it's fair.
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  • Yup that extra 2m on Thermal detonator is why you died...or ....or Officer hit point buff having extra 4m radius, or heavy's shield having an additional 100 health, or specialist having 16 second cool down on trip mine, or Yoda attacking with his saber 15% longer..blah blah blah. The purples are not why you're dying, and that is coming from a person that is getting wrecked on this game.

    Just be patient and learn the maps etc...

    I agree as someone with a few purples I'm still getting wrecked by players on grey cards, the problem is more in I don't know he maps properly, lack of comms in games, and I really suck at FPS but I'm Star Wars Nerd so hey ho. The Purples really don't make that much difference.

    Take the cooldown for turret grey already starts you at 20 percent bonus purple is only 40, that is only 20 more than base. considering the cost not very good value.

    me personally I need to get good at FPS and a good start is learning the maps, also learn to control your cooldown, and the dodge roll is great
  • zodemere wrote: »
    It's super funny how the fanboys here won't answer a simple question, "Is it balanced and fair to play vs players with END GAME CONTENT ON DAY TWO of world wide release?" It'd be like playing DESTINY 2 on Day 2 vs players with Raid/Trials weapons and armor!

    I did answer your question. You just choose to ignore the answer because you didn't like it. The only contest that's ever actually fair is one of random chance. If you want fair, flip a coin. It's not much fun but it is completely fair.
  • Dash
    11704 posts Member
    zodemere wrote: »
    It's super funny how the fanboys here won't answer a simple question, "Is it balanced and fair to play vs players with END GAME CONTENT ON DAY TWO of world wide release?" It'd be like playing DESTINY 2 on Day 2 vs players with Raid/Trials weapons and armor!

    I did answer your question. You just choose to ignore the answer because you didn't like it. The only contest that's ever actually fair is one of random chance. If you want fair, flip a coin. It's not much fun but it is completely fair.

    I answered him too lol. He doesn't argue well when Logic is thrown his way.
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  • zodemere wrote: »
    It's super funny how the fanboys here won't answer a simple question, "Is it balanced and fair to play vs players with END GAME CONTENT ON DAY TWO of world wide release?" It'd be like playing DESTINY 2 on Day 2 vs players with Raid/Trials weapons and armor!

    Since none of you fanboy scrubs are man enough to answer it let me point of whom has answered my question......DICE/EA! When they took microtransactions offline they were saying it's NOT BALANCED OR FAIR. Whoever allowed this in the first place should be FIRED!!!
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • Dash
    11704 posts Member
    zodemere wrote: »
    zodemere wrote: »
    It's super funny how the fanboys here won't answer a simple question, "Is it balanced and fair to play vs players with END GAME CONTENT ON DAY TWO of world wide release?" It'd be like playing DESTINY 2 on Day 2 vs players with Raid/Trials weapons and armor!

    Since none of you fanboy scrubs are man enough to answer it let me point of whom has answered my question......DICE/EA! When they took microtransactions offline they were saying it's NOT BALANCED OR FAIR. Whoever allowed this in the first place should be FIRED!!!

    Keep ignoring everyone answering you and name calling members of this forum. Try to calm down and have a good day. But as for this current attitude and vulgarity of your comments, cut it out. We answered you, you're ignoring the answers, and spamming the comments with name calling and nonsense. Stop.
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  • He's a scrub.

    #gitgud
  • Missing u tank zode ?
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  • Missing u tank zode ?

    LoL absolutely! But good example, how do u all think these microtrans would have went over on say Battlefield or CoD?
    PAY2WIN = DARKSIDE & geez deez unpaid losers who live in their Mom's basement sure are SNOWFLAKES who can't handle critiques which explains why they can't get any & work for free!!!!!!!!!
  • Cards are not that big of a deal if ur any good at the game it wont matter and pluse u had the option to pre order the deluxe edition or the basic or not at all thats ur choice and i just cant get over the fact that so many people are crying about this game when it is 200% better then the first on they give use free dlc so u dont have to purchase anything after the game but now they have lost their extra income that all other games get it would suck but if i was them i would just stop making tge game and then we are all out if star wars games for another 8 years at the least
  • Look people are thinking to hard on this card crap put a squad in a lobby with me and my friend they have full upgraded gear of their choice and we get basics we will still mop them up i aint worried these are all people who put the campaign on super easy and still have trouble
  • Aeternum
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    edited November 2017
    I will repeat this for the millionth time.

    Cards don't provide a significant advantage and I still do very good with crap cards.

    What provides you an advantage is having good aim, good reflexes and good map awareness that you'll get for playing the game and improving your skills as a player.

    The only thing in this game that provides an "equipment" advantage (not mentioning some class skills being eventually overpowered) is using the best weapons and mods in the game for your class that you can obtain by achieving the kills milestones by playing the game.

    Though it may feel that having no cards may put you at a disadvantage, trust me, it's the weapons that change the game and/or having skill as a player.
  • Beaver
    1735 posts Member
    ADF56 wrote: »
    It's probably people who bought the P2W... I mean "deluxe editions", which i believe came with a dozen epic (purple) quality cards.

    Thats where your wrong the Deluxe Edition isnt that much OP or P2W as you are saying. The problem is that some players had the chance to spend real money to buy cristals and buy a ton of cards and crafting points plus credits so they have lvl 20+ heroes and soldiers to chose from with zero effort, thats where your P2W is and thats where the problem is.

