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  • OOM19
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    Saber91 wrote: »
    OOM19 wrote: »
    Anyway, I'm just going to back out of this thread right now

    You guys really don't wanna get me started on Rebels and TLJ

    Trust me

    You will regret it more then ever seeing those two shows

    no no no please share your thoughts. id like to read what you hate about em.

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    You weren't here around December I mauled this film alive
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  • The superpowered, unstoppable, invincible Rey.
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  • Saber91
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    They beat the **** out of the Prequels.

    But the eunuchs will **** about it because of Rey.

    rey was just one of many things wrong with those films.

    and i disagree, the prequels were far better than the NT. because again although they had crappy dialogue at times, and the chemistry between anakin and padme was awkward and unbelievable, they were at least original. and had nice plots.
  • Saber91
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    lerodemmy wrote: »
    The superpowered, unstoppable, invincible Rey.

    in both the game and the movies xD
  • t3hBar0n
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    lerodemmy wrote: »
    The superpowered, unstoppable, invincible Rey.

    They should have killed off finn and rose together at the end... and Rey should have defeated Kylo, kicked him out of the Sith, and taken over as the evil Mistress of the Galaxy while kylo attempts to find himself and redemption with the rebellion... that would be much more compelling than the trash they have going now.
  • Saber91 wrote: »
    lerodemmy wrote: »
    The superpowered, unstoppable, invincible Rey.

    in both the game and the movies xD

    Not as OP as Luke Skywalker. His push does waaaayyyy to much damage imo!
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  • Saber91
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    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Saber91 wrote: »
    lerodemmy wrote: »
    The superpowered, unstoppable, invincible Rey.

    in both the game and the movies xD

    Not as OP as Luke Skywalker. His push does waaaayyyy to much damage imo!

    well i wouldnt know. i never play heroes like ever. id much rather play a republic commando like in your avy. hopefully they make it into the game at some point.
  • The crux of the prequels, Anakin's fall to the dark side, was pure garbage from a writing standpoint. Whatever complaints you have about the ST, does not compare to how badly Lucas biffed that, not to mention cheapened the mythology of the force in a variety of ways. The sequel trilogy appears to actually be exploring the force and going in an interesting direction with it.
  • GenxDarchi
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    edited March 2018
    Saber91 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Saber91 wrote: »
    lerodemmy wrote: »
    The superpowered, unstoppable, invincible Rey.

    in both the game and the movies xD

    Not as OP as Luke Skywalker. His push does waaaayyyy to much damage imo!

    well i wouldnt know. i never play heroes like ever. id much rather play a republic commando like in your avy. hopefully they make it into the game at some point.

    I hope eventually, we can get a Delta Squad. Then on the last phase you could have Boss, Scorch, Sev, and Fixer playing as if they were in Republic Commando the game.
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  • Saber91
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    edited March 2018
    The crux of the prequels, Anakin's fall to the dark side, was pure garbage from a writing standpoint. Whatever complaints you have about the ST, does not compare to how badly Lucas biffed that, not to mention cheapened the mythology of the force in a variety of ways. The sequel trilogy appears to actually be exploring the force and going in an interesting direction with it.

    you mean like force dummying from across the solar system and dying afterwards? and commanding lightning strikes to destroy things as a ghost?
  • The crux of the prequels, Anakin's fall to the dark side, was pure garbage from a writing standpoint. Whatever complaints you have about the ST, does not compare to how badly Lucas biffed that, not to mention cheapened the mythology of the force in a variety of ways. The sequel trilogy appears to actually be exploring the force and going in an interesting direction with it.

    Well, I am not going to disagree with you, the prequels had awkward scenes, but better action imo. The sequel trilogy though, doesn’t seem as interesting, and not even exploring the force at all imo.
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  • Saber91
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    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Saber91 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Saber91 wrote: »
    lerodemmy wrote: »
    The superpowered, unstoppable, invincible Rey.

    in both the game and the movies xD

    Not as OP as Luke Skywalker. His push does waaaayyyy to much damage imo!

    well i wouldnt know. i never play heroes like ever. id much rather play a republic commando like in your avy. hopefully they make it into the game at some point.

    I hope eventually, we can get a Delta Squad. Then on the last phase you could have Boss, Scorch, Sev, and Fixer playing as if they were in Republic Commando the game.

    sounds too good to be true. i dont even think the devs remember RC.
  • t3hBar0n
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    The crux of the prequels, Anakin's fall to the dark side, was pure garbage from a writing standpoint. Whatever complaints you have about the ST, does not compare to how badly Lucas biffed that, not to mention cheapened the mythology of the force in a variety of ways. The sequel trilogy appears to actually be exploring the force and going in an interesting direction with it.

