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  • Now Rose's sister. She died in a pretty epic if ultimately pointless way.
  • I didn't dislike Holdo. She was just totally pointless, like Rose.

    To me, Rose has a place and her character has potential to be more significant in the future. She's savy and has great heart. Holdo however made no sense to me. Ackbar should have been in her place and I think that was such a HUGE missed opportunity.

    No. Rose is an ****. She didn't accomplish anything and she actually could have annihilated the rebels if the 'mini death-star' had actually been worth all the hype that they gave it. That whole destroying things we hate line was pure bantha poodoo. If she wanted to save Finn, she should have jumped into the cannon herself. I'm not sure how giving Finn roadside trouble in the middle of a bunch of AT-M6's was supposed to end well. Luckily, due to poor editing we never had to find out the ridiculous methods that they used to escape.

    They traveled pretty quickly across that open terrain pretty well, considering their condition.
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  • I think Daisy Ridley is hot, Kylo ren isn't a terrible villain so far but we will see about Episode 9. I dont care for the temper tantrums though. Rian Johnson did a number on episode 8 but I think 9 will make a good recovery with JJ Abrams back in the driver's seat.
  • I think Daisy Ridley is hot, Kylo ren isn't a terrible villain so far but we will see about Episode 9. I dont care for the temper tantrums though. Rian Johnson did a number on episode 8 but I think 9 will make a good recovery with JJ Abrams back in the driver's seat.

    I thought Kylo Ren nailed it in TLJ. I didn't like him in TFA and I hated nearly everything about TLJ except Kylo. He is a legit villain to me now. The problem is that Mary Sue came along and already beat him in TFA so there is no suspense at all about how this is gonna end up. I honestly have no idea and don't care.
  • lok
    984 posts Member
    I loved the Prequels,feel free to cry over that!........
    TFA was amazing imo until the end,and TLJ was ok but the luke thing is taking along time to grow on me.
    I think the director should not of been the director.
  • I think Admiral M̶a̶n̶s̶p̶l̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ Holdo actually survived her supposed sacrifice. And since she had no destination in hyper space jump, the female Force (Forcess/Forcette) guided her into one of Ezras space whaleworms. Ezra pulls her lodged ship outta the worm. Episode 9 will bring Rebels into the fold and MaREY sue, Sabine, and Ahsoka will slaughter the First Order while everyone else cracks jokes and have weird subplots with 0 pay off.
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  • They should speed up Episode 9 then wait a bit then reboot them all and tie them all in
    it would be hard to watch the originals but they could create a great starwars universe bigger and better and have better time lines in the movies

    yes thats how happy i am about the new movies
  • Aris1368
    371 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    I think Daisy Ridley is hot, Kylo ren isn't a terrible villain so far but we will see about Episode 9. I dont care for the temper tantrums though. Rian Johnson did a number on episode 8 but I think 9 will make a good recovery with JJ Abrams back in the driver's seat.

    I thought Kylo Ren nailed it in TLJ. I didn't like him in TFA and I hated nearly everything about TLJ except Kylo. He is a legit villain to me now. The problem is that Mary Sue came along and already beat him in TFA so there is no suspense at all about how this is gonna end up. I honestly have no idea and don't care.

    I still believe that Kylo will go Jedi and Rey will turn to the Dark side, maybe then we could see a different ending for the first time in Star Wars. (Hence they both sensed each other turning sides)

    BUT NO.It hurts because these new Star Wars movies arent supposed to be enjoyed by the "old" fans, rather bring the next generation to this saga.You can tell that they managed that, based on the merchandise they are selling (unfortunately thats what they only want).The new Star Wars is kids toys and "Force is Female" propaganda to attract people a action space opera movie shouldn't.

    I think that this Trilogy should've focused on the original concept of Star Wars without the need to attract to kids, instead they could differentiate the "feel" with the new trilogy-series.
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  • All Star Wars film throughout the ages have had mass criticism.

