[Faction Thread] First Order vs Resistance

Palpa · December 6, 2017 6:26AM

Hey so I have a roommate who is with the rebel scum and Im in the first order.
In The Last Jedi challenges he has get 50 kills with every trooper class and Play 5 matches of Blast.
While I only have the 50 kills with each trooper.
Am i the only one not getting this challenge? Are we getting separate challenges in the near future?

Black0utz · December 6, 2017 7:57AM

CivilianAtom wrote: »

I'd rather play as Finn, but FO will be more powerful, mainly because of the number of players choosing it.

I guess it'll be about the skill of the players, not the number of player choosing one side...

If 1000 join TO while only 50 join the resistance it wouldn't be fair for them...okay I personally don't need fairness, I'm TO, we win anyway, but I guess they'll make a win by average not counting points

MONEYPYR0 · December 6, 2017 8:17AM

Black0utz wrote: »

CivilianAtom wrote: »

I'd rather play as Finn, but FO will be more powerful, mainly because of the number of players choosing it.

I guess it'll be about the skill of the players, not the number of player choosing one side...

If 1000 join TO while only 50 join the resistance it wouldn't be fair for them...okay I personally don't need fairness, I'm TO, we win anyway, but I guess they'll make a win by average not counting points

I think the winner is determined by which faction completes more challenges

Black0utz · December 6, 2017 8:23AM

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

I think the winner is determined by which faction completes more challenges

Lets stay with my example of 1000 TO/50 restistance.

If there are like 10 challenges at all and 1000 TO do 1 challenge each while all the 50 restistance player do all 10 they loose because nobody chosed restistance? xD

I hope they do it with average challenge per player.

MONEYPYR0 · December 6, 2017 8:37AM

Black0utz wrote: »

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

I think the winner is determined by which faction completes more challenges

Lets stay with my example of 1000 TO/50 restistance.

If there are like 10 challenges at all and 1000 TO do 1 challenge each while all the 50 restistance player do all 10 they loose because nobody chosed restistance? xD

I hope they do it with average challenge per player.

With the numbers of 1000 to 50, even if all the FO only did one challenge, that would be 100, and the Resistance would only have 5, lol. I think it'll be based purely on nunbers, it just depends on which side people want to join. Obviously the side with the more people will have an advantage. Its like those faction wars from MKX (if those are even still a thing). Nearly everyone joined the Lin Kuei, and literally no one was Special Forces. People are just gonna join the cooler sides, lol

Mooncircle · December 6, 2017 8:56AM

Resistance !

Black0utz · December 6, 2017 9:05AM

@MONEYPYR0 well thats the question.

If they do it by numbers, I guess many will join FO and will outrun the resistance (Lol, just like it always was)
If they do it by average per player it would be independent from the numbers of players joined.
It would be all about the skill.

In my opinion much bettter than just counting numbers. Like you said, it would be like MKX or other games (Final Fantasy XIV had a PvP with 3 fractions and one of them were like 80% of all player until they fixed it with an fraction independent mode).

We'll see.

souvArine · December 6, 2017 9:22AM

First Order.

The Dark Side is quicker, easier, more seductive... And I'm a lecherous, lazy *astard.

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PurpleFloyd · December 6, 2017 1:28PM

I like the idea of new challenges, but it was a bit odd when I logged on, chose Resistance, and the first online game I play I'm an the First Order ... do I just lay down and die now then? ...

MONEYPYR0 · December 6, 2017 1:40PM

PurpleFloyd wrote: »

I like the idea of new challenges, but it was a bit odd when I logged on, chose Resistance, and the first online game I play I'm an the First Order ... do I just lay down and die now then? ...

You choose a faction to earn rewards for, not to specifically play as. Besides, then you'd be playing defense 2/3rds of sequel era matches

Stalemate · December 6, 2017 2:20PM

PurpleFloyd wrote: »

I like the idea of new challenges, but it was a bit odd when I logged on, chose Resistance, and the first online game I play I'm an the First Order ... do I just lay down and die now then? ...