    I just don't even acknowledge that the prequels are even connected. To me, Vader is a complete badass who dominates the galaxy and does what he wants... while anakin is an emo maladjusted child with mommy issues.
  • Saber91 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Saber91 wrote: »
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    Saber91 wrote: »
    lerodemmy wrote: »
    The superpowered, unstoppable, invincible Rey.

    in both the game and the movies xD

    Not as OP as Luke Skywalker. His push does waaaayyyy to much damage imo!

    well i wouldnt know. i never play heroes like ever. id much rather play a republic commando like in your avy. hopefully they make it into the game at some point.

    I hope eventually, we can get a Delta Squad. Then on the last phase you could have Boss, Scorch, Sev, and Fixer playing as if they were in Republic Commando the game.

    sounds too good to be true. i dont even think the devs remember RC.

    Probably not, but It doesn’t hurt to hope that they might make it in.
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  • Saber91
    1021 posts Member
    GenxDarchi wrote: »
    The crux of the prequels, Anakin's fall to the dark side, was pure garbage from a writing standpoint. Whatever complaints you have about the ST, does not compare to how badly Lucas biffed that, not to mention cheapened the mythology of the force in a variety of ways. The sequel trilogy appears to actually be exploring the force and going in an interesting direction with it.

    Well, I am not going to disagree with you, the prequels had awkward scenes, but better action imo. The sequel trilogy though, doesn’t seem as interesting, and not even exploring the force at all imo.

    yeah the prequels had the best action scenes. im not really bent out of shape about the midichlorians thing either. if everyone and their mom could become a jedi/sith then it wouldnt be as special.
  • The fact that a jedi spent his /her's life growing up and learning in the jedi temple and going on missions with a knight or master
    but now all you have to do is close your eyes and the force is with you.
  • I mostly enjoyed TFA in spite of it being very safe.

    I dislike TLJ and is the first Star Wars film I won't buy for home viewing. It feels like a slap in the face to the fans. Poor writing, plot holes, illogical and unnecessary characters and I could go on. It was filmed very well though.
  • First of all, we can all agree on the fact that Kathleen Kennedy killed Star Wars.

    Now, as for the ST, I think its way to early to judge, mainly because its not even finished yet.The trilogy isnt even complete, yet we all jump to conclusions hating-loving it.Give it some time.

    I personally enjoy the new aesthetic that this Era brings, with the familiar looking Stormtroopers but clearly more upgraded, just like the Star Fighters.They all feel like the classic Star Wars we grew up watching, whilst having something unique.

    Thats the problem with the Trilogy.The fans dont know what they want.They see similarities between the movies, and they hate it (TFA-ANH).
    Then, they see something completely different and ORIGINAL lore-based stuff like the Force Projection Luke did, and everyone is like "whoopty doo dawg, thats ridiculous".

    I think that while I enjoy it, it definitely has a lot of missed opportunities.
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  • Let's just give jj a shot at episode 9 and after that see how overall the new trilogy looks and feels and then we can trully talk about what's wrong and what's not with it.
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  • hsf_
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    Because I haven't seen it.
  • OOM19
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    Aris1368 wrote: »
    Thats the problem with the Trilogy.The fans dont know what they want.They see similarities between the movies, and they hate it (TFA-ANH).
    Then, they see something completely different and ORIGINAL lore-based stuff like the Force Projection Luke did, and everyone is like "whoopty doo dawg, thats ridiculous".

    I know exactly what I want

    I want Knights Of The Old Republic, Anthology Movies with not a hint of the Skywalkers or Solo, stories going around the beginning of the Jedi Order where the Sith first form from the order

    Or in a perfect mirror a Sith redeems himself and becomes the first Jedi tying in perfectly with Darth Vader's redemption

    The Star Wars Universe is a vast, beautiful, perfect gold mine that has been nigh criminally neglected
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  • Aris1368 wrote: »

    I think that while I enjoy it, it definitely has a lot of missed opportunities.

    This is my sentiment, I like the films, I recognize the flaws but it doesn't make me hate them.
  • Saber91
    1021 posts Member
    edited March 2018


    I know exactly what I want

    I want Knights Of The Old Republic, Anthology Movies with not a hint of the Skywalkers or Solo, stories going around the beginning of the Jedi Order where the Sith first form from the order

    Or in a perfect mirror a Sith redeems himself and becomes the first Jedi tying in perfectly with Darth Vader's redemption

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  • Saber91
    1021 posts Member
    OOM19 wrote: »
    Aris1368 wrote: »
    Thats the problem with the Trilogy.The fans dont know what they want.They see similarities between the movies, and they hate it (TFA-ANH).
    Then, they see something completely different and ORIGINAL lore-based stuff like the Force Projection Luke did, and everyone is like "whoopty doo dawg, thats ridiculous".