    Be it the open ending of ROTJ; JarJar Gate or even that the original film was laughed at pre-lauch as being far fetched fairy Tale!

    The haters will always be louder and get the air time - influencing people expectations.

    Many people just don't like change and TLJ has a lot of that. It needs to, there is only one film left and TLJ builds towards that.

    Plus the demographics are so wide - Star Wars is after all a Children's/Family film.
  • MatiPoland93
    324 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    I really liked TFA. It was the perfect start for a new trilogy for me. There was so much potential to do a lot of things after TFA, but unfortunately they choose the wrong director for The Last Jedi. I can't believe that he is such a big SW fan. Rian Johnson was like hmmm I don't like TFA. Let me change everything. Let me tell you that Snoke and Rey are no one etc.... And let me introduce you the worst Star Wars character ever Rose! FY Rian!

    Rogue One is great, Gareth Edwards is a true SW Fan, not like Rian!
  • Let's be honest
    True star wars fan's are a hard nut to crack
    They don't sell out
    All they want is a propa movie / story
    With all the law and legends and myth of the star wars galaxy
    Maybe it's just me
    but they lost the plot to make a quick story for a quick buck

    I do love star wars

    I hope they don't tarnish it with the same brush




  • bfloo
    15813 posts Member
    Let's be honest
    True star wars fan's are a hard nut to crack
    They don't sell out
    All they want is a propa movie / story
    With all the law and legends and myth of the star wars galaxy
    Maybe it's just me
    but they lost the plot to make a quick story for a quick buck

    I do love star wars

    I hope they don't tarnish it with the same brush




    The ST has just been the typical Hollywood trash reboot.
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  • Thread title - Why do you like the new trilogy?
    90% of thread - I don't, It's terrible.
    *sigh*
    You will fall, as all Jedi must.
  • OOM19
    2833 posts Member
    bfloo wrote: »
    HellYeah wrote: »
    All Star Wars film throughout the ages have had mass criticism.

    Be it the open ending of ROTJ; JarJar Gate or even that the original film was laughed at pre-lauch as being far fetched fairy Tale!

    The haters will always be louder and get the air time - influencing people expectations.

    Many people just don't like change and TLJ has a lot of that. It needs to, there is only one film left and TLJ builds towards that.

    Plus the demographics are so wide - Star Wars is after all a Children's/Family film.

    TLJ left nothing to care about in episode 9.

    There is no credible threat, we've already seen Rey smash crylo.

    The FO is more inept than the Gungan Grand Army.

    Shut up Bfloo

    The Gungan Grand Army was a legit fighting force. Jar Jar destroyed Jedi Killer Droidekas that Jedi ran from with his FEET

    And OOM-9 still beat them

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  • bfloo
    15813 posts Member
    OOM19 wrote: »
    bfloo wrote: »
    HellYeah wrote: »
    All Star Wars film throughout the ages have had mass criticism.

    Be it the open ending of ROTJ; JarJar Gate or even that the original film was laughed at pre-lauch as being far fetched fairy Tale!

    The haters will always be louder and get the air time - influencing people expectations.

    Many people just don't like change and TLJ has a lot of that. It needs to, there is only one film left and TLJ builds towards that.

    Plus the demographics are so wide - Star Wars is after all a Children's/Family film.

    TLJ left nothing to care about in episode 9.

    There is no credible threat, we've already seen Rey smash crylo.

    The FO is more inept than the Gungan Grand Army.

    Shut up Bfloo

    The Gungan Grand Army was a legit fighting force. Jar Jar destroyed Jedi Killer Droidekas that Jedi ran from with his FEET

    And OOM-9 still beat them

    So shut up about your soft Anti-OOM-9 propaganda

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  • OOM19
    2833 posts Member
    bfloo wrote: »
    OOM19 wrote: »
    bfloo wrote: »
    HellYeah wrote: »
    All Star Wars film throughout the ages have had mass criticism.

    Be it the open ending of ROTJ; JarJar Gate or even that the original film was laughed at pre-lauch as being far fetched fairy Tale!

