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  • Hahahaha pretty much yeah!

    Add me: FoxDie491 :D . Also, do you thing you could start a forum only official discord channel? That would be awesome :P
  • XXXO77O4906
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    edited November 2017
    Official Discord channel would need approving, probably additional staff and interest within the team. We can see about that in the future tbh but not now atm.

    Good idea but would need a lot of management etc.
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  • Best thread ever!

    As for the question there can be only one answer


    Yes first order all the way!
  • Foxdie491
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    edited November 2017
    Official Discord channel would need approving, probably additional staff and interest within the team. We can see about that in the future tbh but not now atm.

    Good idea but would need a lot of management etc.

    It would be great if guys could pull this off! Don't know if EA have done this for other games, but at least for me It would be something I've never seen a publisher do before. Please tell us if they consider it in the future :D

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    We do have this I guess: https://discord.gg/Sdf4DSg its more for multi games then just SWBF but we do have a SWBF section I guess.
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  • JackTHorn
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    edited November 2017
    Space N-a-z-i-s? No thanks.

    What... is a "pubbie"?

    (edit: I forgot that **** gets beeped out. Ah, the morality of the Fireman...)
  • d100Productions
    1314 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    JackTHorn wrote: »
    Space N-a-z-i-s? No thanks.

    What... is a "pubbie"?

    (edit: I forgot that **** gets beeped out. Ah, the morality of the Fireman...)

    Hmmph. You space commie scum.
  • For the First Order!!
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  • @Foxdie491

    We do have this I guess: https://discord.gg/Sdf4DSg its more for multi games then just SWBF but we do have a SWBF section I guess.

    Neat :smile: But still, if you guys can manage a Forum only channel it would be even better :P . We kind of know each other around here.

    But thanks none the less, I'll give it a try.
  • lok
    973 posts Member
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  • I hate both factions, but if I have to chose I'd side with the Resistance. I'm sorry, but if you lose your shotgun Death Star to an X-Wing you deserve to be destroyed.
    "In my book, experience outranks everything."
  • Ezio
    974 posts Member
    The Dark Side has never truly won yet, and their "heroes" keep dying or defecting. Though we may be outnumbered, the Resistance will continue to resist.

    We are the spark that will light the fire, that will burn the First Order down.
  • First order! All the way!!
  • d100Productions
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    edited November 2017
    Ezio wrote: »
    The Dark Side has never truly won yet, and their "heroes" keep dying or defecting. Though we may be outnumbered, the Resistance will continue to resist.

    We are the spark that will light the fire, that will burn the First Order down.

    LOL. Well, I hope you can strike up another spark once you get snuffed out in challenges. What fun would it be for us if it was easy for us to win?
  • I'll stick to my finger of doom.

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  • Darkside of the force is best
  • I'd like to think I have principles but... the winning faction gets rewards, and I can already tell that a lot of people are gonna pick the dark side, so I'm just gonna have to side with the likely winning side, that is, the First Order. I'm a practical man.
  • tommytom64 wrote: »
    I'd like to think I have principles but... the winning faction gets rewards, and I can already tell that a lot of people are gonna pick the dark side, so I'm just gonna have to side with the likely winning side, that is, the First Order. I'm a practical man.

    In most games I've ever played that had something like this, this is how it turned out: lots of hardcore players turn out for the "evil" side and put in a ton of effort and do really well. However, the "good" side will usually win due to the sheer numbers of players who will choose it by default, even though most of them will just coast.

    Just my experience.
  • Breaking news, EA just announced the rewards for the winning team.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=xfr64zoBTAQ
    Don't watch the video, it's just a joke to go along with all the memes in this thread. ;) Somebody should actually make a poll to see which faction is more popular tho.



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  • Resistance for sure, I can't wait to throw thermal detonators left and right while slaying fools with my cooling cell as Finn :heart:
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  • I would play FO every round. I only play as a rebel/resistance because I am obliged =(
  • bfloo
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    Ezio wrote: »
    The Dark Side has never truly won yet, and their "heroes" keep dying or defecting. Though we may be outnumbered, the Resistance will continue to resist.

    We are the spark that will light the fire, that will burn the First Order down.

    That is because they didn't just leave Veers and OOM-9 in charge of the military.
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  • Yeah. Phasma is a more interesting prospect than finn
  • OOM19
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    bfloo wrote: »
    Ezio wrote: »
    The Dark Side has never truly won yet, and their "heroes" keep dying or defecting. Though we may be outnumbered, the Resistance will continue to resist.