    I know exactly what I want

    I want Knights Of The Old Republic, Anthology Movies with not a hint of the Skywalkers or Solo, stories going around the beginning of the Jedi Order where the Sith first form from the order

    Or in a perfect mirror a Sith redeems himself and becomes the first Jedi tying in perfectly with Darth Vader's redemption

    The Star Wars Universe is a vast, beautiful, perfect gold mine that has been nigh criminally neglected

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  • Fury4TheWin
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    edited March 2018
    I like it because it's different. I loved TFA and thought TLJ was pretty good, too. Sure they have their faults... but they are still good movies in terms of story and moviemaking 101. I hated the prequels (hated them as movies, but they all had a lot of good moments) because of the enormous missed opportunities and Lucas' priority of green screen effects and action over script writing and making a decent movie. This was the second time he ***** up, the other being the special editions of the original trilogies.
    ...Getting back on topic, yeah Rey is a little OP and the entire Canto Bright scene and the Rose character were extremely pointless... but as someone who values good character interactions and "the feels/goosebumps moments", I feel a lot more connected and relatable to these new characters than I ever did in the prequels (except Mcgregor... he was a good Obi Wan). Just seems more practical. So yeah...
  • Cad_Bane
    6252 posts Member
    OOM19 wrote: »
    Anyway, I'm just going to back out of this thread right now

    You guys really don't wanna get me started on Rebels and TLJ

    Trust me

    You will regret it more then ever seeing those two shows

    Please share..
  • They beat the **** out of the Prequels.

    But the eunuchs will **** about it because of Rey.

    That's how I feel....they're WAY better than the prequel nonsense. It's all subjective, get over it and move on with your life.
  • I forgave the prequels because they provided an immense amount of lore with a rich amount of interesting and diverse characters. The movies are bad but the characters and worlds provided a fertile ground for discussion to grow.

    TFA, despite being unoriginal also set up a lot of interesting points for lore. There was a lot of potential to grow. The characters were unfamiliar but they weren't bumbling ***** like in TLJ.

    TLJ is unforgivable for abandoning or completely destroying all the existing lore and rules. This isn't just plot holes, it's deliberate sabotage for the sake of subversion. Characters have been reduced to jokes with no depth at all. Despite how horrible Jar Jar was, at least he provided some entry to the different races on Naboo and the politics there.
  • Evazan127
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    They aren’t my favorites for a number of reasons but I still like them.
  • Saber91
    1021 posts Member
    Let's just give jj a shot at episode 9 and after that see how overall the new trilogy looks and feels and then we can trully talk about what's wrong and what's not with it.

    I mean.... There's only one movie left.
    There's nothing they can fix really. We've already seen the biggest parts of this trilogy and it's not good. Now MAYBE they can pull something out of their ***** and make a pretty good 9th film, but as it stands the first 2 movies are garbage. And it's not a trilogy without the first two movies
  • OOM19
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    Cad_Bane wrote: »
    OOM19 wrote: »
    Anyway, I'm just going to back out of this thread right now

    You guys really don't wanna get me started on Rebels and TLJ

    Trust me

    You will regret it more then ever seeing those two shows

    Please share..

    https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/91641/my-review-of-the-last-jedi-very-spoiler-heavy/p1
    https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/92081/who-here-has-any-interest-in-a-st-map-after-the-last-jedi/p1
    https://battlefront-forums.ea.com/discussion/93760/the-last-jedis-plot-holes-thread/p1

    And combine that with my various random ranting in other threads, yeah. I'm happy and peaceful right now. If you guys get me started on TLJ or good gravy I re-watch TLJ, it'll be horrible. I'm already struggling with the garbage bomb that was Rebels just throwing it's ugly garbage all over the OT throughout it's 4 Seasons, I can't do that It's essentially this as it is



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  • Everybody throws so much hate on the sequel movies, but when the episode IX comes, everyone is going to watch anyways, just like the prequels. Annoying people
  • I'll take a step back to say this my kids love it

    they love ray and kylo the movie was made for kids but i did tell them they will grow up one day
    till then let all the kids enjoy because i won't.
  • thR51V4
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    edited March 2018
    I believe I can tell you where everything went wrong with Star Wars. They took away the fans/veiwer’s ability to imagine.