    The haters will always be louder and get the air time - influencing people expectations.

    Many people just don't like change and TLJ has a lot of that. It needs to, there is only one film left and TLJ builds towards that.

    Plus the demographics are so wide - Star Wars is after all a Children's/Family film.

    TLJ left nothing to care about in episode 9.

    There is no credible threat, we've already seen Rey smash crylo.

    The FO is more inept than the Gungan Grand Army.

    Shut up Bfloo

    The Gungan Grand Army was a legit fighting force. Jar Jar destroyed Jedi Killer Droidekas that Jedi ran from with his FEET

    And OOM-9 still beat them

    So shut up about your soft Anti-OOM-9 propaganda

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    Okay

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    If this is conscious does that mean I know I am ROMG4 or not, is ROMG4 me? or Is it not

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  • I didn't mind TFA so much. It was a rehash of ANH and just made everything bigger but it was okay.

    TLJ I didn't like very much at all. The political narratives jumped out at me in a really obvious way. The entire premise mirrors the intention of some on the modern left: tear down the old and rebuild.

    Take Poe. He's basically the same archetype as Han. Good looking, brash, forceful, and charming. He's a very masculine character.

    From the first scene we get a lesson that these characteristics are bad and toxic. His risk taking costs lives. Then when he comes up with his plan to aid the escape, a plot that is as star wars as you can get, it fails completely. Again because cause he was being a risk taker and too aggressive. Lesson learned is don't be like this.

    Rey on the other hand is like a goddess. When learning to handle to force Luke is blown away when she accesses the dark side. But notice she's able to control it no problem. All the hate and aggression isn't a problem for Rey. She accepts it as part of the force and is basically immune. Unlike Luke who had to struggle with it. That's because the dark side is basically masculinity in this movie.

    Also notice how all the protagonists are female and they serve as confident voices while the men are all messed up. When Finn visits the casino he thinks it's great but then Rose explains why capitalism is really bad and sets him straight. Silly risk taking Finn.

    Then there is also the issue with abandoning the simple good versus evil narrative that has been present in stories literally for thousands of years. Like in the scene where the stuttering thief, forgot his name, explains to Finn that good and evil isn't clear cut. It doesn't exist. The world is shades of gray. Which is true however we don't need that in a star wars movie. Star wars should be black and white with chances for redemption. It should be drawing on the same cultural narratives that have been with us for so long.

    I could go on but I think you get the idea. If you know much about modern left wing politics you'll know these are the narratives you find there. Now maybe that is very star wars itself, the first movies did have a self saving princess, and maybe I'm just getting too old. Either way it turned me off the movie and I expect the next will be even worse.
  • Hmmm lets see, what made my like the new trilogy? ...... oh yeah nothing did, in fact I downright thought "wow what a waste of money". It's kind of sad that I didn't enjoy TFA and thus went into TLJ with very low expectations yet still I managed to come out disappointed. I'm not even mad, I'm impressed that it managed to underwhelm me so much.

    It saddens me further still that TLJ has managed to leave me with not even a sliver of interest in seeing what Episode 9 brings. The bad guys are entirely incompetent to cringe worthy levels, the good guys aren't at all compelling and now consist of something like a couple dozen people if that in what feels like a very empty universe, it seems like they're just turning the force into something anyone can use if they will it hard enough which is pretty dull, a lot of what the previous movies set up has been knocked down and replaced with nothing in its stead other than a poor rehash of much the same thing.

    But hey at least some people enjoy it I suppose.
  • Lol I can't even see how people say TLJ was good and wrote well, I mean I'm glad people liked it I tried to I wanted to so bad. But I couldn't stoop to that level, that movie threw out everything that made Jedi Jedi and star wars star wars, and then ran every beloved character threw the mud. Like they expect me to believe that luke Skywalker the dude that seen light in vader, you mean to tell me he seen darkness in kylo and thought about killing him, no way in heck nope nodda and then they kill him in such a waste of a way like honestly the hishe version is so much better, than what rain Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy came up with.