    We are the spark that will light the fire, that will burn the First Order down.

    That is because they didn't just leave Veers and OOM-9 in charge of the military.

    If I had any skill in Writing I would totally write a fan fiction where Veers is made Supreme Commander of all Imperial Forces and OOM-9 is reactivated and together they destroy every traitor with the power of Evil Bros
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  • Since there’s no side for pirates/smugglers I’ll be going dark side
  • Ezio wrote: »
    tommytom64 wrote: »
    I'd like to think I have principles but... the winning faction gets rewards, and I can already tell that a lot of people are gonna pick the dark side, so I'm just gonna have to side with the likely winning side, that is, the First Order. I'm a practical man.

    In most games I've ever played that had something like this, this is how it turned out: lots of hardcore players turn out for the "evil" side and put in a ton of effort and do really well. However, the "good" side will usually win due to the sheer numbers of players who will choose it by default, even though most of them will just coast.

    Just my experience.

    Yeah, I've honestly considered that. My loyalty is not firmly in place just yet. I wonder who will have cooler abilities, Finn or Phasma?
  • F03hammer
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    tommytom64 wrote: »
    Ezio wrote: »
    tommytom64 wrote: »
    I'd like to think I have principles but... the winning faction gets rewards, and I can already tell that a lot of people are gonna pick the dark side, so I'm just gonna have to side with the likely winning side, that is, the First Order. I'm a practical man.

    In most games I've ever played that had something like this, this is how it turned out: lots of hardcore players turn out for the "evil" side and put in a ton of effort and do really well. However, the "good" side will usually win due to the sheer numbers of players who will choose it by default, even though most of them will just coast.

    Just my experience.

    Yeah, I've honestly considered that. My loyalty is not firmly in place just yet. I wonder who will have cooler abilities, Finn or Phasma?

    Finn will have the cooler stuff.
    Phasma will be cried over for nerfs within the first hour of release.
    She's Brienne of Tarth , after all.
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  • tommytom64 wrote: »
    Ezio wrote: »
    tommytom64 wrote: »
    I'd like to think I have principles but... the winning faction gets rewards, and I can already tell that a lot of people are gonna pick the dark side, so I'm just gonna have to side with the likely winning side, that is, the First Order. I'm a practical man.

    In most games I've ever played that had something like this, this is how it turned out: lots of hardcore players turn out for the "evil" side and put in a ton of effort and do really well. However, the "good" side will usually win due to the sheer numbers of players who will choose it by default, even though most of them will just coast.

    Just my experience.

    I wonder who will have cooler abilities, Finn or Phasma?

    I don't think either will be particularly interesting but I'd give the edge to Phasma

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  • Vilpire
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    edited November 2017
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    Always dark side.
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  • Dark side, because unlimited power.
  • SAmulticore
    3322 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    Ezio wrote: »
    tommytom64 wrote: »
    I'd like to think I have principles but... the winning faction gets rewards, and I can already tell that a lot of people are gonna pick the dark side, so I'm just gonna have to side with the likely winning side, that is, the First Order. I'm a practical man.

    In most games I've ever played that had something like this, this is how it turned out: lots of hardcore players turn out for the "evil" side and put in a ton of effort and do really well. However, the "good" side will usually win due to the sheer numbers of players who will choose it by default, even though most of them will just coast.

    Just my experience.

    I’m sure it’ll be an average score. You can’t account for the numbers of players that’ll choose dark or light so I suspect they’ll just take the mean (0.68453 achievements per Dark player vs 0.67934 achievements per Light player = Dark wins). That way the most skilled group wins regardless of numbers.
  • iGodLike45
    63 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    rollind24 wrote: »
    Blazur wrote: »
    I'm trying to think about which side has more of a practical chance of winning overall.

    Resistance
    • Takadona strike they get to defend the castle from an escort mission. FO has a difficult time getting the parcel to its destination.
    • On GA Starkiller Base it's easy to control the skies and nobody wants to go down the stairs on the 2nd phase. Advantage: resistance.

    First Order
    • GA Takodana, it's easier to defend the first capture point than it is to assault it. Rarely do I see this go beyond the first phase as the resistance. I still think the Resistance can more easily gain air superiority, but seldom do they help out with the ground battle so this could work against their goals.
    • Starkiller Base on strike is very easy to fortify. Advantage: FO.
    • Evil heroes are just far superior, and much cooler.
    • In most of the times I play as FO on the SA map the game quickly ends before the first phase completes.