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.

Hanzo · December 6, 2017 2:57PM

First Order all the way.

Because good is dumb.

forcereconusmc96 · December 6, 2017 3:10PM

I noticed that everyone I know is choosing the First Order. For that reason, I chose The Rebellion. I do have one concern. What if during the Last Jedi game play, the teams are lopsided? I have been in Galactic Assault matches where there are 20 players on the opposition and 12 players on my team. Sometimes we actually won. If there is an overwhelming unfair advantage to First Order, what will EA, DICE do to make it fair? I look forward the being the underdog. It will make the rewards of the challenge much sweeter.

Hanzo · December 6, 2017 3:14PM

I think people are confusing the parameters of the competition. It's just which side completes the most challenges. Your kills towards that challenge count no matter which side you are playing on.

Now if this was a competition counting the most kills by the side you are aligned with, then I could see it affecting gameplay.

forcereconusmc96 · December 6, 2017 4:45PM

Hanzo wrote: »

I think people are confusing the parameters of the competition. It's just which side completes the most challenges. Your kills towards that challenge count no matter which side you are playing on.

Now if this was a competition counting the most kills by the side you are aligned with, then I could see it affecting gameplay.

I think you misunderstand the point. 20 vs 12 is not a fair fight. It has nothing to do with K/D ratio for an individual player. I also believe the objectives ultimately make the win/loss. The K/D can be better on the losing side if the don't complete the objectives. Just my take on it.

Hanzo · December 6, 2017 4:48PM

forcereconusmc96 wrote: »

Hanzo wrote: »

I think people are confusing the parameters of the competition. It's just which side completes the most challenges. Your kills towards that challenge count no matter which side you are playing on.

Now if this was a competition counting the most kills by the side you are aligned with, then I could see it affecting gameplay.

I think you misunderstand the point. 20 vs 12 is not a fair fight. It has nothing to do with K/D ratio for an individual player. I also believe the objectives ultimately make the win/loss. The K/D can be better on the losing side if the don't complete the objectives. Just my take on it.

My bad, I wasn't responding to you. But since we're here. Mismatches happen in all multiplayer games, there isn't much you can do about it besides implement a system to punish quitters.

Skywacker · December 6, 2017 7:54PM

I can't get beyond the political insanity of female action hero's therefore I will side with Finn.

Hanzo · December 6, 2017 8:22PM

What political insanity? What do you have against female characters in Star Wars? She's not the first. I believe her contributions were overblown given her minimal screen time, but we've yet to see her in TLJ so who knows what she'll do.

Phantom_A320 · December 6, 2017 9:16PM

Black0utz wrote: »

@MONEYPYR0 well thats the question.

If they do it by numbers, I guess many will join FO and will outrun the resistance (Lol, just like it always was)
If they do it by average per player it would be independent from the numbers of players joined.
It would be all about the skill.

In my opinion much bettter than just counting numbers. Like you said, it would be like MKX or other games (Final Fantasy XIV had a PvP with 3 fractions and one of them were like 80% of all player until they fixed it with an fraction independent mode).

We'll see.

Only fair way I can think is by participation percentage. That way regardless of how many players are on a specific side, if the percentage of challenges complete are higher in one faction then they win.

Vaylo_Ren44 · December 6, 2017 11:09PM

rollind24 wrote: »

Blazur wrote: »

I'm trying to think about which side has more of a practical chance of winning overall.

Resistance
Takadona strike they get to defend the castle from an escort mission. FO has a difficult time getting the parcel to its destination.

On GA Starkiller Base it's easy to control the skies and nobody wants to go down the stairs on the 2nd phase. Advantage: resistance.

First Order
GA Takodana, it's easier to defend the first capture point than it is to assault it. Rarely do I see this go beyond the first phase as the resistance. I still think the Resistance can more easily gain air superiority, but seldom do they help out with the ground battle so this could work against their goals.