    This is a highly contentious plot point in the film and at first I thought no way Luke would try to kill Kylo... except he didn't. I don't think he was out of character at all.
    He almost slaughtered his father in anger when he threatened his sister and only stopped when the emperor interrupted... I don't understand what peoples issue is with this plot point. He didn't attack his nephew he didn't do anything but turn on his saber. He sensed that Ben would destroy everything he worked for, that Ben would kill everyone he loved and he sensed more darkness in Ben then anyone ever before. Luke is a human being, just because he beat the darkness once are we to believe he will never struggle with it again? He was overcome with fear, anger and hatred (just like when he almost killed his father) and in just a blink of an eye he turned on his saber and instantly regretted what he did.. he felt shame and horror at his actions and horrible thought.

    He didn't try to kill Ben... it was a mistake, a human mistake led by his emotions and fear. Personally I have absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    Now if we want to talk about how he left and didn't come back to fix his mistake I can understand fans being upset but I think I can debate that as well, as I have some understanding of what I believe he was going through.

    Ehh but he did try in a way to kill him at first he tells rey he didn't but it later reveals he was going to kill him, and that's not luke. Not to mention him cutting himself off from the force and leaving to never return then why make a map and really leave to never come back and help han/leia/chewie your family and friends and the galaxy that you did everything to save, I'm sorry but that's not my luke skywalker.
  • Cause they have schiff for brains ...?
  • llboogiell wrote: »
    It’s hilarious - the people that grew up with OT hated the prequels. The people that grew up with the prequels hate the new trilogy. In 10 years, the people playing games like this will be huge sequel trilogy fanboys :lol:

    This is probably the most accurate statement in this thread. I know there will be a few people who don't fit this but it is essentially true.

    I'm old enough to have seen the original movie about 12 times in the theaters back in 1977. For me, the franchise took its downturn with ROTJ, when Lucas took a human-centric universe and went alien-crazy in order to sell toys. The remasters were another step in the wrong direction, adding emphasis and scale where it did not belong. For example, Tatooine was meant to be as back-water as it comes. Mos Eisley was a tiny settlement on the most indignificant of planets. The remasters turned ME into a major spaceport... on a still useless planet - and suddenly Greedo is shooting first.

    The prequels were a major let-down, with irrational plot points that essentially further eroded the mythos set up in the Episodes 4 and 5. Now not only is Mos Eisley a major spaceport on an insignificant planet, but we get Pod-racing going on here as well - which might have been fine as a sort of back-woods racetrack approach, but instead we get the grand scale of it. We had absurd scenarios portrayed clearly visualized for video game integration (pod-races, droid factory, speeder chase through Coruscant, lava on Mustafar, etc.) - you watch these things and feel the joystick/keypad control moves. We are given Jar-Jar. We are given Anakin building C-3PO?! We are given Ben spending years with R2-D2 but somehow not remembering owning a droid. Chewbacca can't just have been a smuggler - let's give him backstory as a Wookie General before somehow falling into obscurity with Han Solo. So important! Nobody can be average.


    So, yeah, it is refreshing that Rey might actually be a force-sensitive nobody. Maybe we can get back storylines like the border farmboy who suddenly is thrust into an epic galactic conflict and can make a difference - because ultimately we as viewers (especially the 12-15 year old viewers) can relate to that bored farmboy in our own lives, and the dream that we can make an impact. That was the spirit of Star Wars before commercialism overtook Lucas' vision.
  • B_O_S_S_K wrote: »
    llboogiell wrote: »
    It’s hilarious - the people that grew up with OT hated the prequels. The people that grew up with the prequels hate the new trilogy. In 10 years, the people playing games like this will be huge sequel trilogy fanboys :lol:

    This is probably the most accurate statement in this thread. I know there will be a few people who don't fit this but it is essentially true.

