When Was the Last Time You Saw a Saber Hero at the Top of HvV?

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 1:28PM

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

GenxDarchi · January 11, 2018 1:35PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Well, the rebels do have some of the best blaster heroes, and some of the the only good saber heroes are Yoda and Rey those are easy to pick up and use, well not exactly Yoda but Rey. They do have a grenade lobbing high damage sharpshooter, a walking carpet with a dangerous shock and shoot tactic, a explosive bolt Senator, and a con man with a dangerous disabaler.

OOM19 · January 11, 2018 1:39PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Every single time I'm in HVV

Oakman · January 11, 2018 1:41PM

That would have been yesterday. My kid finished first as Darth Maul.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 1:41PM

Maybe the nerf to rolling will help saber heroes, since it has been confirmed. I still think the score screen needs to change though, because it seems entirely based on damage done and that gives blaster heroes a massive advantage if you're going for top spot and the most credits.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 1:44PM

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Every single time I'm in HVV

Really? If that's the case, why do you find Boba so annoying?

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 1:45PM

Oakman wrote: »

That would have been yesterday. My kid finished first as Darth Maul.

How often do you see it happen?

Lynx7386 · January 11, 2018 1:49PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

Maybe the nerf to rolling will help saber heroes, since it has been confirmed. I still think the score screen needs to change though, because it seems entirely based on damage done and that gives blaster heroes a massive advantage if you're going for top spot and the most credits.

The day that lightsaber heroes can outdamage blaster heroes is the day I stop playing this game. Its bad enough they can block your damage, have much higher speed and jump height, stunlock with basic attack spam, and can toss you around like a rag doll. Now all the whining glowstick groupies are getting rolling nerfed because it was too hard for them to deal with the one counter to lightsabers that anyone had.

Jedi junkies need to ****.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 1:51PM

Lynx7386 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

Maybe the nerf to rolling will help saber heroes, since it has been confirmed. I still think the score screen needs to change though, because it seems entirely based on damage done and that gives blaster heroes a massive advantage if you're going for top spot and the most credits.

The day that lightsaber heroes can outdamage blaster heroes is the day I stop playing this game. Its bad enough they can block your damage, have much higher speed and jump height, stunlock with basic attack spam, and can toss you around like a rag doll. Now all the whining glowstick groupies are getting rolling nerfed because it was too hard for them to deal with the one counter to lightsabers that anyone had.

Jedi junkies need to ****.

I'm not saying saber heroes need a buff in damage, I'd just like the score screen at the end to be changed so that it isn't entirely based on damage dealt.

OOM19 · January 11, 2018 1:52PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Every single time I'm in HVV

Really? If that's the case, why do you find Boba so annoying?

Because Boba Is broken regardless of the character

They gave him the strength of a Blaster Hero and all the mobility of a Saber user and in-fact actually more

Which makes him infuriating to fight against, especially when he's the target because even when you get him to 10HP left he'll just simply fly away into a invincible exploit spot, wall section, or platform until his HP comes back and Rocket Barrage goes out of cool down

Then he'll fly up and simply kill you even if you have 650HP as Lando or Luke. that and I swear I've followed Boba Players for 2 minutes and they'll never ever run out of fuel for a long enough time for me to capitalize on it as Rey or Luke, so yeah he's pretty broken

Every Hero is viable even Yoda who is considered the weakest Saber user in the game, I've taken him to 20,000-25,000 Points in some HVV matches by keeping my Saber Patterns controlled and planning ahead

In my opinion this is how the strength goes;

Early Game: Saber Heroes hold the advantage because most are still learning how to shoot and roll and Button Mash rains supreme.

Middle Game: Blaster Heroes hold the advantage from experience learning how to shoot as Infantry while Saber Heroes are still trying to learn Strike patterns and blocking.

Late Game: Saber Heroes hold a slight advantage due to their superior speed, higher health and aim assist strikes

It all just takes time and practice

bfloo · January 11, 2018 1:55PM

Lynx7386 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

Maybe the nerf to rolling will help saber heroes, since it has been confirmed. I still think the score screen needs to change though, because it seems entirely based on damage done and that gives blaster heroes a massive advantage if you're going for top spot and the most credits.