Starkiller Base on strike is very easy to fortify. Advantage: FO.

Evil heroes are just far superior, and much cooler.

In most of the times I play as FO on the SA map the game quickly ends before the first phase completes.

Think I may have to side with Snoke on this one.

Rebellions are built on hope sir..

You have no Rebellion to build then, because you have none. Your "new hope" came and went, leaving your pathetic Resistance floundering while the brain-dead "New Republic" got annihilated. The Rebels before you were actually a challenge, unlike you. Our pure, untainted, factory made technology will sweep away your second hand amalgamations. Hail to the First Order! Hail to the Supreme Leader!

F03hammer · December 7, 2017 12:13AM

FO drives your Liuv boats better:

Darth_Chicken · December 7, 2017 2:16AM

First Order.

Because.

Scout1998 · December 7, 2017 6:23AM

For the Resistance.

Black0utz · December 7, 2017 6:37AM

forcereconusmc96 wrote: »

I noticed that everyone I know is choosing the First Order. For that reason, I chose The Rebellion.

I always love this argument hahaha
When you can choose between a good steak and cyanide you choose cyanide because nobody else do, right? xD
Oh man, love guys like you, but because of the steak/cyanide thing, there aren't many of you left

Inflatable · December 7, 2017 7:57AM

If they do it by average per player it would be independent from the numbers of players joined.
It would be all about the skill.

I hope they do it by average, because that would be most fair..

It would still not be all about skill though because from what I've seen so far all these challenges ask of you is to play for a certain amount of time in a certain gamemode and with a certain class (smart way to force people to try all the content in the game).. Of course a more skilled player would finish challenges like get x amount of kills faster, but if a lower skilled player puts in enough time he or she will finish them too eventually.. 42 days is plenty of time to get 50 kills with each class, even if you suck..

Crapachinosan · December 7, 2017 9:19AM

When I hear the word "resistance" these days I have got to go with First Order!

P.S. What's the difference anyway?

Upset_Reset · December 7, 2017 10:08AM

Upset_Reset · December 7, 2017 10:09AM

HIGH GROUND!!!!

Upset_Reset · December 7, 2017 10:12AM

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Foxdie491 · December 7, 2017 4:32PM

Skywacker wrote: »

I can't get beyond the political insanity of female action hero's therefore I will side with Finn.

You are one of those people that Hate Ripley and Sarah Connor?

Stalemate · December 7, 2017 5:02PM

Thats silly, Gwendoline Christie is awesome.

PhDChaos · December 7, 2017 7:40PM

The leadership of the First Order disgusts me. They are extremists reborn from the ashes of an Empire built upon deceit, hate, and inequality. Their former Empire only existed to protect the Emperor, a Sith Lord, who manipulates a galaxy into murdering and subduing one another. What possible peace could come from a more extreme expression of this type of rule? Down with the First Order! Peace does not exist without freedom, and freedom does not exist in the Dark Side. The First Order is enslaved by their passions and, therefore, in capable of providing anything meaningful except for themselves.

Foxdie491 · December 7, 2017 9:16PM

PhDChaos wrote: »

The leadership of the First Order disgusts me. They are extremists reborn from the ashes of an Empire built upon deceit, hate, and inequality. Their former Empire only existed to protect the Emperor, a Sith Lord, who manipulates a galaxy into murdering and subduing one another. What possible peace could come from a more extreme expression of this type of rule? Down with the First Order! Peace does not exist without freedom, and freedom does not exist in the Dark Side. The First Order is enslaved by their passions and, therefore, in capable of providing anything meaningful except for themselves.

sounds about right...

RuralDevelopment · December 7, 2017 9:17PM

Resistance because I basically spent all my crafting parts on upgrading chewie for HvV. Chewie is fun.

Cad_Bane · December 7, 2017 9:29PM

For the resistance!
The FO may have far superior weapons, armor, starfighters, equipment, technology, and training but we have hope! That’s all we need!

