When Was the Last Time You Saw a Saber Hero at the Top of HvV?

Tomm3hgunn · January 11, 2018 11:27PM

EventHorizionOH wrote: »

I have taken the Top Spot in HvV with every char and I am very sub par with Han Solo. I am on PS4.

Who is the hardest to do it with, Yoda, hands down. It just seems like he is not a scoring monster i HvV.

I will play HvV soon and update you if I get top with Yoda lol

boolausus13555 · January 11, 2018 11:47PM

95% of the time actually.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 11, 2018 11:53PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

Whodunnit wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

Whodunnit wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

EventHorizionOH wrote: »

@MLGGrandMasterBroda

I use Agility <---a must
Jedi mentor and
Opposing the dark side.

All blue. But Jedi mentor and Opposing can be switched out to your gameplay style.

I've been using the 2 cards that buff Presence and the damage reduction all at epic for GA, but I haven't switched cards for HvV yet, so maybe that's why I haven't gotten 1st with him since we got the new score screen. How were you able to do more damage with him than Chewie though?

That card which increases Presence duration doesn't work now as intended after the last patch. After the original duration ends, it starts to drop. So I don't recommend using it until they fix it.

I think it still drops after 10 seconds regardless, but I believe it goes at a slower rate with the card. I'll test it though to see if you're right.

I didn't pay attention to the speed so I'm looking forward to your findings.

@Whodunnit Here is my test: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AveJpgcuWkNffRqY9-Miaf29GPE

I haven't properly timed it yet as I don't currently have anything to time it with, but I will post the times soon if someone doesn't beat me to it. The first test is with all the epic cards, the second with just the extra health and no duration bonus and the last is completely without upgrades.

Could anybody possibly time this for me? I want to be as accurate as possible, but I don't have anything to time it since my phone is currently broken. All I need is the time from activating Presence to when it starts going down and then how long it takes to get back to 700 hp for all 3 tests. Thanks!

Tarrick · January 12, 2018 12:02AM

EventHorizionOH wrote: »

Tarrick wrote: »

I would just like to see the players reset to their team's side (or any side together and opposite the enemy team) after either target dies. Having the enemy team all on top of you already because you just barely killed the target while your teammates spawn on the opposite side of the map is extremely frustrating. Reduce the number of kills needed for the match if a reset in between would take too long.

Wait what, this would Ruin HvV. Team fights are tricky and proper coordination is needed to win. Your suggestion makes it a buttion mash/dps race with no real skill needed. CC the target explode on them, win every time.

That's all virtually every match I've ever been in is anyway... Both sides just non-stop fighting with no observance of who the target is and whoever gets it is right there in the middle of the brawl when it happens anyway, or a teammate spawns and gets the target immediately but is on the other side of the map with the enemy team in between. What I'm recommending is the playstyle used in every competitive multiplayer game ever. It's a competitive mode, there should at least be a modicum of stability.

It isn't absolute, but without a reset, the advantage is given to the team to win the first target brawl because they are already grouped and organized while the team that lost has to respawn at seemingly random points around some maps. I have seen teammates spawn immediately after one another on opposite sides of the map and both far away from the teammates that were still alive while the enemy team was in a group of 4 right in the middle of all of it.

ElChubaNibre · January 12, 2018 12:06AM

Tarrick wrote: »

EventHorizionOH wrote: »

Tarrick wrote: »

I would just like to see the players reset to their team's side (or any side together and opposite the enemy team) after either target dies. Having the enemy team all on top of you already because you just barely killed the target while your teammates spawn on the opposite side of the map is extremely frustrating. Reduce the number of kills needed for the match if a reset in between would take too long.

Wait what, this would Ruin HvV. Team fights are tricky and proper coordination is needed to win. Your suggestion makes it a buttion mash/dps race with no real skill needed. CC the target explode on them, win every time.

That's all virtually every match I've ever been in is anyway... Both sides just non-stop fighting with no observance of who the target is and whoever gets it is right there in the middle of the brawl when it happens anyway, or a teammate spawns and gets the target immediately but is on the other side of the map with the enemy team in between. What I'm recommending is the playstyle used in every competitive multiplayer game ever. It's a competitive mode, there should at least be a modicum of stability.

It isn't absolute, but without a reset, the advantage is given to the team to win the first target brawl because they are already grouped and organized while the team that lost has to respawn at seemingly random points around some maps. I have seen teammates spawn immediately after one another on opposite sides of the map and both far away from the teammates that were still alive while the enemy team was in a group of 4 right in the middle of all of it.