The day that lightsaber heroes can outdamage blaster heroes is the day I stop playing this game. Its bad enough they can block your damage, have much higher speed and jump height, stunlock with basic attack spam, and can toss you around like a rag doll. Now all the whining glowstick groupies are getting rolling nerfed because it was too hard for them to deal with the one counter to lightsabers that anyone had.

Jedi junkies need to ****.

Lightsaber heroes can out damage blaster heroes. The hard part is getting into melee range to do it.

rocketpig · January 11, 2018 1:56PM

I topped the match with both Vader and Rey yesterday.

GenxDarchi · January 11, 2018 1:59PM

It isn’t hard, depending on whom you play, but I top the list fairly consistently with Vader. I do play as Chewie if Rey is taken though.

rocketpig · January 11, 2018 2:00PM

But, to be fair to my team, it required some teamwork to get there. The fights were usually 3v4 or 4v4, which allowed me to get into the fray as a saber hero instead of prancing around, looking for an opening where I won't get melted by an enemy blaster user as I engage someone else with the saber (which is usually how it goes for me in HvV).

But I found it's pretty easy to top a match, particularly as Rey. Her dash ability allowed me to wreck even a bunch of blaster heroes who tried to run away after I finished the saber hero.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 2:04PM

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Every single time I'm in HVV

Really? If that's the case, why do you find Boba so annoying?

Because Boba Is broken regardless of the character

They gave him the strength of a Blaster Hero and all the mobility of a Saber user and in-fact actually more

Which makes him infuriating to fight against, especially when he's the target because even when you get him to 10HP left he'll just simply fly away into a invincible exploit spot, wall section, or platform until his HP comes back and Rocket Barrage goes out of cool down

Then he'll fly up and simply kill you even if you have 650HP as Lando or Luke. that and I swear I've followed Boba Players for 2 minutes and they'll never ever run out of fuel for a long enough time for me to capitalize on it as Rey or Luke, so yeah he's pretty broken

Every Hero is viable even Yoda who is considered the weakest Saber user in the game, I've taken him to 20,000-25,000 Points in some HVV matches by keeping my Saber Patterns controlled and planning ahead

In my opinion this is how the strength goes;

Early Game: Saber Heroes hold the advantage because most are still learning how to shoot and roll and Button Mash rains supreme.

Middle Game: Blaster Heroes hold the advantage from experience learning how to shoot as Infantry while Saber Heroes are still trying to learn Strike patterns and blocking.

Late Game: Saber Heroes hold a slight advantage due to their superior speed, higher health and aim assist strikes

It all just takes time and practice

I agree that all heroes are viable in the right hands, but I still think blaster heroes are favored a bit too much with the current score system since it is entirely based on damage and doesn't reward plaers for anything like longest killstreak anymore. I don't have a problem suviving an entire match with Yoda, but getting enough damage to get the top spot is almost impossible if the other team has decent players. That's why I liked the old screen, because I liked getting things like longest killstreak with Yoda, even though I'd almost never get most damage with him. Saber heroes are honestly at the top every time you play though? I rarely see anyone other than Palp, Boba, Chewie and Han.

bfloo · January 11, 2018 2:07PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Every single time I'm in HVV

Really? If that's the case, why do you find Boba so annoying?

Because Boba Is broken regardless of the character

They gave him the strength of a Blaster Hero and all the mobility of a Saber user and in-fact actually more

Which makes him infuriating to fight against, especially when he's the target because even when you get him to 10HP left he'll just simply fly away into a invincible exploit spot, wall section, or platform until his HP comes back and Rocket Barrage goes out of cool down

Then he'll fly up and simply kill you even if you have 650HP as Lando or Luke. that and I swear I've followed Boba Players for 2 minutes and they'll never ever run out of fuel for a long enough time for me to capitalize on it as Rey or Luke, so yeah he's pretty broken

Every Hero is viable even Yoda who is considered the weakest Saber user in the game, I've taken him to 20,000-25,000 Points in some HVV matches by keeping my Saber Patterns controlled and planning ahead

In my opinion this is how the strength goes;

Early Game: Saber Heroes hold the advantage because most are still learning how to shoot and roll and Button Mash rains supreme.