    Not having to explain every detail to the audience and sticking with basic stories and characters. The universe was so much bigger then this.

    I knew TFA was in trouble when C3-PO had to point out his Red Arm.

    I am sure we’re in bigger trouble when a movie needs to be made about Han Solo.

    I sorry but Legend’s was fine the way it was.
  • Foxdie491
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    I didn't like The Force Awakens:

    Although this movie is extremly nostalgic and heart warming as an homage to the original Star Wars, it lacks creativity and personality, well directed, acted and edited but in the end it didn't brought anything new to the table.

    I liked Rogue One:

    This is what I like to call "nostalgia porn done right" even if it has all the visuals and design we already know, the characters, tone and overall structure is very differet compared to the other Star Wars movies. well acted, edited and with an incredible direction. The curious thing about Rogue One is that in my opinion enhance the experience of watching Episode IV which is already a clissic and I've never seen a prequell in any franchise do that. In that regard, IMHO is a solid addition to the Star Wars mythos just for that reson alone (plus it can be watched as a stand alone movie by a non-Star Wars fan and be enjoyable and coherent on it's own merit)

    I like The Last Jedi:

    Hear me out before killing me please... the last Jedi had huge shoes to feel, and I'm not even talking about the old Expanded universe mythos, but to the preconcived ideas for the old heroes that every single Star Wars fan had already in their minds. For all that I fantasize about an old Luke Skywalker I could've never predicted the bitter, defeated and reluctand man that Luke became in this movie. For me, this was far away from what any fan imagined about this hero, but in the end, from a hero's journy's perspective it was glorious and overall interesting.

    Kylo, Rey and Luke are completly beautiffully written in this movie. And even the weaker characters like Rose, Finn and Hux are very well acted (BOYEGA FOR THE WIN!). Even the very hated Canto Bight secuence made me feel like a child watching an indiana Jones movie for the first time.

    Hated Poe going alone against a capital ship (altough I did like his character arc, very BSG), and Hated flying Leia... it's not a perfect film, not by a long shot. But to me the positive outweight the negative by far.

    That's my reasons for liking the new movies (altough I really not need a reason, I just like them, except for Ep VII, which I don't hate or anything).

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  • I don’t.
    The first 6 have a GREAT story.
    The prequel trilogy didn’t have great writing, and relied too much on CGI, but the story was solid.
    Never in a million years would I think that Star Wars would be struggling in the storytelling department, but that’s exactly where we find ourselves today.
  • Lol I can't even see how people say TLJ was good and wrote well, I mean I'm glad people liked it I tried to I wanted to so bad. But I couldn't stoop to that level, that movie threw out everything that made Jedi Jedi and star wars star wars, and then ran every beloved character threw the mud. Like they expect me to believe that luke Skywalker the dude that seen light in vader, you mean to tell me he seen darkness in kylo and thought about killing him, no way in heck nope nodda and then they kill him in such a waste of a way like honestly the hishe version is so much better, than what rain Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy came up with.
  • Lol I can't even see how people say TLJ was good and wrote well, I mean I'm glad people liked it I tried to I wanted to so bad. But I couldn't stoop to that level, that movie threw out everything that made Jedi Jedi and star wars star wars, and then ran every beloved character threw the mud. Like they expect me to believe that luke Skywalker the dude that seen light in vader, you mean to tell me he seen darkness in kylo and thought about killing him, no way in heck nope nodda and then they kill him in such a waste of a way like honestly the hishe version is so much better, than what rain Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy came up with.

    This is a highly contentious plot point in the film and at first I thought no way Luke would try to kill Kylo... except he didn't. I don't think he was out of character at all.
    He almost slaughtered his father in anger when he threatened his sister and only stopped when the emperor interrupted... I don't understand what peoples issue is with this plot point. He didn't attack his nephew he didn't do anything but turn on his saber. He sensed that Ben would destroy everything he worked for, that Ben would kill everyone he loved and he sensed more darkness in Ben then anyone ever before. Luke is a human being, just because he beat the darkness once are we to believe he will never struggle with it again? He was overcome with fear, anger and hatred (just like when he almost killed his father) and in just a blink of an eye he turned on his saber and instantly regretted what he did.. he felt shame and horror at his actions and horrible thought.

