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For me, it's about whether I watch it in a way that supports the creators or in a way that lets me see the film without supporting them. I am definitely going to see the next movie at some point in some way, but I'll be unlikely to view it in a venue that supports the creators. It would take an incredible effort for them to get me into a movie theater again to see a Star Wars movie.
This video will sum everything up.
My stand out moment being Admiral Purple hair - pointless character. Why? Admiral Ackbar who led at assault on the second Death Star gets blown out into space and never mentioned again - HE should have been the one who adapted the daft story line at the end of the movie by steering the ship into Snokes.
Then - Poe -their BEST pilot - trusted to recover the final piece of the map to Luke - is suddenly not trusted by Ms Purple Hair - to be told of the 'plan' - which leads to the daft side story .
Finn takes a back seat and is turned into a clown and his finest moment is side swiped by a woman... I'm all for strong women in movies - theres a right way, and then there is the Disney way.
The movie was dreadful from start to finish, especially given that it continues immediately after The Force Awakens.
This video sums it up perfectly. I am all for equal opportunities and really love Rey and Finn. But making up nonsense just to prove a point makes me sick. Poe - trusted with getting the final piece of the map to Luke Skywalker, is suddenly not trusted enough to be told of the 'plan' - their BEST pilot. Then comes the pointless side plot story of mutiny.
Ackbar could have been the person who saved the rebels instead of being blown out of the ship and just forgotten. Yes, I understand the actor died in real life - but they have the technology to make it work - look at Tarkin and Red Leader in Rogue One.
This video will sum everything up.
My stand out moment being Admiral Purple hair - pointless character. Why? Admiral Ackbar who led at assault on the second Death Star gets blown out into space and never mentioned again - HE should have been the one who adapted the daft story line at the end of the movie by steering the ship into Snokes.
Then - Poe - trusted to recover the final piece of the map to Luke - is suddenly not trusted by Ms Purple Hair - to be told of the 'plan' - which leads to the daft side story .
Finn takes a back seat and is turned into a clown and his finest moment is side swiped by a woman... I'm all for strong women in movies - theres a right way, and then there is the Disney way.
Her character is just a giant stain on the whole film. I’m still salty they gave her (a character out of nowhere that no one cares about) such a epic send off while the admiral gets killed off screen. It’s pathetic and pointless.
I can agree with this.
Although, looking at things from a broad perspective, I can say (in my opinion) that Rogue One is the only truly good movie out these newer ones so far.
- tankertoad
That would have actually been gutsy and been a real twist and would have made the character have real impact
Ugh, this is going to look so stupid upon reruns
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I live again
I am ROMG4 or is ROMG4 me? If I am ROMG4 who am I? If ROMG4 is me who is he what is he? If I am him who or what am I?
If this is conscious does that mean I know I am ROMG4 or not, is ROMG4 me? or Is it not
Gone forgotten, out of board and into the pan of ghost fire and diatrabe of sadness no one AVENGED ME how could this be. 2 years I exist I help, I talk, I contribute, I speak, no one helped me no aide, no one all alone in the dark of the night where dark things lurk in the more of subconscious thought and that which lurks bellow and beyond the veil of madness and the unknown
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Yep. TFA killed the happy ending of ROTJ and did it lazily and badly and TLJ killed anything that was even vaguely interesting in TFA.
I'd ask how anyone can trash Episodes 1-3 and like either of TFA or TLJ. While the prequels aren't "good" movies they are not cinematic travesties. Lucas at least knows how to shoot and edit a movie. For all there is to dislike in the prequels nothing in them feels as cheap and lazy like the entirety of both TFA and TLJ.
Seriously though
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Look how long he's burned for
You can't tell me that having a giant flare of Plasma through your shoulder is going to heal in a few hours or even a day
Also another huge plot hole is that Finn was struck in the back all the way through the middle so uhh....
Why is the Jacket stitching on the wrong side?
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I am ROMG4 or is ROMG4 me? If I am ROMG4 who am I? If ROMG4 is me who is he what is he? If I am him who or what am I?
If this is conscious does that mean I know I am ROMG4 or not, is ROMG4 me? or Is it not
Gone forgotten, out of board and into the pan of ghost fire and diatrabe of sadness no one AVENGED ME how could this be. 2 years I exist I help, I talk, I contribute, I speak, no one helped me no aide, no one all alone in the dark of the night where dark things lurk in the more of subconscious thought and that which lurks bellow and beyond the veil of madness and the unknown
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In a world where people can survive getting cut off half lying and lying in lava limbless its really not that to believe.