Middle Game: Blaster Heroes hold the advantage from experience learning how to shoot as Infantry while Saber Heroes are still trying to learn Strike patterns and blocking.

Late Game: Saber Heroes hold a slight advantage due to their superior speed, higher health and aim assist strikes

It all just takes time and practice

I agree that all heroes are viable in the right hands, but I still think blaster heroes are favored a bit too much with the current score system since it is entirely based on damage and doesn't reward plaers for anything like longest killstreak anymore. I don't have a problem suviving an entire match with Yoda, but getting enough damage to get the top spot is almost impossible if the other team has decent players. That's why I liked the old screen, because I liked getting things like longest killstreak with Yoda, even though I'd almost never get most damage with him. Saber heroes are honestly at the top every time you play though? I rarely see anyone other than Palp, Boba, Chewie and Han.

Rey Vader and Maul take the top spot a lot, though Palps and Chewie are pretty common too.

timidobserver · January 11, 2018 2:26PM

I see it sometimes against incredibly bad players. In a decent competitive match, it is rare.

OOM19 · January 11, 2018 2:29PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Every single time I'm in HVV

Really? If that's the case, why do you find Boba so annoying?

Because Boba Is broken regardless of the character

They gave him the strength of a Blaster Hero and all the mobility of a Saber user and in-fact actually more

Which makes him infuriating to fight against, especially when he's the target because even when you get him to 10HP left he'll just simply fly away into a invincible exploit spot, wall section, or platform until his HP comes back and Rocket Barrage goes out of cool down

Then he'll fly up and simply kill you even if you have 650HP as Lando or Luke. that and I swear I've followed Boba Players for 2 minutes and they'll never ever run out of fuel for a long enough time for me to capitalize on it as Rey or Luke, so yeah he's pretty broken

Every Hero is viable even Yoda who is considered the weakest Saber user in the game, I've taken him to 20,000-25,000 Points in some HVV matches by keeping my Saber Patterns controlled and planning ahead

In my opinion this is how the strength goes;

Early Game: Saber Heroes hold the advantage because most are still learning how to shoot and roll and Button Mash rains supreme.

Middle Game: Blaster Heroes hold the advantage from experience learning how to shoot as Infantry while Saber Heroes are still trying to learn Strike patterns and blocking.

Late Game: Saber Heroes hold a slight advantage due to their superior speed, higher health and aim assist strikes

It all just takes time and practice

I agree that all heroes are viable in the right hands, but I still think blaster heroes are favored a bit too much with the current score system since it is entirely based on damage and doesn't reward plaers for anything like longest killstreak anymore. I don't have a problem suviving an entire match with Yoda, but getting enough damage to get the top spot is almost impossible if the other team has decent players. That's why I liked the old screen, because I liked getting things like longest killstreak with Yoda, even though I'd almost never get most damage with him. Saber heroes are honestly at the top every time you play though? I rarely see anyone other than Palp, Boba, Chewie and Han.

Do you play on PC?

LoneShooter72 · January 11, 2018 2:31PM

Last night maxed out Luke.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 2:34PM

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Every single time I'm in HVV

Really? If that's the case, why do you find Boba so annoying?

Because Boba Is broken regardless of the character

They gave him the strength of a Blaster Hero and all the mobility of a Saber user and in-fact actually more

Which makes him infuriating to fight against, especially when he's the target because even when you get him to 10HP left he'll just simply fly away into a invincible exploit spot, wall section, or platform until his HP comes back and Rocket Barrage goes out of cool down

Then he'll fly up and simply kill you even if you have 650HP as Lando or Luke. that and I swear I've followed Boba Players for 2 minutes and they'll never ever run out of fuel for a long enough time for me to capitalize on it as Rey or Luke, so yeah he's pretty broken

Every Hero is viable even Yoda who is considered the weakest Saber user in the game, I've taken him to 20,000-25,000 Points in some HVV matches by keeping my Saber Patterns controlled and planning ahead

In my opinion this is how the strength goes;

Early Game: Saber Heroes hold the advantage because most are still learning how to shoot and roll and Button Mash rains supreme.