    He didn't try to kill Ben... it was a mistake, a human mistake led by his emotions and fear. Personally I have absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    Now if we want to talk about how he left and didn't come back to fix his mistake I can understand fans being upset but I think I can debate that as well, as I have some understanding of what I believe he was going through.
  • Ppong_Man12
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    edited March 2018
    To the op, they blow imo. Everything after Lucas is fan fiction imo and Disney can’t even get that right. Maybe Rey will sing Let it Go after the last film. People mistake mediocrity for great these days. Bum writers more worried about stoical justice than making good movies. Freak the new starwars.
  • It’s hilarious - the people that grew up with OT hated the prequels. The people that grew up with the prequels hate the new trilogy. In 10 years, the people playing games like this will be huge sequel trilogy fanboys :lol:
  • I take it nobody liked Admiral M̶a̶n̶s̶p̶l̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ Holdo? Definitely one of Star Wars' more compelling characters, even more so than Jar Jar Binks and giant green milk producing eopiewhales.
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  • I didn't dislike Holdo. She was just totally pointless, like Rose.
  • It's not possible for me to take the First Order seriously at all. I'm supposed to believe the Imperial remnant fled to the Unknown Regions, and somehow managed to come back with Starkiller Base, a fleet of massive Star Destroyers, Dreadnaughts, and Snoke's 60km wide Mega Star Destroyer? LOL And with no one knowing about it?

    To be fair, no one knew about the Death Star for decades either. The galaxy is a large place and there were tons of old Empire resources/ships left over scattered throughout to rebuild upon.

    @SoggyCocoaPuffs thoughts are the closest I've seen to my own for the most part. I've enjoyed the movies and agree that many people have complained about plot points that were already explained in the movie which irks the hell out of me. I think a lot of people need to rewatch TLJ when it releases as a lot more might make sense to them if they watch/listen carefully. I certainly don't agree with all the hate and I do believe EP 9 will round everything up. If not... well THEN people can go nuts about it all they want. Trilogies these days are full of teasers and slow explanations that mostly don't cultivate until part 3.

    Otherwise I don't feel like getting into the details. I don't think I'd ever hate anything in SW but there certainly will be some things I enjoy more than others.
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  • OGPOTUS
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    I don't think it's fair for people to even compare the other trilogies, seeing how an entire movie is missing from the ST.

    Comparing TFA and TLJ to the first two installments of either trilogies seems more appropriate. Compared to Phantom Menace and AotC, I think it's leagues better than the Prequels. The third film in that trilogy is one of the only redeeming factors, and who's to say the third in this new trilogy isn't the same? Abrams has time to hear criticism about his first film, and the film of his peer. I think that will go a long way to improve the final installment.

    It might not be as good as the OT in this light, however, since you just remove RotJ, which is arguably the worst film of that saga.

    For what it's worth, I've enjoyed watching the new movies even with all their flaws. I can choose any of the SW films and pick them apart until I utterly despise them, but what's the point in that? I love the films for what they are, and none of them are close to perfect. Ridley, Driver, and Boyega have been entirely charming on screen, as well as Isaac, Gleeson, and some of the other supporting cast. The original crew did a great job, all three of them. Many of the settings are wonderful to look at, the action sequences are exciting, and there's enough novelty to keep me engaged through a screening.

    I think the movies suffer from the unreachable hype surrounding them. Star Wars has become a culture, and I doubt there's anybody that could make a movie to please all of its hundreds of millions of fans. Maybe all of the people that are now brooding in SW/Disney hate will have their expectations reigned in by the next one comes out, and hopefully they'll all be pleasantly surprised.
  • I didn't dislike Holdo. She was just totally pointless, like Rose.

    To me, Rose has a place and her character has potential to be more significant in the future. She's savy and has great heart. Holdo however made no sense to me. Ackbar should have been in her place and I think that was such a HUGE missed opportunity.
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    3. ANH and ESB
    6. TLJ
    22. AOTC
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  • HansTheBest
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    edited March 2018
    I didn't dislike Holdo. She was just totally pointless, like Rose.

    To me, Rose has a place and her character has potential to be more significant in the future. She's savy and has great heart. Holdo however made no sense to me. Ackbar should have been in her place and I think that was such a HUGE missed opportunity.

    No. Rose is an *****. She didn't accomplish anything and she actually could have annihilated the rebels if the 'mini death-star' had actually been worth all the hype that they gave it. That whole destroying things we hate line was pure bantha poodoo. If she wanted to save Finn, she should have jumped into the cannon herself. I'm not sure how giving Finn roadside trouble in the middle of a bunch of AT-M6's was supposed to end well. Luckily, due to poor editing we never had to find out the ridiculous methods that they used to escape.
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