Resistance scum! They don’t understand the power their are dealing with here

F03hammer · December 7, 2017 9:31PM

Cad_Bane wrote: »

For the resistance!
The FO may have far superior weapons, armor, starfighters, equipment, technology, and training but we have hope! That’s all we need!
Resistance scum! They don’t understand the power their are dealing with here

Black0utz · December 8, 2017 7:28AM

The "light" side has murder, assassins and thiefs but you talk about peace and freedom?
The freedom to kill others who aren't on your side in peace?

Sounds not that "lighty" to me.

Peace comes with order!

LesAnTz · December 8, 2017 8:25AM

I love orders, especially order 66...

Major_Solo · December 8, 2017 9:50AM

Peace Order and Security .
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GreenArrow · December 8, 2017 3:41PM

Can we track the results of factions somewhere online?

Stalemate · December 8, 2017 4:11PM

GreenArrow wrote: »

Can we track the results of factions somewhere online?

Nope.

Shadow_Novus · December 8, 2017 6:50PM

After the campaign bait and switch, I'll take being "evil" where I can get it.

On that note:

GLORY TO THE FIRST ORDER!

WE WILL WIPE THE SCUM OF THE RESISTANCE FROM THE GALAXY!!!

Trooper8059 wrote: »

The First Order will be victorious.

Also, this is made of awesome ^

Wildedile · December 8, 2017 9:57PM

I fight for the First Order.

Also what is this "rebellions are built on hope", and "we have hope" stuff about? It sounds absolutely meaningless to me. What is so special about having hope? Anyone can hope. I'm sure the people of the First Order hope as well.

Mastahpeece · December 9, 2017 12:35AM

Wildedile wrote: »

I fight for the First Order.

Also what is this "rebellions are built on hope", and "we have hope" stuff about? It sounds absolutely meaningless to me. What is so special about having hope? Anyone can hope. I'm sure the people of the First Order hope as well.

They have "hope", we have Snoke

Cad_Bane · December 9, 2017 12:45AM

Mastahpeece wrote: »

Wildedile wrote: »

I fight for the First Order.

Also what is this "rebellions are built on hope", and "we have hope" stuff about? It sounds absolutely meaningless to me. What is so special about having hope? Anyone can hope. I'm sure the people of the First Order hope as well.

They have "hope", we have Snoke

Lol that was gold

d100Productions · December 9, 2017 3:18AM

PhDChaos wrote: »

The leadership of the First Order disgusts me. They are extremists reborn from the ashes of an Empire built upon deceit, hate, and inequality. Their former Empire only existed to protect the Emperor, a Sith Lord, who manipulates a galaxy into murdering and subduing one another. What possible peace could come from a more extreme expression of this type of rule? Down with the First Order! Peace does not exist without freedom, and freedom does not exist in the Dark Side. The First Order is enslaved by their passions and, therefore, in capable of providing anything meaningful except for themselves.

Mmhm. How's that harassment suit for 'General' Calrissian going? Lol. Just keep on looking up future kamikaze fighter. Keep on looking up so you don't see how the Republics own weakness and blind eyes brought you here on this razors edge. Fortunately before they do it again you'll already be one with the force I'm assuming.

Jlopean · December 9, 2017 8:02AM

Phasma looks bad *****.. Finn ...meh!

ambushbob · December 9, 2017 10:13AM

Who cares the game is crap.

Lonnisity · December 9, 2017 11:02PM

ambushbob wrote: »

Who cares the game is ****.

Thank you for your valued contribution.

For real though, I was halfway hoping that choosing a faction would lock you to playing that faction for the duration of the event. I feel like that would really provide a larger scope and really hype up for the movie.

On the other hand, those that would want to play both sides would be out of luck. Maybe there could be a third option to opt-out of the event and play the "mercenary" role in exchange for forfeiting the event prize

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