Hence the teamplay should occur also to those who are becoming targets - retreat to your team, regroup or if you are in bad place and becoming a target, get killed or respawn.

Elusive_DJ · January 12, 2018 7:42AM

I only get top of the board with Maul, Vader, and Rey, every other saber wielder just sucks.
Yoda, Luke, need to pack more of a punch. Kylo just sucks in almost every single way, you can accomplish everything you want with him with Vader instead, he's much better.

Whodunnit · January 12, 2018 10:21AM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

Whodunnit wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

Whodunnit wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

EventHorizionOH wrote: »

@MLGGrandMasterBroda

I use Agility <---a must
Jedi mentor and
Opposing the dark side.

All blue. But Jedi mentor and Opposing can be switched out to your gameplay style.

I've been using the 2 cards that buff Presence and the damage reduction all at epic for GA, but I haven't switched cards for HvV yet, so maybe that's why I haven't gotten 1st with him since we got the new score screen. How were you able to do more damage with him than Chewie though?

That card which increases Presence duration doesn't work now as intended after the last patch. After the original duration ends, it starts to drop. So I don't recommend using it until they fix it.

I think it still drops after 10 seconds regardless, but I believe it goes at a slower rate with the card. I'll test it though to see if you're right.

I didn't pay attention to the speed so I'm looking forward to your findings.

@Whodunnit Here is my test: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AveJpgcuWkNffRqY9-Miaf29GPE

I haven't properly timed it yet as I don't currently have anything to time it with, but I will post the times soon if someone doesn't beat me to it. The first test is with all the epic cards, the second with just the extra health and no duration bonus and the last is completely without upgrades.

Thanks for the test! The speed looks the same to me although a proper timing would help. But if the speed is really the same then it makes the duration increase card useless (only the UI shows the extended duration).
I think it's a mistake from the developers, when they changed Presence in the last patch so it drops down now slowly, they forgot to count the additional duration and it always starts to drop down after 10 seconds.
EDIT: In the video both (the first two) take exactly 1 minute to drop. So I don't think there's a difference. Also you still have the extra health when the ability cooldown is over and it's available again, makes the extra duration card even more pointless even if it would work. So it doesn't matter that they increased the ability cooldown time.

unit900000 · January 12, 2018 10:49AM

the old scoreboard is better

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 12, 2018 11:07AM

Whodunnit wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

Whodunnit wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

Whodunnit wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

EventHorizionOH wrote: »

@MLGGrandMasterBroda

I use Agility <---a must
Jedi mentor and
Opposing the dark side.

All blue. But Jedi mentor and Opposing can be switched out to your gameplay style.

I've been using the 2 cards that buff Presence and the damage reduction all at epic for GA, but I haven't switched cards for HvV yet, so maybe that's why I haven't gotten 1st with him since we got the new score screen. How were you able to do more damage with him than Chewie though?

That card which increases Presence duration doesn't work now as intended after the last patch. After the original duration ends, it starts to drop. So I don't recommend using it until they fix it.

I think it still drops after 10 seconds regardless, but I believe it goes at a slower rate with the card. I'll test it though to see if you're right.

I didn't pay attention to the speed so I'm looking forward to your findings.

@Whodunnit Here is my test: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AveJpgcuWkNffRqY9-Miaf29GPE

I haven't properly timed it yet as I don't currently have anything to time it with, but I will post the times soon if someone doesn't beat me to it. The first test is with all the epic cards, the second with just the extra health and no duration bonus and the last is completely without upgrades.

Thanks for the test! The speed looks the same to me although a proper timing would help. But if the speed is really the same then it makes the duration increase card useless (only the UI shows the extended duration).
I think it's a mistake from the developers, when they changed Presence in the last patch so it drops down now slowly, they forgot to count the additional duration and it always starts to drop down after 10 seconds.
EDIT: In the video both (the first two) take exactly 1 minute to drop. So I don't think there's a difference. Also you still have the extra health when the ability cooldown is over and it's available again, makes the extra duration card even more pointless even if it would work. So it doesn't matter that they increased the ability cooldown time.

I know you still have health left after the ability cooldown is over, but I was hoping with the extra duration card that it would leave me with more health, since you will still be taking damage outside of a test scenario. I am very disappointed that this card appears to do nothing though, especially since mine is epic... Sorry, but @T0TALfps could you please pass this on to the team? IMO it is a massive problem if an epic card does absolutely nothing...

Gesph · January 12, 2018 1:41PM

Vader usually gets on top quite easily. Also Yoda and Luke. ***** you talking about? Not me, I play as Palpatine always.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 12, 2018 2:45PM

Gesph wrote: »

Vader usually gets on top quite easily. Also Yoda and Luke. **** you talking about? Not me, I play as Palpatine always.