    Think I may have to side with Snoke on this one.

    Rebellions are built on hope sir..

    Bravo sir, Bravo :smile: Rebeillions are built on hope :smile:

  • bfloo
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    I might want to rethink this, the First Order has the most inept military leadership I've ever seen.
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  • and there's always the possibility that the devs will rig the campaign for the rebels to win no matter what happens.
    Many of the arguments we have about this game would not exist if this was a single player focused game like it should have been since day 1.
  • acc751 wrote: »
    and there's always the possibility that the devs will rig the campaign for the rebels to win no matter what happens.

    That will not be happening.
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  • acc751 wrote: »
    and there's always the possibility that the devs will rig the campaign for the rebels to win no matter what happens.

    That will not be happening.

    Yeah, but it won't stop people from claiming it did if they lose. People swore that the only reason their team lost when For Honor had a similar idea is that the devs rigged it. Even though there was no reason they would, and no evidence it happened tons of players from the losing teams swore it was happening.
  • To all my fellow Brothers in the FO.

    WE SHALL BURN AWAY THIS LOWLY RESISTANCE.

    ALL SHALL BOW TO THE FIRST ORDER.
  • acc751 wrote: »
    and there's always the possibility that the devs will rig the campaign for the rebels to win no matter what happens.

    That will not be happening.

    Thanks for clearing this up, I was pretty worried about it.
    Many of the arguments we have about this game would not exist if this was a single player focused game like it should have been since day 1.
  • Blazur
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    That will not be happening.

    So the competition is to see which side completes the most challenges. But will we be contributing progress towards challenges for the opposing team while playing as them? Or is the system designed not to track that progress intelligently?
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  • Vilpire
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    edited November 2017
    Blazur wrote: »
    That will not be happening.

    So the competition is to see which side completes the most challenges. But will we be contributing progress towards challenges for the opposing team while playing as them? Or is the system designed not to track that progress intelligently?

    I'm 99% certain you will always contribute to your chosen side, no matter as which team you play. It was the same in For Honor, you chose a faction but still got to play the others...all your accomplishments counted towards the chosen faction though, not the played one.
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  • Ezio
    974 posts Member
    Ezio wrote: »
    tommytom64 wrote: »
    I'd like to think I have principles but... the winning faction gets rewards, and I can already tell that a lot of people are gonna pick the dark side, so I'm just gonna have to side with the likely winning side, that is, the First Order. I'm a practical man.

    In most games I've ever played that had something like this, this is how it turned out: lots of hardcore players turn out for the "evil" side and put in a ton of effort and do really well. However, the "good" side will usually win due to the sheer numbers of players who will choose it by default, even though most of them will just coast.

    Just my experience.

    I’m sure it’ll be an average score. You can’t account for the numbers of players that’ll choose dark or light so I suspect they’ll just take the mean (0.68453 achievements per Dark player vs 0.67934 achievements per Light player = Dark wins). That way the most skilled group wins regardless of numbers.

    That looks good on paper, but I don't think that will happen. If they did, I think that will put light side at a HUGE disadvantage. With so many people likely to choose "good" by default, there will be lots of players who join that side and then barely play again if at all. I see that all the time, I've even done it during particularly busy times.

    In all honesty, I think the fairest way to count it up is through direct contribution to a total score.
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  • Ezio wrote: »
    Ezio wrote: »
    tommytom64 wrote: »
    I'd like to think I have principles but... the winning faction gets rewards, and I can already tell that a lot of people are gonna pick the dark side, so I'm just gonna have to side with the likely winning side, that is, the First Order. I'm a practical man.

    In most games I've ever played that had something like this, this is how it turned out: lots of hardcore players turn out for the "evil" side and put in a ton of effort and do really well. However, the "good" side will usually win due to the sheer numbers of players who will choose it by default, even though most of them will just coast.

    Just my experience.

    I’m sure it’ll be an average score. You can’t account for the numbers of players that’ll choose dark or light so I suspect they’ll just take the mean (0.68453 achievements per Dark player vs 0.67934 achievements per Light player = Dark wins). That way the most skilled group wins regardless of numbers.

    That looks good on paper, but I don't think that will happen. If they did, I think that will put light side at a HUGE disadvantage. With so many people likely to choose "good" by default, there will be lots of players who join that side and then barely play again if at all. I see that all the time, I've even done it during particularly busy times.