    I'm old enough to have seen the original movie about 12 times in the theaters back in 1977. For me, the franchise took its downturn with ROTJ, when Lucas took a human-centric universe and went alien-crazy in order to sell toys. The remasters were another step in the wrong direction, adding emphasis and scale where it did not belong. For example, Tatooine was meant to be as back-water as it comes. Mos Eisley was a tiny settlement on the most indignificant of planets. The remasters turned ME into a major spaceport... on a still useless planet - and suddenly Greedo is shooting first.

    The prequels were a major let-down, with irrational plot points that essentially further eroded the mythos set up in the Episodes 4 and 5. Now not only is Mos Eisley a major spaceport on an insignificant planet, but we get Pod-racing going on here as well - which might have been fine as a sort of back-woods racetrack approach, but instead we get the grand scale of it. We had absurd scenarios portrayed clearly visualized for video game integration (pod-races, droid factory, speeder chase through Coruscant, lava on Mustafar, etc.) - you watch these things and feel the joystick/keypad control moves. We are given Jar-Jar. We are given Anakin building C-3PO?! We are given Ben spending years with R2-D2 but somehow not remembering owning a droid. Chewbacca can't just have been a smuggler - let's give him backstory as a Wookie General before somehow falling into obscurity with Han Solo. So important! Nobody can be average.


    So, yeah, it is refreshing that Rey might actually be a force-sensitive nobody. Maybe we can get back storylines like the border farmboy who suddenly is thrust into an epic galactic conflict and can make a difference - because ultimately we as viewers (especially the 12-15 year old viewers) can relate to that bored farmboy in our own lives, and the dream that we can make an impact. That was the spirit of Star Wars before commercialism overtook Lucas' vision.

    Mos Eisley was never in The Phantom Menace.

    The name of the place is Mos Espa.



  • I think there is a good explanation in the movies why Rey was able to defeat Kylo in TFA and be on par with him in TLJ as well without jedi training.

    When darkness rises, light rises aswell to counter it and vice versa. Both Snoke and Luke say this.There must always be a balance in the force.

    So basically when Kylo started to become strong so was Rey to counter the darkness. Rey had some previous training with melee weapons and Kylo was kinda out of balance when he was defeated the first time.

    But in The Last Jedi we see that both now are equal in strength when they were both force pulling Rey's lightsaber. The light side of the force awoke in Rey because the dark side awoke in Kylo. It's the eternal battle between light and dark.

    This pretty much explains why Rey is able to be on par with Kylo. But then rises the issue why Luke wasn't already strong without jedi training in the original trilogy. I think that Luke wasn't the opposite of Darth Vader like Rey is to Kylo. Luke wasn't the opposing light side of the force to counter Vader's dark side. It was Vader against Anakin. Vader was redeemed at the end. He was the balance all along just like the prophecy predicted.

    This Is the concept of the force and I think the new trilogy portrays this in a good way and that's what I like about it.

    Buuut there are things that I don't really like especially with the Last Jedi. The forced dumb humor, Rose character, Leia flying through space, the pointless main plot which is basically chasing though space for 2 and a half hours, Canto casino scene with the horses...

    Let's just see how JJ will end the trilogy and then we can discuss this more in detail :)
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  • quenaelin
    1060 posts Member
    New trilogy is better than prequels I-III, but not very much. I don't like how they killed Han and Luke and treated them like too old and senile. Han Solo doesn't remember anymore anything about his ship he is like senile old man who even can't remember his name. Rey is overpowering Mary Sue character who makes everything right and Finns seriousness is overcoming, young actors have this problem to be too serious about them selves these days, they can't relax and show their charisma at all, everything is made like forced to be good, without soul, it was exactly same thing in prequels I-III. I hope Han Solo story will be better.
  • Star Wars is great, so enjoying new movies is a no-brainer. They're fun to watch and ANY reference to the OT makes me smile.
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  • Iliya
    109 posts Member
    Saber91 wrote: »
    im not here to chastise you. im not here to say youre wrong. we all have opinions.