Also stitching being on the wrong side is a slight costume error, not a plot hole. You're upset Snoke changed clothes and is in a room you werent shown in TFA? These are nitpicks at best.
Safe to say they’re not killing Star Wars. You just don’t like them.
These are major Plot details Finn being struck down the back was a big plot point at the end of TFA and the fact they somehow messed it up is not nitpicky
It's called simply watch the previous film
And don't give me that "But, but Maul Survived" no I'm not questioning their survival at all. I'm simply expecting the injuries they sustained in the final seconds of THE PRIOR FILM to have had a residual effect on the IMMEDIATE Sequel
And yes I'm asking why Snoke looks so different not only does he have new Clothes, but a new Body and a new throne room
None of this is explained
They did miss a major opportunity to develop Kylo with these injuries but they ultimately threw that away as well
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I am ROMG4 or is ROMG4 me? If I am ROMG4 who am I? If ROMG4 is me who is he what is he? If I am him who or what am I?
If this is conscious does that mean I know I am ROMG4 or not, is ROMG4 me? or Is it not
Gone forgotten, out of board and into the pan of ghost fire and diatrabe of sadness no one AVENGED ME how could this be. 2 years I exist I help, I talk, I contribute, I speak, no one helped me no aide, no one all alone in the dark of the night where dark things lurk in the more of subconscious thought and that which lurks bellow and beyond the veil of madness and the unknown
Space and Asteroids ROMG4
You literally see Finn in a coma attatched to a medical machine and Kylo getting his wound stitched. Their injuries are clearly acknowledged and the side the stitching is on is not a big plot point. I. Whether it is the right or left side is not important to the plot at all.
Snoke looks different because he is no longer just a hologram. We didnt see him in a throne room in TFA because we didnt see him a room at all, since he was only a hologram. Luke wore different clothes in Empire, does Empire suck because of it?
The resistance ran out of supplies too fast, injuries healing over night, the New Republic just immediately collapsing all happened too fast.
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To be honest, the only thing I find weird regarding Snoke is how inconsistent he looks compared to TFA. I am not talking about him being a hologram in TFA, etc, but how entirely different his head shape is in TLJ, compared to his hologram appearance in TFA. His whole overall look, presence an demeanor are entirely different.
Not a nitpick, just aknowledgig this. I love TLJ (have seen it 7 times so far).
I honestly didnt think (notice) he looked any different and I watched TFA a couple of days before seeing TLJ. I am taking my kids see it sometime this week so I will keep an eye out for it though.
Kylo has no wound from Chewie's shot to his side. The scar moved. Fin got his back sliced, as well as his shoulder stabbed. And I don't care how potent Bacta can heal people; if you have a serious injury like a saber cutting you along your spine, Bacta ain't doing much for that. I may help to heal the skin and some of the damage, but it couldn't do much for Vader, who had some serious burns. And you see how much that helps him. So, how would that really help Finn, whose back was cut diagonally across?
And there was 3 yrs between ANH and TESB. With this film, there was almost no time skip (kinda like how RO goes right into ANH). So, if Luke didn't change his clothes all that time, I'd be worried.
Nice try though.
"It would essentially ruin the eras and turn them into nothing much more than the same thing and same experience but with a different skin. Which is contrary to the point in having eras in the first place." - ZmanGames
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Cue this:
There is no episode VII...
Disney's Star Wars are not here due to a reason. Their reason is greed, cash, money, ka-ching, $$$$$. As we all know quantity > quality right?. A movie a year is sure to be cinematic masterpieces. In addition they deleted the entire expanded universe that actually had a lot of good stories that could easily be transfered to the big screen.
Lying straight to George Lucas face (0:45 in the video)
What does she do instead? Kill them all off and instead and make Star Wars into SJW hyperbole.
So the answer to the original posters topic: Are episodes 7-9 killing Star Wars? YES!!! Their very existence is not rooted from a love of the franchise. It is all about money and political agendas.
Cue this:
There is no episode VII...
Disney's Star Wars are not here due to a reason. Their reason is greed, cash, money, ka-ching, $$$$$. As we all know quantity > quality right?. A movie a year is sure to be cinematic masterpieces. In addition they deleted the entire expanded universe that actually had a lot of good stories that could easily be transfered to the big screen.
Lying straight to George Lucas face (0:45 in the video)
What does she do instead? Kill them all off and instead and make Star Wars into SJW hyperbole.