    In all honesty, I think the fairest way to count it up is through direct contribution to a total score.

    It will probably be average based as opposed to just total overall score. That's the only way it could possibly work, otherwise it's just who has more people. If they take th average scores then a smaller group of guys putting in work overcomes a large group being lazy and just counting on numbers.

    I can't imagine you'll earn points for the opposite side by playing games, if that was the case it seems like people would just quit anytime they got the wrong team.
  • FettForMVP
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    edited November 2017
    What I'm trying to understand, though, is what will happen with matchmaking?

    Let's say I pick Resistance. When the second "half" of Galactic Assault comes up on Starkiller Base, for example, wouldn't I be incentivized to let the Resistance win when it's my turn as FO?
  • Ezio
    974 posts Member
    Ezio wrote: »
    Ezio wrote: »
    tommytom64 wrote: »
    I'd like to think I have principles but... the winning faction gets rewards, and I can already tell that a lot of people are gonna pick the dark side, so I'm just gonna have to side with the likely winning side, that is, the First Order. I'm a practical man.

    In most games I've ever played that had something like this, this is how it turned out: lots of hardcore players turn out for the "evil" side and put in a ton of effort and do really well. However, the "good" side will usually win due to the sheer numbers of players who will choose it by default, even though most of them will just coast.

    Just my experience.

    I’m sure it’ll be an average score. You can’t account for the numbers of players that’ll choose dark or light so I suspect they’ll just take the mean (0.68453 achievements per Dark player vs 0.67934 achievements per Light player = Dark wins). That way the most skilled group wins regardless of numbers.

    That looks good on paper, but I don't think that will happen. If they did, I think that will put light side at a HUGE disadvantage. With so many people likely to choose "good" by default, there will be lots of players who join that side and then barely play again if at all. I see that all the time, I've even done it during particularly busy times.

    In all honesty, I think the fairest way to count it up is through direct contribution to a total score.

    It will probably be average based as opposed to just total overall score. That's the only way it could possibly work, otherwise it's just who has more people. If they take th average scores then a smaller group of guys putting in work overcomes a large group being lazy and just counting on numbers.

    I can't imagine you'll earn points for the opposite side by playing games, if that was the case it seems like people would just quit anytime they got the wrong team.

    There's one major flaw in that. First, let's say that only 100 people join the FO and 500 join the Resistance.
    Let's say that the entire FO goes ham, and all 100 people that join it get 100% on challenges. Now let's say that 100 people on the Resistance also give it their all and 100% the challenges. Unfortunately, though, 100 of the Resistance never even played, and the remaining 300 were casuals that only got about 50% completion.
    In that scenario, is it fair that the FO wins?
  • Ezio
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    There's one major flaw in that. FIrst, let's say that 100 people join the FO and 500 join the Resistance.
    Now let's say that the FO goes ham and all 100 get 100% on the challenges. Let's also say that 100 players on the Resistance give it their all and get 100% as well. However, 100 people on the Resistance just joined and quit, and the other 300 are just casuals who average around 50% completion. Even though the exact same number of skilled players got the same score on both teams, the Resistance will be dragged down by the casuals.
    Is that a fair way to score the game?
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  • Ezio wrote: »
    There's one major flaw in that. FIrst, let's say that 100 people join the FO and 500 join the Resistance.
    Now let's say that the FO goes ham and all 100 get 100% on the challenges. Let's also say that 100 players on the Resistance give it their all and get 100% as well. However, 100 people on the Resistance just joined and quit, and the other 300 are just casuals who average around 50% completion. Even though the exact same number of skilled players got the same score on both teams, the Resistance will be dragged down by the casuals.
    Is that a fair way to score the game?

    I believe it is yeah, that’s just how averages work.

    I’m not saying it’s inarguably the most perfect system for every individual, but it’s the fairest. Your suggestion relies mostly on which side has the numerical advantage, and we might as well just announce the winner on day one when it becomes clear that one side is over-subscribed.
  • valeri0706
    627 posts Member
    edited November 2017
    Yeah, i think i will pick Dark Side.

    Not only because of the cooler models, but because currently Villains stomp over Heroes in HvV and that might play a role for the fraction's win chances.
  • These so-called "Resistance" and "First Order" movements are all traitors against the true Empire. Let them fight and bleed for their worthless "causes". Then, weakened, they shall crumble as we strike back. We, the remnants of the glorious Empire, shall bring back peace, justice and order to the galaxy.
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