Middle Game: Blaster Heroes hold the advantage from experience learning how to shoot as Infantry while Saber Heroes are still trying to learn Strike patterns and blocking.

Late Game: Saber Heroes hold a slight advantage due to their superior speed, higher health and aim assist strikes

It all just takes time and practice

I agree that all heroes are viable in the right hands, but I still think blaster heroes are favored a bit too much with the current score system since it is entirely based on damage and doesn't reward plaers for anything like longest killstreak anymore. I don't have a problem suviving an entire match with Yoda, but getting enough damage to get the top spot is almost impossible if the other team has decent players. That's why I liked the old screen, because I liked getting things like longest killstreak with Yoda, even though I'd almost never get most damage with him. Saber heroes are honestly at the top every time you play though? I rarely see anyone other than Palp, Boba, Chewie and Han.

Do you play on PC?

Nope, Xbox.

OOM19 · January 11, 2018 2:34PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Every single time I'm in HVV

Really? If that's the case, why do you find Boba so annoying?

Because Boba Is broken regardless of the character

They gave him the strength of a Blaster Hero and all the mobility of a Saber user and in-fact actually more

Which makes him infuriating to fight against, especially when he's the target because even when you get him to 10HP left he'll just simply fly away into a invincible exploit spot, wall section, or platform until his HP comes back and Rocket Barrage goes out of cool down

Then he'll fly up and simply kill you even if you have 650HP as Lando or Luke. that and I swear I've followed Boba Players for 2 minutes and they'll never ever run out of fuel for a long enough time for me to capitalize on it as Rey or Luke, so yeah he's pretty broken

Every Hero is viable even Yoda who is considered the weakest Saber user in the game, I've taken him to 20,000-25,000 Points in some HVV matches by keeping my Saber Patterns controlled and planning ahead

In my opinion this is how the strength goes;

Early Game: Saber Heroes hold the advantage because most are still learning how to shoot and roll and Button Mash rains supreme.

Middle Game: Blaster Heroes hold the advantage from experience learning how to shoot as Infantry while Saber Heroes are still trying to learn Strike patterns and blocking.

Late Game: Saber Heroes hold a slight advantage due to their superior speed, higher health and aim assist strikes

It all just takes time and practice

I agree that all heroes are viable in the right hands, but I still think blaster heroes are favored a bit too much with the current score system since it is entirely based on damage and doesn't reward plaers for anything like longest killstreak anymore. I don't have a problem suviving an entire match with Yoda, but getting enough damage to get the top spot is almost impossible if the other team has decent players. That's why I liked the old screen, because I liked getting things like longest killstreak with Yoda, even though I'd almost never get most damage with him. Saber heroes are honestly at the top every time you play though? I rarely see anyone other than Palp, Boba, Chewie and Han.

Do you play on PC?

Nope, Xbox.

Aw could have been fun to party up

But on PC the power difference between the two Classes is pretty much equal

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 2:39PM

timidobserver wrote: »

I see it sometimes against incredibly bad players. In a decent competitive match, it is rare.

Yeah, this is generally my experience as a saber duel between 2 equally skilled players can last a while with not a lot of damage being dealt, which makes it harder to stay ahead of blaster heroes/Palp. If you win 7 saber duels in one life though, I think you should still be rewarded as much as the Chewie who killed 10 people, but died 6 times.

EventHorizionOH · January 11, 2018 2:40PM

I have taken the Top Spot in HvV with every char and I am very sub par with Han Solo. I am on PS4.

Who is the hardest to do it with, Yoda, hands down. It just seems like he is not a scoring monster i HvV.

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

OOM19 wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

Every single time I'm in HVV

Really? If that's the case, why do you find Boba so annoying?

In my opinion this is how the strength goes;

Early Game: Saber Heroes hold the advantage because most are still learning how to shoot and roll and Button Mash rains supreme.

Middle Game: Blaster Heroes hold the advantage from experience learning how to shoot as Infantry while Saber Heroes are still trying to learn Strike patterns and blocking.