You're saying you see Luke and Yoda at the top a lot?

seth5434 · January 12, 2018 2:52PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

I've played close to 100 HvV matches this week and EVERY SINGLE ONE finished with the top player using a blaster hero or Palp. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a saber hero at the top since shortly after launch. I rarely see Luke or Yoda anywhere other than the bottom and have never seen either at the top. What have your experiences been?

In my experienc, saber heroes seem quite decent 1v1, but I guess their DPS just isn't enough to keep up with blaster heroes over an entire match. I think the score screen at the end needs to change. All it does is encourage blaster heroes, while the old screen encouraged people to play saber heroes too because in my experience, it is much easier to get longest killstreak in HvV with a saber hero, even if you don't get the most damage.

lol last night luke was top it was pretty cool

ShizzyCamaro · January 12, 2018 2:58PM

Have done it a couple times with Vader and yesterday I played Rey for the first time ever. Got 1st place with her.

I see Yoda more as a support player in HvV. He is someone who when played correctly can make the team very tanky.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 12, 2018 3:03PM

ShizzyCamaro wrote: »

Have done it a couple times with Vader and yesterday I played Rey for the first time ever. Got 1st place with her.

I see Yoda more as a support player in HvV. He is someone who when played correctly can make the team very tanky.

My problem is that Yoda gets no score for buffing his team, so there is no real incentive to support when you can just pick a character that has better DPS, as you're more likely to top the team and get the most credits that way.

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 12, 2018 3:33PM

unit900000 wrote: »

the old scoreboard is better

+1

Tallsoldier · January 12, 2018 3:42PM

Today.

ElChubaNibre · January 12, 2018 5:55PM

found the mvp Luke vid

Whodunnit · January 16, 2018 1:35PM

I know you still have health left after the ability cooldown is over, but I was hoping with the extra duration card that it would leave me with more health, since you will still be taking damage outside of a test scenario. I am very disappointed that this card appears to do nothing though, especially since mine is epic... Sorry, but @T0TALfps could you please pass this on to the team? IMO it is a massive problem if an epic card does absolutely nothing...

@MLGGrandMasterBroda It's working now, they fixed it!

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 16, 2018 1:38PM

@Whodunnit They did?!?? *wipes eyes* I thought they forgot about poor Yoda... Hopefully they fixed his other bugs secretly too!

Whodunnit · January 16, 2018 1:53PM

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

@Whodunnit They did?!?? *wipes eyes* I thought they forgot about poor Yoda... Hopefully they fixed his other bugs secretly too!

Yepp, the drop starts now after 14 seconds for me (I have the rare version which adds 4 seconds).
What other bugs did you find?

MLGGrandMasterBroda · January 16, 2018 2:01PM

Whodunnit wrote: »

MLGGrandMasterBroda wrote: »

@Whodunnit They did?!?? *wipes eyes* I thought they forgot about poor Yoda... Hopefully they fixed his other bugs secretly too!

Yepp, the drop starts now after 14 seconds for me (I have the rare version which adds 4 seconds).
What other bugs did you find?

His block didn't always work, even while he was holding his hand up and in the animation. I would often have to press the block button 2-3 times to get it to work. Unleash is also buggy with different terrain or obstacles, but this can apply to Luke's Force Push and Kylo's Pull as well. I feel like Yoda is going to be ridiculously tanky now though, as he was already very hard to kill with the cards I'm using and now that the extra 5 seconds are working for Presence it should be even harder to kill him. I will test him in a bit to see how much better he is, but he might not need a buff to his saber damage after this.

Effexx · January 16, 2018 2:19PM

I was first place with yoda 2 days ago, first time i saw that lol and it was ME !
P.S. now Finn is useless... no more good team with chewie

Indiana_Jim · January 16, 2018 3:31PM

OP: Almost every time.

Octavarius · January 16, 2018 3:48PM

Every game.

Whodunnit · January 16, 2018 5:42PM

@MLGGrandMasterBroda Where did you test Yoda? It worked for me in Arcade (I'm on PC).

EmperorKelos · January 16, 2018 5:47PM

I almost always get top as a saber hero.

UNSANE_fan75 · January 16, 2018 5:52PM

Might be due to there being a Resistance TLJ Challenge this week that requires us to defeat 10 enemy Heroes with Blaster Heroes (non-saber heroes). So I played only with Finn and Lando last night.

SSJSnoop · January 16, 2018 7:04PM

Dodging is equal and fair rn.

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