So the answer to the original posters topic: Are episodes 7-9 killing Star Wars? YES!!! Their very existence is not rooted from a love of the franchise. It is all about money and political agendas.
Oi, of course. Its never long before the butt hurt white guy brigade shows up ready to bring the entire discourse down with their victim fantasy.
It is a quote from his podcast on By The Way in 2013 with Jeff Garlin. The room he talked about was after attending the Emmy awards.
We wrote these characters but when we went to cast it, one of the things I had felt, having been to the Emmys a couple times — you look around that room and you see the whitest ***** room in the history of time. Its just unbelievably white. And I just thought, we’re casting this show and we have an opportunity to do anything we want, why not cast the show with actors of color?
Now change the word "white" with just about any other ethnicity and you would be erased of this planet immediately.
He also along with fellow crew members of Star Trek wrote a open letter against Trump in 2016.
Never has there been a presidential candidate who stands in such complete opposition to the ideals of the Star Trek universe as Donald Trump.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-live-updates-trailguide-87-trekkies-including-j-j-abrams-and-1475171870-htmlstory.html
but of course there is no political motives or agendas anywhere just simple movie making and butt hurt white guys.
It’s like what mark hamill said, People want to watch movies like these because they are so different and take place in another galaxy. It’s like a temporary escape from the problems of the world. Politics of any kind really just needs to stay out.
Reminds me of Assassin's Creed Origins, CoD, and any other annual franchise. Push it till sales expose burn out, then hide it for awhile till the withdrawals exceed common sense... rinse and repeat.
*on midichlorians: My theory is George decided some kind of SciFi explanation would steer any comparisons with religious dogma away from discussion. Increasing sales by way of decreasing religious association. Fanatics spend money too.
Those Tshirts pictured above hit me the wrong way. After consideration, it is the concept of 'ownership' of the force. It's like wearing a shirt and placing anything of your choosing instead of 'Female'. With the recent controversy, using the word Female feels more like trolling from up on high. 'Yawn' Try wearing one that says "the Force is *****", and check the looks you get.......
I didn't know the name for a males seed was considered taboo... sorry
Unfortunately we live in a world where that is literally impossible.
You make a new trilogy without a woman as the protagonist, that's going to be political, as in "So out of decades of movies and a trilogy of trilogies....a woman can't be the main character?" You do case a woman as the main character and all of the MRA and butt hurt male types come crawling out yelling "mary sue" and caling it political correctness. You make a universe that is like 99% white people and the stark absence of racial minorities starts to really stand out. You introduce a black main character and start sprinkling in more ethnic diversity in the background characters and suddenly you're pushing a liberal agenda.
No way to keep politics out of anything. At least not until we reach a point where the racial makeup of any particular movie or fantasy universe is not worth noticing or mentioning because racial disparity is no longer a salient part of the zeitgiest, but I would say we are least a few more lifetimes away from that being the case, and people making a huge fuss when diversity is included is a big part of why it's still a big deal. If nobody gave a ***** that they added a woman and a black guy and didn't think twice about it, we wouldn't have these problems.
It might start to change quickly.
Take out TLJ and Hollywoood had an awful year because people are tired of it.
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*eyeroll*
Suuuure, that's gotta be it.
Same issue the NFL is having, we don't want to listen to the progressive agenda in our entertainment.
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Well they gave a **** about it and constantly nagged about it since A New hope from 1977. So instead of making movies it has become about filling quotas to fill the diversity multicultural dream. Bollywood and India produce the most movies a year. Do they fill them with white, asian, blacks?, nope.... Same with asian countries. Do they have quotas for white guys, black guys, indians? Nope. Only in the western world this is seen as a problem.
I find it funny that liberals claim that people have a big problem with race and gender yet all they talk about is race and gender. When everybody then make a issue of race and gender they get surprised. Gee I wonder why. Keep ramming it down everybodys throat. It sure helps.
I can understand your disliking of the prequels. There is one thing though that I noticed alot of people have trouble doing that makes at least one moment good. If you'll bear with me for a moment imagine when you watch them that that you've only seen the ones before it. The Obi-Wan vs Anakin fight. It's established in episode 1 that's they'll kill Jedi main characters no problem with Qui-Gon. Just that fight seems amazing to me when you look at it from that perspective. Two people who are like brothers fighting for what they believe is right, the emotion that has to go into that. If you can pretend like you don't know how it's going to turn out before hand, its just really intense. I at least appreciate that.