Late Game: Saber Heroes hold a slight advantage due to their superior speed, higher health and aim assist strikes

It all just takes time and practice

I agree with this almost 100%. But I think Middle Game and Late game becomes a blur. I have seen some amazing Darth Vaders out there that will wreck, but if your ranged chars keep him in check it equals out. I understand you're just putting out a generalization which is very very true to your statement.

BatmansAGeordie · January 11, 2018 2:43PM

Ive finished top once or twice with Vader but generally have had my performances using Han. The heroes I see in the number one spot at then end of the game most often are probably Finn and Boba.

KlownShueS wrote: »

Last night maxed out Luke.

Kasyyyk by any chance?

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 2:46PM

BatmansAGeordie wrote: »

Ive finished top once or twice with Vader but generally have had my performances using Han. The heroes I see in the number one spot at then end of the game most often is probably Finn and Boba.

Same. Palp, Boba, Chewie and Han are almost all I see in 1st. I've started seeing more Finn recently, but I think he is just a noob/Boba killer, as he has no way to stun people.

EventHorizionOH · January 11, 2018 2:49PM

Also going to state this too. I know it's tied to credits which suck. But I too agree the Heroes Vs Villains scoring needs to change.

You need to get 500 scoring when surviving as the target. This forces smarter play when you're the target but sadly it will encourage the running that is such a pain to deal with against Palp, Rey and Maul. But the score screen needs to show.

Died while the target XX
Survived while the target XX
Assisted on target XX

I have stated before someone who scored 30 kills and 25k points
and another player who scored 19 kills and 18k points <--- this player may have done better than above player. Depending on stats above. But also may of landed 3rd or 4th on the "leader board"

lerodemmy · January 11, 2018 2:58PM

I'm at the top of HvV all the time as Vader and Rey. My partner is often there as Luke.

NurKenobi · January 11, 2018 3:01PM

Well, I see both of them on the top. Actually, you should look at the whole top 5, and you will almost always find more lightsaber heroes than blaster heroes.

Reyne · January 11, 2018 3:03PM

Usually me when I'm Vader

AOD_MelournRex · January 11, 2018 3:10PM

Yesterday when I was playing as Vader. It did help that the opponents seemed to be fairly new. Kudos to them for staying till the end.

I have yet to see someone else than Rey/Vader topping leaderboards though for the lightsaber heroes.

AOD_DarthGoalie · January 11, 2018 3:12PM

rocketpig wrote: »

I topped the match with both Vader and Rey yesterday.

Same here

EventHorizionOH · January 11, 2018 3:12PM

Rey gets an advantage due to Insight. It does give her score in HvV.

timidobserver · January 11, 2018 3:15PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I see it sometimes against incredibly bad players. In a decent competitive match, it is rare.

Yeah, this is generally my experience as a saber duel between 2 equally skilled players can last a while with not a lot of damage being dealt, which makes it harder to stay ahead of blaster heroes/Palp. If you win 7 saber duels in one life though, I think you should still be rewarded as much as the Chewie who killed 10 people, but died 6 times.

I agree that scoring needs to be reevaluated. As far as I can tell, the best way to get a high score is picking Han Solo. Ignore the target. Ignore your team. Ignore winning. Just shoot the enemy and detonite them as much as possible for the whole match.

EventHorizionOH · January 11, 2018 3:21PM

timidobserver wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I see it sometimes against incredibly bad players. In a decent competitive match, it is rare.

Yeah, this is generally my experience as a saber duel between 2 equally skilled players can last a while with not a lot of damage being dealt, which makes it harder to stay ahead of blaster heroes/Palp. If you win 7 saber duels in one life though, I think you should still be rewarded as much as the Chewie who killed 10 people, but died 6 times.

I agree that scoring needs to be reevaluated. As far as I can tell, the best way to get a high score is picking Han Solo. Ignore the target. Ignore your team. Ignore winning. Just shoot the enemy and detonite them as much as possible for the whole match.

Agree 100% scoring needs to change, perhaps we should create a new thread about it.

KingGio21 · January 11, 2018 3:29PM

I do pretty well as Maul and Rey, just scout out an area before you attack. As long as you keep in mind where the enemy is (this is really easy with Rey’s insight) you can flank pick up a kill or two and dip out before you get mirked. Even got hate mail a few times using Rey’s insight and mind trick combo with Opportunist star card. DPS with Rey is ridiculous with this set up. Mauls DPS is ridiculous as well as long as you stay mobile and follow up any Force choke with a saber throw and then a dash takes out more than half health near instantly.