    Here is a little video watch it and you will see:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=wMCLc-_DIsQ

    Even if some players bought the crystals and received a bunch of star cards, I highly doubt that many of them are level 20 yet. You cant craft Epic star cards till you hit lvl20.
  • Beaver
    1735 posts Member
    zodemere wrote: »
    It's super funny how the fanboys here won't answer a simple question, "Is it balanced and fair to play vs players with END GAME CONTENT ON DAY TWO of world wide release?" It'd be like playing DESTINY 2 on Day 2 vs players with Raid/Trials weapons and armor!

    All the whining, crying, *****, and moaning in the world will not change the fact that people received Epic star Cards with their deluxe editions. You have two choices, either put the big boy pants on and suck it up, or go play something else. Only two choices that I can think of.... If you can think of more, please let me know.
  • DarthJ
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    I get the feeling somehow this guy isnt happy
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  • RabidDutchman
    72 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    Yup that extra 2m on Thermal detonator is why you died...or ....or Officer hit point buff having extra 4m radius, or heavy's shield having an additional 100 health, or specialist having 16 second cool down on trip mine, or Yoda attacking with his saber 15% longer..blah blah blah. The purples are not why you're dying, and that is coming from a person that is getting wrecked on this game.

    Just be patient and learn the maps etc...
    you can still dominate without cards... cards are like a little bonus. most of it is part to the player is good and has learned the map. i can say with vanguard i still die using it, but thats cause i missed the shot and the pump to load another shot gets me killed etc
    RIFRIG wrote: »
    I play a card boosted PS4 deluxe version & a base standard edition on Xbox and to be honest I'm playing to the same level on both machines.

    Cards are really not that much of a boost............the only real boost is game time in my opinion.

    There is no "Golden Gun" star card that will automatically make you the best player on the map. I played to get the three star cards I use on Heavy class (the class I play exclusively) up to third tier, and unlock the first two attachments for my preferred weapon. Want to know how my performance has changed across three levels of star cards and a slowly improving rifle?
    It hasn't.

    Star cards make such a minute difference in overall gameplay that the game comes down to skill 99.99% of the time. Honestly, this system works better than in some more competitive games like CoD, where levelling up would give you dramatically better guns and gear that were a distinct advantage over everyone else. Battlefront 2 has found a decent way around that while still giving loadout customisation options. IMO the only real change the star card system needs is the removal of the RNG unlock/progression element.

    So if a player is constantly getting killed or just generally not playing well, it's probably just that they're not very familiar with the maps, modes, and meta yet (it is a new game, after all). Give it time, and they'll do just fine.
  • So you're telling me that if two perfectly identical players were to meet 1v1 in a scenario, where one player has maxed out cards and the other player has absolutely no cards, that both have equal chances of killing the other player?

    Statistically speaking that would be a no, because one person has a direct statistical advantage to various abilities/damage they can do, while the other player has nothing augmenting their character at all. This effect is even more blatant in starfighter matches when you can directly increase the power and life of your ship.

    Fact of the matter is that early access players, and players who bought the deluxe version do have a measurable advantage over those who did not purchase and participate in the early access events. The game has/had mobile freemium services plastered all over it where if you want to get ahead and directly increase your power faster you better fork over the cash. Players who do not do this will need to grind and deal with the players who opted to pay even more. Bottom line, these are bad practices in AAA multiplayer shooters and balancing for this type of thing will be highly unlikely.
  • Beaver
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    So you're telling me that if two perfectly identical players were to meet 1v1 in a scenario, where one player has maxed out cards and the other player has absolutely no cards, that both have equal chances of killing the other player?

    Statistically speaking that would be a no, because one person has a direct statistical advantage to various abilities/damage they can do, while the other player has nothing augmenting their character at all. This effect is even more blatant in starfighter matches when you can directly increase the power and life of your ship.

    Fact of the matter is that early access players, and players who bought the deluxe version do have a measurable advantage over those who did not purchase and participate in the early access events. The game has/had mobile freemium services plastered all over it where if you want to get ahead and directly increase your power faster you better fork over the cash. Players who do not do this will need to grind and deal with the players who opted to pay even more. Bottom line, these are bad practices in AAA multiplayer shooters and balancing for this type of thing will be highly unlikely.

    I hate to tell you, but the player who is more self aware of his/her surroundings, and has the better aim will win 8 out of 10 times. I don't care who has the best Star Card hand.
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    The problem isn't with the cards

    It's that they have a whole week of additional gameplay
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  • Beaver wrote: »
    So you're telling me that if two perfectly identical players were to meet 1v1 in a scenario, where one player has maxed out cards and the other player has absolutely no cards, that both have equal chances of killing the other player?

    Statistically speaking that would be a no, because one person has a direct statistical advantage to various abilities/damage they can do, while the other player has nothing augmenting their character at all. This effect is even more blatant in starfighter matches when you can directly increase the power and life of your ship.

    Fact of the matter is that early access players, and players who bought the deluxe version do have a measurable advantage over those who did not purchase and participate in the early access events. The game has/had mobile freemium services plastered all over it where if you want to get ahead and directly increase your power faster you better fork over the cash. Players who do not do this will need to grind and deal with the players who opted to pay even more. Bottom line, these are bad practices in AAA multiplayer shooters and balancing for this type of thing will be highly unlikely.

    I hate to tell you, but the player who is more self aware of his/her surroundings, and has the better aim will win 8 out of 10 times. I don't care who has the best Star Card hand.

    Which is why I said in a situation where both players are equal in all respects. Given the fact that skill ranges for individual players are dynamic this issue is only exacerbated by skill cards.
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