    BUT

    i am genuinely curious why those of you who like the new trilogy disney star wars movies like them.

    in my opinion theyre blatant cash grabs with horrible character development/interaction/and plot. they ruined luke skywalkers character. have an obvious SJW theme going on. the fact that rey doesnt have any relation to anyone who matters is ridiculous and a let down. the fact that han solo and leia managed to screw up their force sensitive son so bad that he turned sith. the fact that han solo died in the crappiest dramatic way possible (he should have gone out in a blaze of glory in the millenium falcon)..... need i go on? theres so many more things wrong with these films.

    i just dont understand how anyone can actually enjoy these films and call them worthy of the Star Wars license.

    I think people just happy they got a Star Wars movie after Years. For most expectations were low, they just wanted to Star Wars again.

    However as more movies are being mass produced by Disney people are leaving more and being bothered by terrible writing. For example:

    Force Awakens had far better reviews and Sold Tickets twice the times of the Last Jedi. This is despite the fact that Force Awakens was pretty much as trash as Last Jedi if not worse.

    However as Last Jedi came people already had their crave for Star Wars and wanted a good movie. This is were they started to realize the rushed and unorganized writing and got annoyed by it.
  • cosworth99
    657 posts Member
    edited March 2018
    The fact that a jedi spent his /her's life growing up and learning in the jedi temple and going on missions with a knight or master
    but now all you have to do is close your eyes and the force is with you.

    I think the parallels are that Rey and Luke grew up in isolation and that personality type and environment makes it easier to be one with the force.

    If you have the Force and you grow up on the downtown east side, yeah, you aren't going to be virtuous.
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  • I didn't dislike Holdo. She was just totally pointless, like Rose.

    To me, Rose has a place and her character has potential to be more significant in the future. She's savy and has great heart. Holdo however made no sense to me. Ackbar should have been in her place and I think that was such a HUGE missed opportunity.

    But Ackbar was male. We need tall strong female roles. Ackbar would have been the perfect choice.

    Scene: Ackbar turns the ship towards the enemy
    Line: "Prepare for my trap, darkness will fall."
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  • DarthJ
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    I think there is a good explanation in the movies why Rey was able to defeat Kylo in TFA and be on par with him in TLJ as well without jedi training.

    When darkness rises, light rises aswell to counter it and vice versa. Both Snoke and Luke say this.There must always be a balance in the force.

    So basically when Kylo started to become strong so was Rey to counter the darkness. Rey had some previous training with melee weapons and Kylo was kinda out of balance when he was defeated the first time.

    But in The Last Jedi we see that both now are equal in strength when they were both force pulling Rey's lightsaber. The light side of the force awoke in Rey because the dark side awoke in Kylo. It's the eternal battle between light and dark.

    This pretty much explains why Rey is able to be on par with Kylo. But then rises the issue why Luke wasn't already strong without jedi training in the original trilogy. I think that Luke wasn't the opposite of Darth Vader like Rey is to Kylo. Luke wasn't the opposing light side of the force to counter Vader's dark side. It was Vader against Anakin. Vader was redeemed at the end. He was the balance all along just like the prophecy predicted.

    This Is the concept of the force and I think the new trilogy portrays this in a good way and that's what I like about it.

    Buuut there are things that I don't really like especially with the Last Jedi. The forced dumb humor, Rose character, Leia flying through space, the pointless main plot which is basically chasing though space for 2 and a half hours, Canto casino scene with the horses...

    Let's just see how JJ will end the trilogy and then we can discuss this more in detail :)

    I think its a terrible explanation. If thats the case, why did Luke need the training he received - surely he should have been on a par with Vader and Emperor from the off?

    Or the prequels - I understand that the Jedi Order was around at this point obviously and well outnumbered the Sith. But Anakin, as the chosen one, recieved years of training on Coruscant, but was still initially defeated by Dooku. How come he wasnt instantly as powerful as Sidious, or even Dooku or Maul?