Bounty_Hunter · January 11, 2018 3:32PM

Don’t bring a saber to a gunfight.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 3:40PM

EventHorizionOH wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I see it sometimes against incredibly bad players. In a decent competitive match, it is rare.

Yeah, this is generally my experience as a saber duel between 2 equally skilled players can last a while with not a lot of damage being dealt, which makes it harder to stay ahead of blaster heroes/Palp. If you win 7 saber duels in one life though, I think you should still be rewarded as much as the Chewie who killed 10 people, but died 6 times.

I agree that scoring needs to be reevaluated. As far as I can tell, the best way to get a high score is picking Han Solo. Ignore the target. Ignore your team. Ignore winning. Just shoot the enemy and detonite them as much as possible for the whole match.

Agree 100% scoring needs to change, perhaps we should create a new thread about it.

You're more than welcome to make your own thread and I would be glad to join in the discussion if you choose to do so. I was hoping for this thread to be about scoring changes, but maybe another more organized thread would be better for that specifically.

lerodemmy · January 11, 2018 3:40PM

15 minutes ago

3 minutes ago

That's most matches for me, but it doesn't always happen. Usually the only ones who outscore me are Chewie, Finn or Han. It's so easy to rack up big points with the first two, especially Chewie. I think there's a lot more skill to playing Han.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 3:45PM

lerodemmy wrote: »

15 minutes ago

3 minutes ago

That's most matches for me, but it doesn't always happen. Usually the only ones who outscore me are Chewie, Finn or Han. It's so easy to rack up big points with the first two, especially Chewie. I think there's a lot more skill to playing Han.

I think Rey's Insight gives her a big advantage over other saber heroes when it comes to score, but that said, well done.

lerodemmy · January 11, 2018 3:49PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

lerodemmy wrote: »

15 minutes ago

3 minutes ago

That's most matches for me, but it doesn't always happen. Usually the only ones who outscore me are Chewie, Finn or Han. It's so easy to rack up big points with the first two, especially Chewie. I think there's a lot more skill to playing Han.

I think Rey's Insight gives her a big advantage over other saber heroes when it comes to score, but that said, well done.

Thanks, but I don't think so. I haven't really paid much attention to it, but I think you receive a negligible amount of score when you get an assist from it. I tend to be the one doing all the killing anyway.

In GA, the score you receive from Insight assists is ridiculously high.

EventHorizionOH · January 11, 2018 3:51PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

EventHorizionOH wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I see it sometimes against incredibly bad players. In a decent competitive match, it is rare.

Yeah, this is generally my experience as a saber duel between 2 equally skilled players can last a while with not a lot of damage being dealt, which makes it harder to stay ahead of blaster heroes/Palp. If you win 7 saber duels in one life though, I think you should still be rewarded as much as the Chewie who killed 10 people, but died 6 times.

I agree that scoring needs to be reevaluated. As far as I can tell, the best way to get a high score is picking Han Solo. Ignore the target. Ignore your team. Ignore winning. Just shoot the enemy and detonite them as much as possible for the whole match.

Agree 100% scoring needs to change, perhaps we should create a new thread about it.

You're more than welcome to make your own thread and I would be glad to join in the discussion if you choose to do so. I was hoping for this thread to be about scoring changes, but maybe another more organized thread would be better for that specifically.

Sorry about that, I took this as more of a rant post than, scoring needs to change post. My apologizes there. I do think another "more oganized thread" with a better title and little more explanation from the start may be needed.

lerodemmy · January 11, 2018 3:52PM

KingGio21 wrote: »

I do pretty well as Maul and Rey, just scout out an area before you attack. As long as you keep in mind where the enemy is (this is really easy with Rey’s insight) you can flank pick up a kill or two and dip out before you get mirked. Even got hate mail a few times using Rey’s insight and mind trick combo with Opportunist star card. DPS with Rey is ridiculous with this set up. Mauls DPS is ridiculous as well as long as you stay mobile and follow up any Force choke with a saber throw and then a dash takes out more than half health near instantly.