    But now suddenly the force brings balance on its own and makes someone equally as powerful as their opposite without training? It just brings into question why it never happened in the first place.
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  • They have completely emasculated the Star Wars franchise. As a result the new films are nothing more than whiny hot flashes that 1 inch deep and a mile wide. I just don't see them having near the impact of the OT.

  • Evazan127
    8105 posts Member
    I didn't dislike Holdo. She was just totally pointless, like Rose.

    To me, Rose has a place and her character has potential to be more significant in the future. She's savy and has great heart. Holdo however made no sense to me. Ackbar should have been in her place and I think that was such a HUGE missed opportunity.
    I agree
    cosworth99 wrote: »
    Scene: Ackbar turns the ship towards the enemy
    Line: "Prepare for my trap, darkness will fall."
    Yes!!
  • bfloo wrote: »
    Let's be honest
    True star wars fan's are a hard nut to crack
    They don't sell out
    All they want is a propa movie / story
    With all the law and legends and myth of the star wars galaxy
    Maybe it's just me
    but they lost the plot to make a quick story for a quick buck

    I do love star wars

    I hope they don't tarnish it with the same brush




    The ST has just been the typical Hollywood trash reboot.

    Exactly, without the starwars stamp they’re a total ***** imo, forgettable movies with no rewatch value. EmoRen as the main villain, lmao, and to think, people talked about a whiny Anakin lol. SuperRey has already smoked GothcEmo in every fight so what’s left? I think everyone’s pulling for EmoRen at this point. They’re just bad movies imo.
  • alunguy
    582 posts Member
    I think we all know what the best Star Wars movie is and maybe the best movie ever made.




  • greedo1980 wrote: »

    Mos Eisley was never in The Phantom Menace.

    The name of the place is Mos Espa.



    I could have written that more clearly. I was more referencing Tatooine's place in the SW universe.

    I'm sorry that all you got out of my post was an opportunity to try to nit-pick.
  • Personally, I do not like the Sequel Trilogy, still seems like a failing, high budget fan film.
    Basically it doesn’t feel like Star Wars to me
  • All that disgust about Jar Jar moved to Ep 8.
    As with Rogue One and Ep 7, the kids and i watched all the movies in order chronologically and then watched Ep 8. Unlike Ep 7 and Rogue One where the kids wanted to go watch it again and make sure we get the dvd first day and watch it again, the kids didn't even want to watch Ep 8 again. My daughter asked what happened to Luke and my son just said the movie was stupid.
    It's a Star Wars movie - that is the nicest thing i can say about Ep 8.
  • gbm
    367 posts Member
    t3hBar0n wrote: »
    The crux of the prequels, Anakin's fall to the dark side, was pure garbage from a writing standpoint. Whatever complaints you have about the ST, does not compare to how badly Lucas biffed that, not to mention cheapened the mythology of the force in a variety of ways. The sequel trilogy appears to actually be exploring the force and going in an interesting direction with it.

    I just don't even acknowledge that the prequels are even connected. To me, Vader is a complete badass who dominates the galaxy and does what he wants... while anakin is an emo maladjusted child with mommy issues.


    Well, one has everything to do with the other; and was a necessary portrayal.
  • JMaster
    2247 posts Member
    Oh, this thread...
    "Let the HATE flow through you..."
    "I felt there was a large amount of human chauvinism... also I felt very bad that at the end the Wookie didn't get a medal also... oh, all the people got medals but the Wookie who had been in there fighting all the time, didn't get any medal, and I thought that was an example of Anti-Wookie discrimination." - Carl Sagan on the subject of Star Wars
    He knew.
  • I have a theory that Vice Admiral Holdo's synthetic wig actually survived the explosion and that Maz will pass it on in the next trilogy.
  • I have a theory that Vice Admiral Holdo's synthetic wig actually survived the explosion and that Maz will pass it on in the next trilogy.

    She seems to magically recieve important plot devices. I could see this
  • the fact you use the far right wing term SJW, i'm not going to dignify you with a reasoned response.....no matter what i say it wont be white Anglo-saxin male enough for you lol
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