Yes. If you use Damaging Strike as well, along with Deep Mind and dash hit them from behind, they're screwed.

Phantom_A320 · January 11, 2018 4:01PM

I’ve topped most all games with saber heroes.

But sometimes it ends up being Chewbacca or Lando. I RARELY see Boba Fett on top. He’s pretty weak in HvV if you ask me. I rarely ever die to him and honestly I kill him a lot as a saber hero in HvV. He tries running but I have outsmarted and caught him so many times. So I’m not really sure what the complaints of Boba are all about.

The real annoyance is Phasma with a group that doesn’t wanna move away from the droid. Or when I play villains the newest trend is Lando/Chewie combos. Talk about non stop shock grenades and cheap killing. Even then though I have had games my team overcame. But it can’t be a bad team with Lando/Chewie on the other side or you’re toast.

lerodemmy · January 11, 2018 4:11PM

Phantom_A320 wrote: »

I’ve topped most all games with saber heroes.

But sometimes it ends up being Chewbacca or Lando. I RARELY see Boba Fett on top. He’s pretty weak in HvV if you ask me. I rarely ever die to him and honestly I kill him a lot as a saber hero in HvV. He tries running but I have outsmarted and caught him so many times. So I’m not really sure what the complaints of Boba are all about.

The real annoyance is Phasma with a group that doesn’t wanna move away from the droid. Or when I play villains the newest trend is Lando/Chewie combos. Talk about non stop shock grenades and cheap killing. Even then though I have had games my team overcame. But it can’t be a bad team with Lando/Chewie on the other side or you’re toast.

True statements.

The problem with Boba is if you're on a bad team, he'll destroy people who aren't aware of him and don't think to avoid his rockets. It's obviously their own fault, but they might not die so quickly to a different villain.

The other thing is, of course, that he can get to places that make him almost invincible. There's a spot on Tatooine where he's very difficult to hit, regardless of the hero. And when the saber hero does finally get to him he can just fly away. There are many places like this on Yavin 4 and also a spot on Hoth where he can't be touched. Probably some I'm forgetting as well.

But all in all, I agree with you. A competent hero will rarely die to Boba. He can just cause a lot of problems if you have two or more incompetent teammates.

Whodunnit · January 11, 2018 4:20PM

I wonder if Yoda can get on the top.

DynamitePro26 · January 11, 2018 4:21PM

Yes, generally it's me with Rey or Kylo.

HotaruTakanori · January 11, 2018 4:24PM

In the last couple of days for me and it was me as Rey. Surprised even myself with that one, but I guess I was playing extra aggressive and the team I had just worked out.

*I've had matches like this with Luke early on, but after seeing The Last Jedi... I've been gravitating towards Kylo Ren and Rey. I regret nothing.

DynamitePro26 · January 11, 2018 4:28PM

HotaruTakanori wrote: »

In the last couple of days for me and it was me as Rey. Surprised even myself with that one, but I guess I was playing extra aggressive and the team I had just worked out.

*I've had matches like this with Luke early on, but after seeing The Last Jedi... I've been gravitating towards Kylo Ren and Rey. I regret nothing.

After watching The Last Jedi, I've gravitated away from them. Rey is the still the same old Mary Sue from the force awakens and Kylo is still acting like a whiny brat. The protagonists from both sides are both poorly built characters, which is a real shame.

SSJSnoop · January 11, 2018 4:45PM

I'm usually at the top with Kylo or Luke.

Not to say there aren't a lot of games with Chewie or Palp as #1 but I see saber characters #1 a lot too.

smokesnugs · January 11, 2018 4:54PM

5 min ago, top 3 were sabers

milkAcat · January 11, 2018 4:56PM

Palpatine is the biggest pain in the back side. To counter him with a saber hero though, you just have to switch to a blaster hero. Simple.

Palp has the best dodge and can shoot while flying. Plus, he can shoot through the walls.

I can beat him on a blaster hero usually. The maps feel like they're chosen for people who can fly though. Just can't chase him down.

I see a fair mix though. That's only because people still don't known how to to dodge roll though.

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